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jrosek
Looking very tasty bro!
How's that sweet tooth? Heard some great things about her...
How's that sweet tooth? Heard some great things about her...
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AdmiralRed
The Sweet Tooth is all it is made out to be. Candy sweet when kicked up with a sweetner. Rocking flavor and big yields with a definite indica kick with sativa overtones. It can turn out the lights at the end of the day if you need it, being somewhat functional during the day. I got this as a cut, finishes at about 8-9 weeks. I have let them go 8 weeks in the past...this time they will go to 9 weeks.
Bulénath
Member
THC,
Those are fucking sweeeeet looking buds my friend! Your garden is fucking amazing!!
Next weekend (in 7 days) I will begin building the floor, and finnaly setting up my cabinets!
I gota question for you guys...
If your A/C-reflector's glass shields are cool to the touch, how close can they get to the plants before you get bleaching? Not burning from heat, but bleaching from too intense light?
Those are fucking sweeeeet looking buds my friend! Your garden is fucking amazing!!
Next weekend (in 7 days) I will begin building the floor, and finnaly setting up my cabinets!
I gota question for you guys...
If your A/C-reflector's glass shields are cool to the touch, how close can they get to the plants before you get bleaching? Not burning from heat, but bleaching from too intense light?
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jrosek
Some random rainy sunday porn to cheer us up...........
Bulénath
Member
Nice pix! So much inspiration..
I am constructing the floor for my fourth & fifth cabinets, the 1200w cabs.
fucking 70 x 2-1/8" holes to drill, sand smooth and paint white.
Here is a promiose to all of you, here at the 600HPS club.
I will build the nicest, most well constructed 1200W cabinets ever built.
I am taking the precise perfection of my best 150w cabinet and turning it into a giant stealth cabinet with a 3.5' x 7' foot-print.
They are costing me about $3k each and will take about 3 months to build.
They will be perfect, and it will blow your fucking mind.
In the mean time, here is the strain that I will be growing in my 1200W cabinets,
day of harvest, day 60, under my 150hps,
the same strain in my Sig:
I am constructing the floor for my fourth & fifth cabinets, the 1200w cabs.
fucking 70 x 2-1/8" holes to drill, sand smooth and paint white.
Here is a promiose to all of you, here at the 600HPS club.
I will build the nicest, most well constructed 1200W cabinets ever built.
I am taking the precise perfection of my best 150w cabinet and turning it into a giant stealth cabinet with a 3.5' x 7' foot-print.
They are costing me about $3k each and will take about 3 months to build.
They will be perfect, and it will blow your fucking mind.
In the mean time, here is the strain that I will be growing in my 1200W cabinets,
day of harvest, day 60, under my 150hps,
the same strain in my Sig:
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jrosek
TTT.............
what is the average yield from a 600?
Bulénath
Member
Id say the better of the growers are hitting 1GPW per 60 days flower.
Maybe the best are hitting 1.125GPW to 1.25GPW, but that is pretty rare indeed...
You dont see too many people reaching that golden standard with anything less than 400HPS. But occasionally it does happen....
Id say, an average novice grower with limited knowledge and experience should be able to pull 0.5GPW per 60 days, as long as you follow the basic rules...
For my new cabinets in construction, I will not be satisfied, and I will not settle for anything less than 1gpw per 60 days. Actually I am shooting for 3LBs per Month, per 1200 watts of bulb.
Maybe the best are hitting 1.125GPW to 1.25GPW, but that is pretty rare indeed...
You dont see too many people reaching that golden standard with anything less than 400HPS. But occasionally it does happen....
Id say, an average novice grower with limited knowledge and experience should be able to pull 0.5GPW per 60 days, as long as you follow the basic rules...
For my new cabinets in construction, I will not be satisfied, and I will not settle for anything less than 1gpw per 60 days. Actually I am shooting for 3LBs per Month, per 1200 watts of bulb.
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jrosek
Bro, Now your talken!!! Great advise as well, Peace, jroBulénath said:
Bulénath
Member
rafe said:
Unlike trimming fan leaves for cloning, when you trim fan leaves on flowering plant it is for a completely different reason.
When you trim a clone's fan leaves, it is to prevent transpiration of water through the fans leaves, becasue the clone does not yet have roots to uptake adequate water and nutrients to produce more vegetative growth.
Nor do they yet have the potential to replace all the water loss caused by said excessive foliage.
When you trim a Flowering Plants Fan leaves, it is to remove any vegetative growth that may be blocking main colas and buds-spots from direct light, allowing the flowers to develop to thier full potential. It has noting to do with preventing water loss through the leaves.
However, I do not suggest completely removing fan leaves.
Most people tend to grosly underestimate the importance of fan leaves. They are the "power houses" of the plant, where majoirty of Photosynthesis takes place, converting the nutrients and water by using sunlight and co2 to produce food that the plant can use, then redistribute it from the leaf to various other parts of the plant's body.
I do suggest that before you go around trimming or removing fan leaves, try really hard to twist tie them ender a branch, or if you are scrogging, tie them under the screen.
Even fan leaves that are half dead still hold energy reserves!! Although the plant is slowly letting the leaf go, it is still sucking out all that enerrgy provided within that leaf, and re-distributing it amongst other parts.
Also, when a plant feels it neccessary to loose a leaf, it begins to send special cells to that area, cells that will be 100% ready to form a leaf scar over the spot that the leaf fell off. Basically, it is like a human's ability to coalgulate thier blood into scabs...But unlike humans, the plant will sence the loosing of it's leaf waaaay before it happens. So when it does fall off, the plant already has it's immunity and healing defenses collected in that area...
On the other hand, when you forcefully cut a fan leaf off, the plant's natural defenses are left unguarded, and the plant is forced to hurry up and redivert some of it's energy into the affected area....
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jrosek
exactly.
Pompey_Monkey
Member
Bulénath said:
Well Said!
Bulénath: even 0.5g/w per 60 days is an impressive looking grow (to my eyes at least!). Here is my last effort - about 350g of primo in about 70 days under a 600w for the last 4 weeks or so (400w before that):
I might've got to about .6 - .65 g/w if I hadn't got the dreaded botyritis and chopped about 10 days early...
next time, next time LOL!
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Bulénath
Member
Thanks!
I think the reason why 600HPS growers cannot bump much over 0.6-0.7GPW is because: These grows tend to be so big that many fundamental, basic, and neccessary intricities usually found in micro-grows, are not applied to these larger grows. Such aspects as perfectly symentrical aero dynamics of the intake and exhaust, perfectly symetrical floor print and light distribution, the reflectivity of each and every surface found within the cabinet, The smoothness and flatness of said surfaces, including the pots which should be reflective aswell!
On the contrary, most 600HPS+ growers do not put much time and thought into some of these most important aspects. Rather, they rely soley on the muscle power provided by 600w+ lamps, and nothing more.
I think the reason why 600HPS growers cannot bump much over 0.6-0.7GPW is because: These grows tend to be so big that many fundamental, basic, and neccessary intricities usually found in micro-grows, are not applied to these larger grows. Such aspects as perfectly symentrical aero dynamics of the intake and exhaust, perfectly symetrical floor print and light distribution, the reflectivity of each and every surface found within the cabinet, The smoothness and flatness of said surfaces, including the pots which should be reflective aswell!
On the contrary, most 600HPS+ growers do not put much time and thought into some of these most important aspects. Rather, they rely soley on the muscle power provided by 600w+ lamps, and nothing more.
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Pompey_Monkey
Member
Too right! - the muscle power of the 600w does indeed suit me well:
I have restricted access to my grow due to security reasons;
Again, for the security reasons, I am located in the roof space, so less than total environmental control is possible:
I do not have much time to spend with the ladies due to my job (it's true - even "professional" workers indulge
).
Given those constraints, the 600 makes it relatively easy to produce good strong dense buds - jus' what I'm after!
Hehe.
I have restricted access to my grow due to security reasons;
Again, for the security reasons, I am located in the roof space, so less than total environmental control is possible:
I do not have much time to spend with the ladies due to my job (it's true - even "professional" workers indulge
).Given those constraints, the 600 makes it relatively easy to produce good strong dense buds - jus' what I'm after!
Hehe.
Bulénath
Member
You know one of the most inspiring grows was BigFatJay's SSScrog 400HPS back on O.G. He was hitting 1.125PGW consistantly...
Even if you have to spend an extra $1-2K to make the grow enviroment perfect the pay off is worth the investment.
Thats why I am copying his perfectly symetrical floor print, but going 1200w per cahmber.
Still don't know if I will end up scrogging eventually...It's easier to wing it day to day based on how the plants develop in thier unique, new enviroment.
So there is still one question that hasn't been answered...
How close can you get your 600's to the Colas before you see light bleaching? Not heat-stress related symptoms, but actual bleaching form too intense light?
For instance, if your 600W lamp is in an air-cooled-reflector or cool-tube whos glass shield remains cool to the touch, how close can you get the glass shield before it causes bleaching on the Cola's tips..?
Although it seems like most growers keep thier shields about 10-12" from the cola's tips, I can't help to think there are those who push the envelope...That's is what I am asking for, the closest any grower can get thier shields to the cola's tips before it bleaches, not browns...
Even if you have to spend an extra $1-2K to make the grow enviroment perfect the pay off is worth the investment.
Thats why I am copying his perfectly symetrical floor print, but going 1200w per cahmber.
Still don't know if I will end up scrogging eventually...It's easier to wing it day to day based on how the plants develop in thier unique, new enviroment.
So there is still one question that hasn't been answered...
How close can you get your 600's to the Colas before you see light bleaching? Not heat-stress related symptoms, but actual bleaching form too intense light?
For instance, if your 600W lamp is in an air-cooled-reflector or cool-tube whos glass shield remains cool to the touch, how close can you get the glass shield before it causes bleaching on the Cola's tips..?
Although it seems like most growers keep thier shields about 10-12" from the cola's tips, I can't help to think there are those who push the envelope...That's is what I am asking for, the closest any grower can get thier shields to the cola's tips before it bleaches, not browns...
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Joe Hawkins
Active member
Bulénath said:
Depends on your Definitions really, a 600watt grow is Micro to many.
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