Doubles Anyone?

[DontBanMe]

Heres what came to me one day about a month ago when i was transplanting clones from the little cups into there bigger pots that they finish vegging and flowering in....why not put 2 in 1 pot,... then pull them down once so you get a main top and shoots that are almost just as big as the main tops.

Now i was always told never to put 2 plants in the same pot....well ive seen people put 2 plants in a BIG pots and have no probs but what if you could put 2 plants in the smaller pots i use and have the plants grow out flawlessly.

So far. So good....they even have surpassed some of the plants that have there own pot.

Now it comes down to flower...if each of those plants produce 75% of what they would have in there own pot i would be producing 50% more in the ame amount of space, soil, light, nutes ect.

So that means if it flowers good ill be Doubleing everything and instead of coming out with anywhere from 20-25 ounces i could hit 30-35 ounces.....using HALF the amount of resources....Soil, nutes, ect.

Here are the pics of them....They are going into flowering tonight!!! I cant wait to see the results.







Any comments welcome, but trust me ive heard all the "bad" things of doing such a thing lol.....

Strain: Mandalas Sadhu
Vegged for approx 1 month.
55-65 Day Flowering Pheno
Produces thick dense crystaly sticky ass nugs.
Not to Much of a smell to it.
And a plant this size going into flower on its own (not doubled like this) will produce 2+ ounces dry weight.
This is the info i can give to you guys about it so we can watch it go and see what happens....
Im excited to see what happens, because if they bud out as if they were in there own pot that means i would be doubleing my yeild with half the amount of soil, space, nutes, ect.


-Keep it Mandala

 

[DontBanMe]

Thanks for the info, ya i dont gotta worry about males because they are all clones from my Mandala Sadhu mother....
Ya they might fight over nutes and space but i havent liked doubled the amount of Nutes i give them, i give them the same exact PPM i give all my others in single pots...and my theory is if the plant has enough of what it needs to grow nice and healthy doubleing up in such a small pot like mine should never be a problem.
I just do the same thing, keep the PH of the nute solution where it needs to be, feed it the same, and use the same amount of soil and same size pot.
And if it works by golly im doing it to everything or to atleast as many as i can because that just doubles up everything.
And since i just have 2 in the small pot if somthing goes wrong it wont effect the others that are doubled up in there own individual small pots.
Ya that is the 1 thing that has always crossed my mind....if one plants roots get fucked then the other will be to, thats why i only doubled up one this time around to see how they flower out and do, and if it works then why not do it?
All your doing is doubleing your yeild, and how can you complain about that?

 

[Shcrews]

if they have the same canopy area, you will not get any more yeild than from two plants than you will from one. Its all about veg time..... if you can make one plant fill up an area, then why use two? to decrease your veg time, that's why.

if you are going to veg for a week or two, then by all means: double it up.

if you are vegging for a month+, then there is no way in hell you will have room for 2 bitches in one pot


basically it sounds like you are aiming for a SOG, with a high plant count and low veg time. its a basic concept.. the lower veg time is balanced by the higher plant count, and yield increases compared to time growing.


heres a thought: instead of two plants per pot, why not just use smaller pots and fit more plants in ur room? same thing but better IMO

..or do whats best and use Soil beds, with many plants in each, like me LOL...



oh, and i think you will get more off those 2 plants than you would get off 1 plant of the same size in the same pot. however, if is possible to veg 1 plant to take up the same area as 2 plants, and then the yield will be the same

/rant

 

[maryj315]

Say good for you for trying out something new you never know you might be on to something k+

 

[mexilandrace]

been doing this for a while, the plants end up smaller than they would in a one plant one pot method but the overall yield is slightly higher.

If I am running 12/12 from seed I have as many as 4 in one pot.

 

[Luckygreenhand]

This is what i want to see, more people taking chances, and if you can maximize the benefits of your intended purpose, then more people can learn from it and take these chances. I'd like to do many different things, smaller containers over more sq ft or more plants in less pots, i cant wait to see what happens with your seimese twins!!! GL AND GROW ON!

 

[DontBanMe]

This is what i want to see, more people taking chances, and if you can maximize the benefits of your intended purpose, then more people can learn from it and take these chances. I'd like to do many different things, smaller containers over more sq ft or more plants in less pots, i cant wait to see what happens with your seimese twins!!! GL AND GROW ON!

Thanks alot, me too lol.

if they have the same canopy area, you will not get any more yeild than from two plants than you will from one

Not true at all, i do 15 at a time and harvest once and month. Meaning 15 plants. Now if i were to double up each of those pots i would have 30 plants and if these end up bdding out nicely then i def. would yeild more then iof i were to just have 15 plants in there own pots.
Thats 30 plants instead of 15 plants....canopy has nothing to do with it....each plant produces what it can relative to size, nutes, light ect. Just because it is the same hieght as the plant next to it doesnt mean that it will produce the same amount as if there was one plant.
Because you can obviously see the 2 seperate plants and eaqch seperate shoots and tops, meaning thats double....its like toping a plant but its 2 plants not 1.
As long as they dont kill eachother or somthing goes wrong i will def. yeild more from 2plants in the same amount of space then if it was just 1.
15 plants....or 30 plants...whats going to yeild more?

 

[DontBanMe]

And this is almost kinda like SOG...but a little different...i want to be able to grow nice size plants to get nice size buds. I dont wanna have 30-40 small plants in tiny containers....that means your going to be watering ALOT more because the soil will be drying up in the smaller containers faster.
Now if you are able to do this with 2 plants in a 8 inch pot that are 2ft tall before they go into flower and then they both bud out and produce atleat 75% of what they normally would i would say thats a step up of SOG.
Fitting 30 plants in the same amount of space is def. a step up from 15.
And as of now they are using the same Nute solution as plants in there own pot. Meaning they dont need to be fed more then the others.
Just because they have the same canopy (which isnt suprising because they are the same pheno and were under the same conditions) they ares till there own individual plants.
Meaning they will bud out as 2 seperate plants obviously, and if nuthing goes wrong then they will def. produce more in the same amount of space as 1 plant takes up in the same size pot and same amount of soil.
I think i am on to somthing "new" because during Veg they surpassed some plants that had there own pot.
And they look very healthy and are very healthy.
I see myself doubleing up everythign very soon because i think this is going to work alot better then some might think.
And being able to put 30 plants under the same amount of light and soil and space to produce almost double is a breakthrogh.

 

[mexilandrace]

lol, you are getting a little crazy with this breakthrough stuff, its just two plants in one pot.

 

[McChris421]

how would this be viewed in the eyes of the law? 1 plant? 2 plants?

-McChris-

 

[Shcrews]

I think i am on to somthing "new" because during Veg they surpassed some plants that had there own pot.
And they look very healthy and are very healthy.
I see myself doubleing up everythign very soon because i think this is going to work alot better then some might think.
And being able to put 30 plants under the same amount of light and soil and space to produce almost double is a breakthrogh.

haha dude you have it all wrong


more plants DOES NOT = more bud.

like i said, 2 or 3 plants vegged for a week will probably yield about the same as 1 plant vegged for 3+ weeks, grown in the same system.


if you want to plant twice as many plants in the same space, then you will cut your veg time in half, but you will NOT NECESSARILY yield more (unless you veg for a similar length of time as you would with just one plant)

there's a member on this board, foaf, who i believe grew a 4+ LB plant in his closet. ONE PLANT - 4 LBs.... do you think he could have possibly squeezed more out of that closet with a higher plant count? hell no.


now have go learn and have fun... maybe some day you will actually revolutionize growing, but not today

 

[DontBanMe]

Ok dude, 1st of all i hate these pissing contests....
If you bud 1 plant ur going to yeild 1 plants worth...
When you bud 2 plants your going to yeild 2 plants worth of bud.....common sense
Ive been growing for a very long time and i havent seen anyone doing this, i just put this out there to see what others had to say, but when jackasses like you come in and make points not relative to what im doing your being an idiot.
30 plants are going to yeild more then 15....common fucking sense...
nuff said

 

[DontBanMe]

more plants DOES NOT = more bud.

No shit, if you dont know what your doing it doesnt.....
But if you have 15 3 ft tall trained plants bud out fully ull yeild what 15 yeild
But if you have 30 3 ft tall trained plants bud out fully ull yeild what 30 plants yeild....
Just because they are in the same pot they dont magically turn into 1 plant....

 

[DontBanMe]

if you are vegging for a month+, then there is no way in hell you will have room for 2 bitches in one pot

This i what i am going to see....THIS IS A FUCKING EXPIERMENT! thats why im only doing it to one of them....all the others i got are in there own pot.
I havent seen anyone else try this shit so i am and if it works then fucking awesome because that means 2 good sized plants in the same amount of space which will equal 2 plants not 1.....
If it doesnt work out then ill never do it again...
I just gotta see
But dont come in here and just fucking talk shit when you have no clue because you havent done it urself...
When the results start coming in im going to post them right here, and hopefully you can start being mature about this and be like wow, maybe this dude is on to somthing here.
Everyone would love to double there yeild in the same amount of space, light, soil, nutes, space.....thats what breakthroughs in growing are all about.
So stop being a jackass towards me for no fucking reason.

How do yo think breakthoughs in bigger yeilds came about? people trying new things like tieing plants down, topping, fiming, ect....DWC, hundreds of differnt hydro set ups if you look em up....
people try new things out to see if they will work and if they do they and if they dont they dont....
I dont go in the LED vs HPS room and start talkin shit against them....
Because it would be easy to go in there and be like hps will kick the shit outa LEDS because of penitrating power, and so on. But i dont, because if they can come up with a breakthrough with growing under LEDS with the same results as a HID lamp then AWESOME! because that would mean a HUGE breakthrough and it would change growing indoors forever....


So im asking nicely, please stop comin in here and talkin shit to me for no reason at all...

 

[DontBanMe]

This is what i want to see, more people taking chances, and if you can maximize the benefits of your intended purpose, then more people can learn from it and take these chances. I'd like to do many different things, smaller containers over more sq ft or more plants in less pots, i cant wait to see what happens with your seimese twins!!! GL AND GROW ON!

Thank you LuckyGreenHand, im glad somone just doesnt come in here and bash on my idea....
Ive been growing for a long damn time...im just tryin somthin new, and i cant stand when people come in and just begin to talk shit....

 

[Leonidas]

As long as they are not fighting for root space and are trained not to shade light from each other they will yield more per square foot by filling up space that the single plant will not .Zoolander

 

[DontBanMe]

Say good for you for trying out something new you never know you might be on to something k+

Thank you Maryj315 im glad you dont come in here and just basha nd talk shit....I and WE dont know whats going to happen, just gotta ride it out and see, its not like im this new grower that doesnt no what im doin, ill know if its a bust or not.

 

[buzzed day]

i'm interested in what it does,good luck.peace

 

[DontBanMe]

As long as they are not fighting for root space and are trained not to shade light from each other they will yield more per square foot by filling up space that the single plant will not .Zoolander

I agree, and when i grow 15 nice size plants they fill up and take light from eachogther...but these plants you can obviously see the 2 seoperate plants.
Now if this works its just obvisous that 30 plants are going to yeild more then 15....its common sense. Thats IF IT WORKS....thats why i am only trying it on one pot with 2 plants...

Because i kinda have limited space, and 15 plants is like tops i can fit with the 8 inch pots....so im tryin to come up with a way to yeild more. And if i can fit 30 plants under it with pretty good sized plants then awesome.
And SOG doesnt peak my interest.....
If this doesnt work then i guess ill just deal with what i have...
But if it does then AWESOME!
And i guarantee if it does work others all over that read this thread will be doin it all over the world.

 

[Leonidas]

Even it it only gives you 50 % more of the same quality bud and you use the same amount of light you still are way ahead .