To me it is easy, YES
SHOULD CANNABIS BE LEGALIZED?
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herbie5000
legalise! now!
Oh Hell,YES! The Drug Czars office has a budget of $19 billion dollars. The DEA share of that is $2.5 billion. Annually, 700-800,000 people are arrested for possession of pot. There are currently 46,000 people in jail or prison just for pot alone. Just think of the money that could be saved in law enforcement and prison costs alone, not to mention the social costs of helping prisoners families when the wage earner goes to jail. The War on Drugs is a war on the American people and the U.S, Constitution. So far it has been a total failure. Anslinger had a budget of $1.5 million and 300 employees. Today there are 12,000 employees of the DEA with a budget of $2.5 billion and there are more drugs on the streets than ever before. The War on Drugs is only beneficial to politicians, law enforcement and criminals. The Mexican drug cartels take in $50 billion a year. The only way they can do that is for drugs to be illegal, which makes them profitable.
yes. pops said it all. the cost of the prosecution of the possesion and growing of pot is too high compared to any cost using it imposes on society, and in fact hinders research into its possible beneficial properties. it is one big fat cash grab by those who would use the legal system to try and shape the "morals" of society.
It does not really matter how much money is being spent on mantaining cannabis illegal; because those prohibition laws are just plain evil, unhealthy and downpressive. besides, it is obvious they do not care how much it costs, they have the money to do it, as they are making more than enough of it with the prohibition/black market game.
and so, yes, cannabis has to be legal.
and so, yes, cannabis has to be legal.
yes it should be legal...and within some time it probably will
the movement has been gaining momentum....and internet is helping a lot
the more people grow their own cannabis plants....the more they will understand how wonderful this plant really is
but we have to be careful.....because as with most things....it should be done in *moderation*......legal or not
the movement has been gaining momentum....and internet is helping a lot
the more people grow their own cannabis plants....the more they will understand how wonderful this plant really is
but we have to be careful.....because as with most things....it should be done in *moderation*......legal or not
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DogBoy
I vote no. Regulation will be just as bad as prohibition.
You think the US will ever roll over and say they were wrong, they would be sued from here until Xmas if they did.
Never gonna happen and i'll take bets on that!
You think the US will ever roll over and say they were wrong, they would be sued from here until Xmas if they did.
Never gonna happen and i'll take bets on that!
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guest
OK! I'll place a bet! Now in 500 years who do my decendants collect from?DogBoy said:
I vote no. Regulation will be just as bad as prohibition.
^^ Please elaborate! How would it be worse ? And if prohibition does not work..and regulation does not work. What does ?
You think the US will ever roll over and say they were wrong, they would be sued from here until Xmas if they did.
Now this part i agree with...But no one has to admit anything. They will just weasel their way out like they always do. And who is to blame anyway ?
^^ Please elaborate! How would it be worse ? And if prohibition does not work..and regulation does not work. What does ?
You think the US will ever roll over and say they were wrong, they would be sued from here until Xmas if they did.
Now this part i agree with...But no one has to admit anything. They will just weasel their way out like they always do. And who is to blame anyway ?
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DogBoy
9Lives said:
Think for a moment how it would be legalized. You would first obviously repeal the old laws. that's cool. Now they would need to create new laws to regulate and control it, this is where i think they would fall down. All the laws would be geared to getting as much tax and regulation in place as possible. As they are also untested they would also create sweeping rules to cover things they are worried about. Now, even if they did create new laws and these were fair and just, how long do you think it would be before the entire world moved to the legalising countries just so they could make money. It would be like the fabled " American Dream ". Law and order would go to hell as people scrabbled to control their areas supply. Housing, in short supply already, would be under pressure due to the number of houses converted into this dream.
Would America be happy to allow this to happen around the world or would they step up their programme of allowing aid only if the country allows them control over the drug laws and policy? The world police would kill themselves trying to make this legalisation fail.
There are a million other aspects which would be a nightmare but these are the obvious ones.
As for your question of what would work, i have no idea. I'm just a little guy with an opinion. Even if i knew the answer to that i have no power to impliment it so it's a moot point really.
All the Feds have to do is reschedule Cannabis as a Schedule 7 drug, like alcohol and tobacco. Then the states can regulate it just as they do tobacco and alcohol. The Feds can put a tax on it and the states can put a tax on it. My only fear is that they would get so greedy that the taxes would be so high that criminals could still undercut them with untaxed pot. Politicians are not the brightest crooks in the game!
WoW maannnn
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...and hemp too!
^ I can't believe you are can't grow hemp in the U.S. Talk about ass-backwards..
Dogboy i believe many of the problems you posted have more to do with the current government...or the lack of governing than with cannabis laws. Obviously if cannabis is ever going to be legalized it's going to be under a much different government.
And the housing thing seems a bit paranoid...a few acres of greenhouses would outgrow a city. And make small time (let's say a house) growing uneconomical.
Anyway who knows...Bottom line we can't fear the things that ''could go wrong!'' and force people to live in fear and go to prison at the same time..Considering the laws in place today. I dare say we can't fuck up any worse!
I see the future of the cannabis industry pretty much as something we have in place today. Good quality product will always have the edge. Something like wine you have the cheap bottle of battery acid and the more expensive bottle that came from a far off farm.. What i can't imagine is how the seed business would look like. They can't really OVER regulate cannabis imo..specially if it's legal. Hell they can't even regulate it now and it is ILLEGAL.
Dogboy i believe many of the problems you posted have more to do with the current government...or the lack of governing than with cannabis laws. Obviously if cannabis is ever going to be legalized it's going to be under a much different government.
And the housing thing seems a bit paranoid...a few acres of greenhouses would outgrow a city. And make small time (let's say a house) growing uneconomical.
Anyway who knows...Bottom line we can't fear the things that ''could go wrong!'' and force people to live in fear and go to prison at the same time..Considering the laws in place today. I dare say we can't fuck up any worse!
I see the future of the cannabis industry pretty much as something we have in place today. Good quality product will always have the edge. Something like wine you have the cheap bottle of battery acid and the more expensive bottle that came from a far off farm.. What i can't imagine is how the seed business would look like. They can't really OVER regulate cannabis imo..specially if it's legal. Hell they can't even regulate it now and it is ILLEGAL.
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yeah, make it like wine, or cigs. you can make your own wine, share it with friends, but if you're goin commercial you are regulated etc. i think its legal to make your own smokes, if you grow tobacco, don't know; sellin 'em would be different (gov't aint gonna miss out on their "sin tax")Pops said:
i agree that you have to keep an eye on those bastards, it was taxes that started the war against weed, and some s.o.b. will try to tax the hell out of it.
Marijuana is already taxed here in the US and you can purchase tax stamps for it from certain states.The current rate of taxation most states have settled on is $3.50 usd per gram,that's about $100 an ounce in taxes.
My guess is that legalization will take the same course as Med MJ.Eventually one of the states will pass an all out legalization bill,Nevada came very close already,then hopefully more states will follow.In the interm the Feds will still prosecute though,until enough states pass legalization that it becomes economically crippling for them to do so.
JLP
My guess is that legalization will take the same course as Med MJ.Eventually one of the states will pass an all out legalization bill,Nevada came very close already,then hopefully more states will follow.In the interm the Feds will still prosecute though,until enough states pass legalization that it becomes economically crippling for them to do so.
JLP
