I am about to buy some more seeds and I m looking at a strain called Makado. I is an auto flower and strain and can be harvested in about 45 days. It is a short plant making it ideal for indoor but I want to know about it's potency. If someone that has tried or grown it can you give me the heads up on quality. Lets try and compare it to White Widow. I have smoked WW a few times and it was pretty damn good. So I think that WW would be a good cpomparison. Thanks a lot fellas.
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Makado anyone ever try it
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Chubbynugs is growing it now, here's a link. He just started them I think
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1820380#post1820380
I think he has grown it before though, maybe ask him, or he might see this thread.
I was looking at getting this strain myself.
Another link:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=47235&page=10&pp=15&highlight=mikado
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1820380#post1820380
I think he has grown it before though, maybe ask him, or he might see this thread.
I was looking at getting this strain myself.
Another link:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=47235&page=10&pp=15&highlight=mikado
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Mikado shows sex early, but is not autoflowering as far as i know.
I believe its either NL#5 x the grapefruit clone, and stabalized. Or Afghanixgrapefruit clone.
I grew it a while back, it looks sativa but smokes indica, mind you i grew the indica pheno.
Great for sea of green, makes a massive cola.
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Mikado shows sex early, but is not autoflowering as far as i know.
I believe its either NL#5 x the grapefruit clone, and stabalized. Or Afghanixgrapefruit clone.
I grew it a while back, it looks sativa but smokes indica, mind you i grew the indica pheno.
Great for sea of green, makes a massive cola.
amrad is right on.
the 45 day pheno is elusive at best though. I've read of people's going 60-65 days before being finished.
There is supposed to be an autoflowering pheno of fed's mikado if my memory's working right, though i may be thinking photosensitive. However, you shouldn't really plan on getting this pheno unless you grow out 2 or 3 packs.
the 45 day pheno is elusive at best though. I've read of people's going 60-65 days before being finished.
There is supposed to be an autoflowering pheno of fed's mikado if my memory's working right, though i may be thinking photosensitive. However, you shouldn't really plan on getting this pheno unless you grow out 2 or 3 packs.
Is it a good scrog strain do you suppose? I already have a grow box and I have about 60-70 for seeds, and that is all I need to grow. O am using DM One series nutrients, for the price I couldn't go wrong. 1.32 gallons of grow and of Flower for 61.00 shipped.
What are some other good strains for around 60-70 that will go good in a scrog/TAG setup. I as looking for a fast grow obviously, but potency is as vital as size. In a box that has about 32 total inches of grow space?
What are some other good strains for around 60-70 that will go good in a scrog/TAG setup. I as looking for a fast grow obviously, but potency is as vital as size. In a box that has about 32 total inches of grow space?
From the research i have done on the federation seed mikado it is not the true original mikado. Verite has made the holy grail strain with the real mikado cut. I honestly doubt there is a 45 day pheno anymore but hey we all can wish. Come check out the grow in a couple weeks and you will see some in flower.
Also it does not taste anything like the ww. The times i smoked mikado it had a piney almost kushy taste to it. It has to have some kind of kush in it somewhere in its genetic family tree.chubbynugs said:
Well thanks for all the info guys it helps out a lot. Can you guys my some suggestions on some other seeds that will fit my application well? I am really not that up on what seeds are good and which are ok, or which one straight out suck. I'm sure you guys understand. who wants to spend 70.00 on something and end up being disappointed? Thanks again fellas.
Mikado is nothing like ww.
It's a multiple backcross of the BC grapefruit cutting aka spg (sweet pink grapefruit), with the offspring showing a fair degree of variation as the GF itself is not true breeding.
It won't truly finish in 45 days.... but you could start pulling around 50-55, 60 days for actual ripeness.
Sweet flavour, would go well in a scrog aplication but really they do better as small bushes with stakes for support.
As said above, it will show pre-flowers but isn't really an auto-flowering strain- you need to induce 12/12.
-Chimera
It's a multiple backcross of the BC grapefruit cutting aka spg (sweet pink grapefruit), with the offspring showing a fair degree of variation as the GF itself is not true breeding.
It won't truly finish in 45 days.... but you could start pulling around 50-55, 60 days for actual ripeness.
Sweet flavour, would go well in a scrog aplication but really they do better as small bushes with stakes for support.
As said above, it will show pre-flowers but isn't really an auto-flowering strain- you need to induce 12/12.
-Chimera
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I grew Mikado last year outdoors. I popped 20 seeds and if I remember correctly, I harvested about 7 females out of 11 initial females.. Every plant was identical with zero phenotypical variation in any of the plants. Some were taller than others, but identical stature and structure.
amrads description is accurate, sativa growth and indica stone. The stone is serious and the strain is potent as hell. Its also quite tasty. Potency was a solid 9
By growing 2 packs out I can assure you that any suggestion that it is an auto or that it finishes in 45 days is crap. There are no pheno's nor are there any plants that finish in the time perscribed by the breeder.This is a 70-80 day finisher. Its one of the few times Ive read a breeder's description of finishing time and concluded that they have straight up lied. It aint so and they have to know it..
Its a good yielder. Its a very good strain as long as you don't believe it will finish quickly or grow it outdoors anywhere that the weather cant support it until Nov. I would grow it again INDOORS in a heartbeat. Top notch. Hardy and fairly easy to grow.
amrads description is accurate, sativa growth and indica stone. The stone is serious and the strain is potent as hell. Its also quite tasty. Potency was a solid 9
By growing 2 packs out I can assure you that any suggestion that it is an auto or that it finishes in 45 days is crap. There are no pheno's nor are there any plants that finish in the time perscribed by the breeder.This is a 70-80 day finisher. Its one of the few times Ive read a breeder's description of finishing time and concluded that they have straight up lied. It aint so and they have to know it..
Its a good yielder. Its a very good strain as long as you don't believe it will finish quickly or grow it outdoors anywhere that the weather cant support it until Nov. I would grow it again INDOORS in a heartbeat. Top notch. Hardy and fairly easy to grow.
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Chimera, im just curious, you use alot of canadian genetics in your seedbank and i heard mikado was one one the best all around plants there are. have you ever thought about using mikado in the strains you create? if not how come?
mikado is supposed to be a sweet pink grapefruit backcross but is it really a good representative of spg? what would you say the differences are in potency, yield and taste? the reason why im asking is because sweet tooth 3 is supposed to be a backcross to spg and people say its not that potent but when people talk about mikado they say its potent as hell.
mikado is supposed to be a sweet pink grapefruit backcross but is it really a good representative of spg? what would you say the differences are in potency, yield and taste? the reason why im asking is because sweet tooth 3 is supposed to be a backcross to spg and people say its not that potent but when people talk about mikado they say its potent as hell.
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No, I've never considerred using Mikado, although I did grow 3 packs out about 8 years ago.
I've no need to use Mikado as I hold the original SPG cutting on which she is based, given to me years ago by Vic High... in fact it only found it's way back to the folks who made the original batch of Swt 1.1's and thus SOL and crew, via me.
Mikado is a multiple backcross plant, the original pool of which was started by using 2 single plants... which imnsho is a bad way to start a breeding program.
I've since crossed her to multiple different genetic pools using multiple pollen inputs from each pool, and have been working down multiple lines selecting for the traits I consider valuable in the SPG while rejecting all others. The purpose is to create a grapefuit like pool that is healthy enough to withstand recurrent mass selection selection in order to create a true breeding line.
Don't get me wrong... you'll find nice enough plants to clone and grow within the Mikado line... just as you were able to in Swt #3 and still can in grapefruit X blueberry aka Swt 1.1.
It doesn't however suit my criteria for a healthy breeding population to work with.... especially given that I have the clone that the line is based on. Make sense?
-Chimera
I've no need to use Mikado as I hold the original SPG cutting on which she is based, given to me years ago by Vic High... in fact it only found it's way back to the folks who made the original batch of Swt 1.1's and thus SOL and crew, via me.
Mikado is a multiple backcross plant, the original pool of which was started by using 2 single plants... which imnsho is a bad way to start a breeding program.
I've since crossed her to multiple different genetic pools using multiple pollen inputs from each pool, and have been working down multiple lines selecting for the traits I consider valuable in the SPG while rejecting all others. The purpose is to create a grapefuit like pool that is healthy enough to withstand recurrent mass selection selection in order to create a true breeding line.
Don't get me wrong... you'll find nice enough plants to clone and grow within the Mikado line... just as you were able to in Swt #3 and still can in grapefruit X blueberry aka Swt 1.1.
It doesn't however suit my criteria for a healthy breeding population to work with.... especially given that I have the clone that the line is based on. Make sense?
-Chimera
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TREE KING
chimera, i appreciate your response. im trying to figure out smoke wise how they are different? is the potency,and taste pretty much the same? i heard mikado smelled like rasberrys.
so youre creating your own spg seedline?
so youre creating your own spg seedline?
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In regards to your edit.....
Keep in mind, the Mikado seeds I grew were purchased in the late '90's... I believe their line has only been further backcrossed since then.
I found a couple of plants that were spg-like in taste and smell, many were not like the spg in floral-character or stature. This is expected when dealing with a backcross line using a hybrid (non true-breeding) genotype such as the SPG. It's the same reason there was a certain degree of variation in the Swt #3.... no degree of selection can cure this condition in a backcross program, which IMO is a streategy not well suited to hybrid genotypes like SPG.
Within any backcross population of hybrid clones, you should expect sme degree of variation at any locus that does not breed true...this can easily account for the reports by some of low potency. If you look around, some people thought the swt #3 was very potent, and listed as an all time favorite. Considering most people grow small populations of any seedline, most recombinant types will be missed by the random sampling of the population contained in a seedpack.
I certainly didn't find the spg-like Mikado plants 'potent as hell'... the best were about on par to the SPG which is not 'potent as hell' either. She does excel in flavour and bag appeal, leaves some to be desired in terms of stature... but the yield is good if you get her dialed. She does have some of what I deem negative traits.... her floppy stature and tendency to pre-flower heavily when root bound being up front. Luckily, these often don't appear in hybrid crosses and are easily removed in downline selections given proper selection pressures are applied.
Hope that answers your question...
-Chimera
Keep in mind, the Mikado seeds I grew were purchased in the late '90's... I believe their line has only been further backcrossed since then.
I found a couple of plants that were spg-like in taste and smell, many were not like the spg in floral-character or stature. This is expected when dealing with a backcross line using a hybrid (non true-breeding) genotype such as the SPG. It's the same reason there was a certain degree of variation in the Swt #3.... no degree of selection can cure this condition in a backcross program, which IMO is a streategy not well suited to hybrid genotypes like SPG.
Within any backcross population of hybrid clones, you should expect sme degree of variation at any locus that does not breed true...this can easily account for the reports by some of low potency. If you look around, some people thought the swt #3 was very potent, and listed as an all time favorite. Considering most people grow small populations of any seedline, most recombinant types will be missed by the random sampling of the population contained in a seedpack.
I certainly didn't find the spg-like Mikado plants 'potent as hell'... the best were about on par to the SPG which is not 'potent as hell' either. She does excel in flavour and bag appeal, leaves some to be desired in terms of stature... but the yield is good if you get her dialed. She does have some of what I deem negative traits.... her floppy stature and tendency to pre-flower heavily when root bound being up front. Luckily, these often don't appear in hybrid crosses and are easily removed in downline selections given proper selection pressures are applied.
Hope that answers your question...
-Chimera
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Chimera, interesting info. thank you so much for your time.
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