when to flush w/ organics?

[mixin]

i have heard there is no need to flush with organic growing? is this true?

i have some nyc diesel on day 41 and i want to make sure i finish them off right. i have been giving them moderate feeds of liquid karma, botanicare sweet / bloom, voodoo juice, hygrozyme, and for the first time tonight i watered them with just voodoo juice, molassas and liquid karma. they say that the organisms in voodoo juice need food to eat and molassas should do just the trick to help them and the plants thicken up.

anyone have any advice on helping me get these girls to flower the best they can? any advice will be appreciated!!!

 

[sophisto]

There seems to be two common theories when it comes to flushing...

1. Flush

2. Dont Flush

I see the points of both for these reasons,

If dry fertilizers are mixed into the soil as a primary food source it is pointless to flush as any residual ferts in the soil will most likely never flush out..

If liquid fertilizers are used ( organics too) I see how flushing could be good.... It is easy to wash away liquid with liquid.....

You can never wash away the microherd that are cycling these nutrients in your soil though.....Here lies the great debate.....

Personally I do not flush, I water pretty much every other time at least with straight water and have no problems.. I define a flush with saturating the medium with water equalling at least 2 times the volume of the pot size. (Example 3 gallon pot, 6 gallons water )

To each their own....Try it out and see if you see a difference.....

Others will chime in on this one for sure...... You can also do a search as this is one of those topics that has been talked about numerous times.....

 

[C21H30O2]

i used all organics in my summer grow and never flushed... the bud was amazing burned clean and tasty even without a cure. All my friends raved. It was better burning and tasting that must med stuff i buy at the clubs and the ash was white and light like snow.

 

[BurnOne]

Bullpussy! There is no need to flush organics.

 

[Deviant420]

Bullpussy! There is no need to flush organics.

Lol and concurrence.

 

[CTSV]

Hell, I don't even have drain holes in my buckets.

 

[jaykush]

flushing, im too lazy for that shit. let the plant/soil do all the work.

 

[Microbeman]

I don't know what's in liquid karma, voodoo juice and all that crap, nor do I know why people waste their money on it BUT if you are growing organically there should be no need to flush.

In true organic growing you are providing food and organic matter to the microorganisms in the soil which in turn cycle nutrients to the plants. A lot of these organisms like the soil just sooo... Not too wet and not too dry. If you start adding copious amounts of water you may end up increasing your ciliate population which will happily and rapidly eat every microbe in sight.

 

[minds_I]

flushing, im too lazy for that shit. let the plant/soil do all the work.

Hello all,

It occurs to me tht if at the end of the plants lifecycle, the nutrient uptake would be minimal as a function of dying anyway.

If the notion is to restrict or remove or otherswise reduce nutrient uptake (N I presume), one would have to kill the microkiddies (wage full-scale thermonuclear war, dead burnt bodies everywhere, but the losses are acceptable) to stop the cycle right?

I do not flush...I am too lazy for that shit too

minds_I

 

[killa-bud]

are you guys talking about flushing,as in using alot of water too flush the pot out in one go...or flushing as in not feeding them anymore?

 

[mixin]

i would assume flushing as in with two weeks left start watering with just ph'd water and thats it

 

[lokes]

As there will never be a direct answer on this, as everyone has a preference I found a happy medium. Flush with water and a sweet leaf or carbo load supplement, just to provide the plant with a last burst of energy to fill out the buds but not change the flavor in anyway.
...My two cents.

 

[Muleskinner]

Never flushed with organics! No need. I do find that I don't have to feed much at all the last few weeks of flowering, the nutes have usually built up in the soil by then.

But there is no need to flush. Flushing is done to eliminate the chemical salts in chemie nutes, the salts just don't exist in organic nutes.

 

[tejashidrow]

Actully, the salts DO form in organics... For THAT is what the plant uses to uptake nutreiants.
The diff between so call "chem" salts to organics salts is that the "chem" salts are avialible at once for the plant to use, while the "organic" salts need to GROW in ones medium from benificail bacteria and other goodies in the soil.
They are the SAME salts, just diffent ways of getting there.
As far as flushing "chem" ferts, thats because peeps like to use the most fetilizer that they can push on a plant.. as high ppms as possible, even though the plant can only use soo much....
Me and i am sure others have found that there is no need to flush with a PROPER chem nute squeduale. I have smoked GH flora grown budz not flushed that had NO chem taste or afterburn, and taste to rival the best organic....
All a flush does is MAKE the plant use its stored nutriants.....
Merry Christmas ALL !!!! pax

 

[lokes]

As there will never be a direct answer on this, as everyone has a preference

Told yah, there'd never be a direct answer cause everyone has their preference. ROFL

There is no right answer, do what yah do.

 

[Smurf]

flushing is unnecessary work, but the truth be said I'm lazy too.

think how much water you'd go thru if you decided to flush an outdoor organic garden in terra firma,, who does this?

 

[jaykush]

think how much water you'd go thru if you decided to flush an outdoor organic garden in terra firma,, who does this?

exactly! and for those re using there soil specially with long term amendments, its even more pointless.

 

[C21H30O2]

has anyone considered killing off the microherd in the final days of flower to create an effect in the finished bud. I'm thinking that you may get the same benefit as someone who cuts out the nutrients the last 10 days of a chem grow. Not a flush to get rid of chem build up but cleaner smoother burning bud because there is less nitrogen and other nutrients in the plant matter.

 

[Microbeman]

has anyone considered killing off the microherd

Yikes! Please see my post in the Teas Vs Soil thread.

 

[Smurf]

If buds have been cured properly there shouldn't be any taste of harsh plant matter.