securing a WAREHOUSE location

[jerrymcginnis]

securing a WAREHOUSE location

I think I may have posted this in the wrong forum. I'm going to post it in this forum.


Attached you will find a diagram of a space within a commercial warehouse amongst other tenants.
The walls of the grow room are 8' high.
The ceiling of room are about 16 feet tall.
The walls, floors, and ceilings are made of concrete.
The grow room is made of 2 x 4, metal stud and black/white poly

There are two doors made of metal which swing inward.
The right door has a deadbolt (repinned) and a standard door handle lock.

The door area needs to be secured against untimely unwanted visitors (other tenants, landlord, maintenance people, and create delay incase we need to evacuate.

As the plan stands now there will be a steel door on a wooden frame behind the existing door. This hall way to the office will have a wooden ceiling and particle board walls.

Behind this wall a number of considerations are possible.
1. Wall off the grow and create a false book case door
2. Steel cage (expensive?)
3. Chain link fence with chain link door (floor to ceiling around wooden structure)
4. Cinderblock wall with ceiling

Any ideas?

 

[Whatever]

Any ideas?

You're in over your head.

 

[petemoss]

How are you going to deal with odors? Other tenants or watchmen may smell your plants and tip off authorities. Are there enough electrical lines in your space? Sounds kind of scary to me.

 

[jerrymcginnis]

fuck you in over my head. Read a book asshole. Go bring your negativity to some other board.



Odor is being dealt with by 3 Pro-Filter 150's underneath 3 Vortex 12" Powerfan XL's.
Wiring is as follows:
5x 40AMP single throw Intermatic 24hour timers
4x 20 amp 3-prong outlets

The odor protection along with room design and cooling issues have all been well planned. Everything is straight as an arrow except this security issue.

I'm happy to answer most any question.

 

[Vetus Fossor]

My question: why must you go straight to the "fuck you" and "read a book asshole"? Seems to me the negativity comes from you. And books are often very wrong. IC is full of examples where somebody wrote a book and when real life met thought, the book was proven wrong.
You do know most warehouses have annual unannounced fire marshall inspections? Every been through one? I have. The look EVERYWHERE. They chase wires if they think they need to.
You could have been more civil. Feel free to blast me. You're nothing but 1's and 0's that made words on my monitor to me.

 

[Mr Celsius]

"There's an easy way to do things and a hard way to do things. The choice is yours."

With all this trouble/building expenses and increased possibilities of being caught, you could simply rent a house...

Also, you're very naive to believe you won't get criticism on a cannabis site for what you're asking advice on. Go read the other 200+ threads on this site that never came to fruition/failed.

Show me some pictures of the place and what you've already done and then I can give you the best advice you'd ever need.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

jerry, from what I am reading, you are preparing yourself for one of two things...
The realization that you plan is for shit...OR...getting ready to visit the hoosegow.
With such big plans you really should be able to see that your plan is not going to work out well. Why try to interact with the public and place yourself with so much security risk and expense? It's a silly idea, plain and simple..and you can call 'fuck you' all you want, pal. You either have to be challenged in the planning dept, or a kid. Kids often have no idea that their ideas are all fucked up. They also are quick to pop off to people and curse them...especially from the comfort of the screen they are hiding behind. ["Hey fuck you...I'm no kid, I'm 22 years old!" (LOL...)]

IMO, 9 times out of 10 when a person spouts off "fuck you" on a message board, the reality of it is, the guy would never say those words to the same person, in person, for fear of getting their knot shined up real well. But smart mouthed kids, and adult assholes, often try to get by with it when they are hiding from afar.

Unless of course you are in Boston or Brooklyn, where 'Fuck You' is a term of endearment. LOL...

 

[messn'n'gommin']

...You do know most warehouses have annual unannounced fire marshall inspections? Every been through one? I have. The look EVERYWHERE. They chase wires if they think they need to...

@ jerrymcginnis:

After a nosy LL, this is probably the biggest risk of discovery you will face. An inspector has the power of the city/county/state behind them when they want to enter ANY commercial building. If you don't believe me, refuse entry to one. An hour later when he returns with a couple of cops you can give them your interpretation of Constitutional law.

Also, being confrontational will only bring you a higher profile. That's not all that big of a problem at a forum website, where anonymity is relatively easy, but it will only bring laughter from a cop, jailer, judge, and warden while you are screaming about your civil rights being violated or how unjust the laws are against marijuana.

That being said, you might find this of interest.

So you wanna be a commercial grower:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=86591

Namaste, mess

 

[PharmaCan]

jerrymcginnis - take a look at this thread:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=95524

It will give you some insight into what you are up against asking about mega-grows here.

One of your biggest problems that just jumps right out is that the warehouse has 16' ceilings and 8' walls. Do you have any idea how much lumber it will take to build a ceiling in that area? ...or how much attention doing so will bring? Maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the purpose of a super-secure door if all one has to do is climb an 8" wall to gain entry?

One last thing, you can tell me to fuck off and no one here will care because, well, I'm an asshole and everyone knows it. But Whatever is kinda one of the good guys around here and telling him/her to fuck off will only make you enemies. If you really want advice, you might consider an apology.

PC

 

[yamaha_1fan]

jerrymcginnis - take a look at this thread:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=95524

It will give you some insight into what you are up against asking about mega-grows here.

One of your biggest problems that just jumps right out is that the warehouse has 16' ceilings and 8' walls. Do you have any idea how much lumber it will take to build a ceiling in that area? ...or how much attention doing so will bring? Maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the purpose of a super-secure door if all one has to do is climb an 8" wall to gain entry?

One last thing, you can tell me to fuck off and no one here will care because, well, I'm an asshole and everyone knows it. But Whatever is kinda one of the good guys around here and telling him/her to fuck off will only make you enemies. If you really want advice, you might consider an apology.

PC

I dont think you are an asshole Another good one is the 10,000 seeds multi-acre grow.


But I'll bite

Is this double door an exterior door? Is that why it cant me modified.

Depending on the size of the space, I would build a front office. Put a wall across the warehouse, put a drywall ceiling in (drop would be cheaper but not as secure) and put a door in.

From your diagram it seems like you are creating a little room in front of the door and that would look really odd and create more suspicion

 

[MysteryMachine]

If it were me doing this, and I was afraid of the inspector, I would buy a big enclosed trailer, do the damn thing in there, and if for any reasen I needed to move the grow, it would be on wheels ready to go. However you do it good luck and stay safe.

 

[JohnnyToke]

I guess jerrymcginnis has left the building!

 

[petemoss]

Well, I hope you cool off jerry and consider what we all are saying about your plans. It really is an unnecessary risk to grow in a public place. You may have balls of steel, but that won't help you in jail! Wake up and grow safe!

 

[BigWillyDee]

jerry. one thing to note is that (3) 12" fans will be loud and will have your neighbors wondering what the heck is that buzzing sound....i remember when i was looking into commercial spaces...i decided it just was waaay to risky...mr.c said it right just rent a house....

If it were me doing this, and I was afraid of the inspector, I would buy a big enclosed trailer, do the damn thing in there, and if for any reasen I needed to move the grow, it would be on wheels ready to go. However you do it good luck and stay safe.

interesting idea

 

[MrInterested]

Can I suggest a nice, quiet place out in the country?? ....

You say this is within a warehouse around other space owners... are you mental? just a simple problem: Hauling large amounts of weed in and out without being noticed. A big crop makes alot of weed, and alot of leftover garbage. Hauling huge trash bags of used soil and plant matter is not inconspicuous, do it two or three times and people are going to ask themselves WTF is up with that guy. then you need soil to come in, you need alot of electricity, and water.

you want a place where you can be alone, not be noticed, blend in, have your own space, far away from others so that noise and smell will not be noticed... a shared warehouse offers none of those things.

if you're still going to do this, here is a checklist of things you need to be CERTAIN of:

is the electricity bill shared, or do you pay separately?
who monitors the use of electricity?
Does the landlord check it on the space?
is the landlord cool with you building a big-ass cinderblock cube in the middle of his warehouse (by law, you need to get permission before making ANY changes to the area)
do you have access to a water-outlet?
can the power lines in your space handle the amount of power needed for your grow?
does sound easily penetrate between spaces?
fire inspector, cable guy, electricians, plumbers, phone company... will they EVER have a reason they'll need to enter your space?
Do they bring sniffer dogs in there on a regular basis? (some storage facilities do this, in case you're growing in one of those).

If you truly think you can deal with every single one of those issues then go ahead, but I can't really imagine a landlord that never ever checks in and wouldn't notice a brick house in the middle of his warehouse.

 

[Bubble Puppy]

Like yamahaa said .use drywall and build walls or an office .Or rent a different wharehouse location with a few rooms ,and in the outter rooms put your diversion..