How fast was your kwickest klone?

[hoosierdaddy]

I have been on board with cloning since a wise old bird showed me what it was all about almost 30 years ago. Cloning can be both easy as pie, or hard as hell, since several factors are involved and any of them going awry can lead to failure.

I am certain that the environment the clones are in has lots to do with how they respond, but I also am 100% positive that a plant's overall 'clonability' is mostly strain dependent.

I have had strains that just will not clone well, no matter what I do. I have also had strains that clone if you simply place them in dirt...or perlite, or water...it don't matter it will root. And as dependent on stain for the ability to produce root, the speed at which roots appear is also strain related, IMHO.

I have had several keepers that I ended up culling because they just wouldn't clone well, or fast. I feel that the clonability of a plant is one of the most important things to consider when choosing a keepsake.

All that said...
I have found a plant that clones like a mofo! Besides that aspect, the smoke is at current my favorite. So I'm a pleased pup.

MOC Carnival is the strain, an I am liking the hell out of it. (strain whores and addicted searchers you need to stop passing over this one)
Anywho, I wanted to do an additional safety clone of one of my keeper carns, since I am getting ready to flower out the mom.
I rarely will even look at my clones for about 7 days or so as a rule, but I was curious about this one due to being anxious with other things going on.
I took a peek at the bottom of the cup just 62 hours after placing this clone in straight FFOF, and there was a root hanging out about 1 inch long. I know it was from nothing else since the soil came right out of the bag to the cup.
I pulled on the root a bit just to make sure what I saw was what I saw, and it snapped off...but I see another one peeking it's naughty little head out.

I did nothing but prepare the clone, make a hole, and plug it into the dirt.
It wilted a bit at first like they will, and I supported it with a wire wrap.
But right away (just a few hours later) the clone pulled itself up off the support and all leaves looked vigorous. Nothing has wilted or yellowed at all..hell it hasn't had time.

Just for the record, I sketched my method to prepare clones.
I skin a node like a sting bean. Cut the stalk at a steep angle, dust with clone stuff, and plug it to the node above.
I never mist, cover, or do anything different with clones than the rest of the veg/mom cab sees.

This one was a record for me (at least I think it is).
Whats your fastest roots?

 

[Koskesh]

Everything is strain dependent, from the clone to the pipe! I do mine in jiffy peat pellets, they start to show at about 6 days, ready to plant at 9-11 max. I soak the pellets with plain water and some root crap, maybe a foliar later on with some bloom nutes at 1/5. Heat pad gave me PM lol so I stopped using it

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Kewl, Koskesh...but any report of a fast clone?

 

[Weedman Herb]

If you were just curious how do you know the exact amount of hours it took? Sounds like you were conducting an experiment. I mean ... come on ... I know about when I enter the Zone and about when I leave but I don't Record the times. You have exact info in a supposedly Random Situation? Hmmm ...

 

[hoosierdaddy]

The information I provided was exact, and precise. What would make you think otherwise?
I keep a log of things, and I can read a wristwatch. Sheesh.

*Actually, I take offense to your "Hmmmm" which to me implys that you donot feel I am being truthful. Tell you what, you go bacvk and read up, there Herb. I explained in detail the situation and why I happened to see these roots so fast.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

If you were just curious how do you know the exact amount of hours it took?

I know exactly what time of day the clone was plugged into the hole.
I also know exactly what time it was when I discovered the roots.
And, I passed math class in first grade.
Now, it may have been the the roots came about much sooner than 62 hours after set, but I didn't look until 62 hours later.

 

[T.Baggins]

i had some ak47 cuttings that rooted in three days once...... all the stars must have been in line that day bcuz its never happened since. i think it would be cool to use a bubble cloner to see the roots when they start to pop outta the stems.... i think its really awesome that you keep accurate records of your plants

 

[steppinRazor]

pretty bad ass man... definitely an interesting way of doing things.. and god damn thats one BIG CLONE!!!

you know i hear blueberry is supposed to be harder to clone than alotta strains tho i never had a problem with it while i had it..

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Thanks, TBaggins
If I didn't take notes, I would not be able to remember what I did because...aaa...because...I know there's a reason....


Steppin, I like to take em with a lil meat on em. Seems like they take to it better than the little ones half that size.

 

[00420]

i had a silverhaze take root ( 1/2" or so long ) in a bubble cloner in the same time frame 60-64 hr's it was more then 48 but surely was not at the 72 yet.... like T.Baggins said once & never again...... all the other silverhaze i took after that one where 5-7 days..... by far one of the fastest strains consistently that i have had. right now i have a chezz (2 pheno's ) that both show right around day 6-7 and ready to plant at day 10 the thai pheno of thunk that i have got 100% at day 15 60% where rooted around day 12-14 ( most strains that i have played with are this time frame ) grape ape takes 15-20

 

[FreezerBoy]

Well, I'm not going to win any medals here. My norm is 12-14 days. My fastest was in the latest batch at 8 days. That's a big difference and makes me wonder why. The only two changes between this and all past batches are: First time with Destroyer strain, first time cloning tops instead of side-shoots.

I like the branch break and peel trick. I'm gonna try that.

 

[killa-bud]

my bagseed clone showed thoese "bumps" in like,2 days,fully rooted in about a week

 

[cork144]

4 days, white widow in a perlite cloner

 

[XIII]

I had a pure power plant cutting root in 65 hours in a simple perlite cloner.

Unfortunately I was cloning for sex and it was a male.



-XIII

 

[maryj315]

Last time out mine took 6 days nice size cuts i do not have luck with the smaller ones

 

[Hazeseeker]

7 days is the fastest i've managed to root a clone, that was Biddy's Sister,
using root riot cubes, in a propagator (no heat pad), misting the plants 3 times a day for the first 3 or 4 days,
Uk Cheese has been pretty consistant at 10-12 days,
NL#5xHaze around the same time - 10-12 days

peace

 

[vindiesel]

i just cloned for 1st time. 4 nebulas. all 4 rooted in 11 days. could have been sooner but i checked on day 11, had roots, and planted on day 14. i keep a digital RH gauge in that tent, if RH was above 55 i didnt use dome, if it went under 45 or so i used dome. i also placed the clones in a tupperware tray. under the glass tray under the clones i had a small flat reptile cage heater. kept bottom of clones warm. seemed easy. goota keep RH and temp right , keep misting and have bottom of clones warm IME.

 

[theHIGHlander]

6 days for 2 trainwreck ,,9 days 3 lemon skunk

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

7 days is the fastest i've managed to root a clone, that was Biddy's Sister,
using root riot cubes, in a propagator (no heat pad), misting the plants 3 times a day for the first 3 or 4 days,
Uk Cheese has been pretty consistant at 10-12 days,
NL#5xHaze around the same time - 10-12 days

peace

Tests by myself and lots of others has found Root Riots [Growth Technology] organic foam cubes to be the quickest medium for rooting.

I also like the new Coco pellets [just like a jiffy, but pH friendly Coco] slotted into ideally spaced seed trays [look around and find one in the garden center with better spacing for your clones than the std "one they came in"]

Heating .... get the Infa Red heater strips eg the "Lucky Reptile Thermo Strip" to heat a 3" deep water tray underneath your plants, obviously keep cubes well clear of the surface.... set thermostat cutout probe in cube like a clone likewise a remote thermometer sensor. Adjust heating thermostat to give 23 or 24 degrees before cutting out... the volume of water evens out and stabilises the heat whilst also humidifying the propagator. You leave vents open from the word go, constantly rising humidity keeps the girls happy and the open vents make for good fresh, yet perfectly humid atmosphere from the word go.

First roots... Put straight into [or modify the above into also being] a "Bare root NFT" system, I love the 4' black rockwool trays with the 12 mini spiked ridges, the roots grow down out of the block 2mm, hit the bottom and constant water flow....turn sideways and go mad, yet when you transplant, you loose nothing .... you have a flat 2D root system with no broken roots.

You can then transplant into anything, including soil, but best in a hydro system, NFT being my fave. If you flower in a SoG you will really understand how important clone quality is, giving them perfect conditions from the word go is really important.

Synergol a professional rooting hormone also roots quicker than any growshop potion, one shop even rebadges 20ml bottles of it and sells it as his own label. In his defence he probably couldnt stick the real name on it and has very happy customers.