Making A Living Off Medical Marijuana?

[lighterfuel]

Nothing is worse that dealing with Dispensary Owners. They are constantly trying to lowball. Seems there is allways something wrong with the product which justifies lower"Tier" price, Lol. Much easier to network and build your business that way.

 

[Rainman]

Wanna move here and get a personal medical scrip to grow commercial size, one grow halfway under your belt but alot of people close to you giving you advice, dont even live in cali so you know nothing about the scene or the community, want to start with 99 plants even though you haven grown more than 4 plants in your career, live off the garden(welfare) and not work!!! Is this a joke? This guy must be about 10 yrs old!! Someone tell him this website is for adults over 18 and his mommy is gonna be mad at him and start blocking his sites!!

 

[TwistedRemedy]

check it out, the only way to get millions of us greenbacks out of any club any were from doing indoo setups is to "buy" brand new houses sevenbedrooms or more,"million or so to buy' outfited with four by four foot flood and drain tables, thousand watt bulbs running off illegal power toss in over three hundred plants flowering at all times and then make sure u havest every 3 months so you can get 4 cycles a year. around 3 hundred thousand profit off every havest can be made. and to consider even that large of a grow can be setup with proer equip would only cost mabey fifty thousand at best ....
very nice "hydro" mothers "ers" are needed as well as top of the line nutes like dutch masters our CUtting edge solutions and florolicouis bloom or plus. to help make sure its worth the money in tast and effects cause the only way to make it is if you can grow meds that meet or bet the standerds already in place lby your competioin already in place, and belive me california has very high expectations lol best of luck

 

[TwistedRemedy]

everyone wants to knock comercial growers,
mainly in fear that its competion,
that they cant match tha granddaddy...... but they do like to smoke it when its around ....


in order for philip moris to produce continuely consistant marlboro's it must have numerous farmers growin certian flavors of tobbacoo on a very large comercial scale,

 

[NorCalFor20]

Wanna move here and get a personal medical scrip to grow commercial size, one grow halfway under your belt but alot of people close to you giving you advice, dont even live in cali so you know nothing about the scene or the community, want to start with 99 plants even though you haven grown more than 4 plants in your career, live off the garden(welfare) and not work!!! Is this a joke? This guy must be about 10 yrs old!! Someone tell him this website is for adults over 18 and his mommy is gonna be mad at him and start blocking his sites!!

hey i assume your pirate138 on another account....

4 plants in my whole growing carrer? what ass did you pull that number out of? ive got more than 4 plants in my bathroom, 4 in my closet, and 20+plants outdoors, seems like you need to grow a few

considering my name is NORCALfor20 you would assume i have been/or lived in cali at one time or another. been growing weed for 6 going on 7 years. someone needs to tell you to tell you how to get that big metal rod out of your ass. by your previous post's i assume you are a 13 year old girl in heat. Please leave your hormones on , teengirlsforum.com

get real. insulting people,arguing, or bitching about upload being down seems to be about 50% of your post,ill bet your banned soon. later.

 

[Rainman]

I was thinking of moving back to nor cal and starting a small commerical grow under 100 plants. Is there much of a risk growing amounts under 99 ? I ask because I thought if I wasn't mistaken anything under 99 plants is not fed territory, and SB420 being invalid would seem with a doctors recomendation for "unlimited" plants for the purpose of serving myself and a nice fair dispensary for medical patients. Is it possible to make enough to living off of? I ask because now I am growing 4 plants for my first indoor grow and everything is going great, if not better than i expected. I want to wake up and tend to my plants, all day long without having a job interfere with my growing. Would 99 plants be enough for my own supply ( 1-2 Oz per week depending on my medical needs) and enough to sell the rest to the dispensary to cover my bills and have enough money to get by? Or is this just a crazy dream of mine?

Norcal - Hate to say it but I am not a pirate under any or other accounts and never been to that site. Sounds fun but im into the real thing. And really dont know anything about metal objects and anybody's ass! Now I admit my post was a little harsh but lets look at the facts here. Your first indoor grow is where the 4 plants came in. Any way you look at it you don't have the skills with 4 plants indoors under your Oshkosh's to do it indoors at 99 plants right off and make a livin, do well enough to compete with the guys already doin it here already, do well enough to sell to any of the finicky dispencaries! That is just the truth at this point. Not saying you couldn't get there but right now you already know what i am saying is logic! Outside you would have to have a place large enough to put 99 plants. Thats not the same thing as renting a 2 bdrm apt here. You gotta have the land and here in Cali as you already know from being here ain't cheap(second most expensive in the nation actually)!!
Now for most entertaining point of this whole thing! Now I know many guys growin pott, usin pot, sellin pot, all three!!, and one thing they all have in common is they all hold down some kinda job!! Who in their right mind would come on here and pronounce to the world they want to be a lazy pot growing, and selling bum with no ambition in life but to get outta bed and smell a few flowers(which dont need constant everday care by the way)? It would interfere with my getting up each day and tending to my plants"!!! Man if it was that easy and you had even a little clue you would wake up and get on Monster -look for a job - for everybody's sake!!! And stop living off all us hard working, taxpaying pot smokers supporting your lazy ass!!!
Now, I know this is another harsh response, so hopefully I wont get banned for helping some jokester move back to Cali, get arrested, convicted and plastered all over the news as a med grower, put in one of our real nice correctional facilitys and butt raped by the bad boys doin time for real shit!! If I can help one idiot stay outta jail it is worth it...

 

[inflorescence]

so hopefully I wont get banned for helping some jokester move back to Cali, get arrested, convicted and plastered all over the news as a med grower, put in one of our real nice correctional facilitys and butt raped by the bad boys doin time for real shit!! If I can help one idiot stay outta jail it is worth it...

lol lol

 

[irconfused]

Well heres my take, having worked at and sold to clubs.

As others have said you cannot just walk into a club with some product and sell it. Think of it from their perspective, some person they don't know walks into their store offering to sell ounces/pounds, for all they know you are dea.

You will need to build up a relationship with the place, come in and buy a bit here and there, build up a decent comfort level before even thinking of bringing up anything to do with you growing/selling etc. I would also suggest trying out multiple places, if you are only growing one strain you will probably need to sell to more than one place, depending on the size of the place they may want to buy anything from a few O's to a few pounds.


I'm not sure where you are and really what you would consider decent weed, but odds are it is nowhere near what clubs are expecting. If you have anything less than outstanding stuff odds are you won't even be able to get rid of it. As good as your grow is going shit happens, and with only half an indoor grow odds are pretty good something will go wrong with a big grow of finnikey elites.


Yes you can get caught, and don't think for one second you can have a large op with one rec and say its all yours and you will sell the rest to the club. If you are going to be growing more than one persons worth the safest thing to do would be getting yourself designated as peoples primary caregiver. While the plant count rules got thrown out they are still a safe guideline, so 6 flowering per rec.


One thing you never mentioned was how many watts you are thinking of using, you could have 100 plants under 1 light if you wanted to, or fill up a warehouse, so that doesn't give that great of an idea.


So yes you technically can do it, but there are so many things that could go wrong and leave you completely fucked, as is often the case.

 

[Able Mind]

you gonna need a local associate to help u gather intell (recon) before anything. and most important of all is respect;respect other sellers/growers territory

 

[kmk420kali]

I don't know how I feel about someone making money off of someone else's illness. Whether that person is sick or not, making money off the ill is shady. Why not grow that weed and give it away to the thousands of patients that cannot pay for it? Or are you just business? People in CA do not need anyone else coming in and profiting off of the ill, whether or not you are providing meds. Do it for free or is the idea of helping people without return too much? I have watched this thread, hoping it would be closed. This had nothing to do with medical marijuana, this has to do with how to start up a business. If you say no, then I cannot believe you. The amount of plants and matter you would have to sell to pay rent, etc would be enormous. Like I previously said, do it for free - the law is about compassion not commerce.

Let me say, I don't care how much you grow, or where you grow but why use the defense of medical marijuana to support a cleary commercial situation. If you want to be commercial than do it, but leave it out of these forums.

Bro...nothing but respect for your opinion...but this is exactly what I was talking about earlier in this thread--
First off...why should commercial growing be left out of this forum?? Do you think that the two hundred and something (edit* thousand) patients in Cali alone...are being provided with their meds by ppl only growing 6 plants or less?? Seriously man...the laws have been changing...but the attitudes stay the same--
How are you going to give meds away for free?? Do you pay for lights? Electricity? Or if you are outdoors...how much $$ do you have tied up in supplies...nutes, time, effort, drying, curing, trimming??
It is not free to grow, and it is just not possible for all patients to grow their own--
Commercial Growers (Not to be confused with Cartels!!) are getting a bad rap...and don't even have the backing of the ppl they are supplying--

 

[00420]

im sure you could put my crops up against anything over there

2nd mistake


1st was making this thread
dont talk about it..... if you have friend that are doing it then you all ready know the answer to the ?

BTW,
i been growing in cali for 8-9 years now.... and not no 400 watts 5-6 plant crop and my shit dont touch some of the dank i see in clubs but kill's 50% of it....

dont come here to hide under a med law for a cash crop .... this is why dea is raiding ppl becouse of ppl like you

i have huge grows but there multi med user's not one cent is made in profit

 

[Rainman]

Exactly how it should be!

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

^ my county sheriffs got cross sworn as dea/ins/?? recently there was an article in the newspaper lately. now they cruise around in fucking hummers, fucking hummers which are probably bulletproof and take hundreds of dollars of gas to drive around to bust closet grows and pick up dayworkers from home depot, give me a fucking break, o yeah its in cali, and they love to fuck with growers and smokers, that being said i still grow but I still act like what im doing is completly illegal. If moving back to cali, for a grow op best bet would be to start small, 12-24 plants then move bigger once the logistics of everything is worked out

well put dude...

ive seen my share of DEA agents around Oc/CALI, ill usualy abandon what im doing and follow them around, you know, just counter-inteligince. unfortunately nothing intresting to report.

 

[PharmaCan]

Well heres my take, having worked at and sold to clubs.

As others have said you cannot just walk into a club with some product and sell it. Think of it from their perspective, some person they don't know walks into their store offering to sell ounces/pounds, for all they know you are dea.

You will need to build up a relationship with the place, come in and buy a bit here and there, build up a decent comfort level before even thinking of bringing up anything to do with you growing/selling etc. I would also suggest trying out multiple places, if you are only growing one strain you will probably need to sell to more than one place, depending on the size of the place they may want to buy anything from a few O's to a few pounds.


I'm not sure where you are and really what you would consider decent weed, but odds are it is nowhere near what clubs are expecting. If you have anything less than outstanding stuff odds are you won't even be able to get rid of it. As good as your grow is going shit happens, and with only half an indoor grow odds are pretty good something will go wrong with a big grow of finnikey elites.


Yes you can get caught, and don't think for one second you can have a large op with one rec and say its all yours and you will sell the rest to the club. If you are going to be growing more than one persons worth the safest thing to do would be getting yourself designated as peoples primary caregiver. While the plant count rules got thrown out they are still a safe guideline, so 6 flowering per rec.


One thing you never mentioned was how many watts you are thinking of using, you could have 100 plants under 1 light if you wanted to, or fill up a warehouse, so that doesn't give that great of an idea.


So yes you technically can do it, but there are so many things that could go wrong and leave you completely fucked, as is often the case.

NorCal - This is some pretty good advice, although I disagree a little with the quality comments. While the D's won't be buying any mexischwag, there is a demand for medium grade product as long as it is reflected in the price. Keep in mind though that medium quality med mj would probably be considered chronic on the streets. (I honestly wouldn't know. I haven't bought street weed for over 20 years.)

Starting your own business is a tough row to hoe, regardless of the type of business. Be smart, be well funded, have a good business plan. There are many sources for generic advice on establishing a business plan. I'll assume you're intelligent enough do your homework in that regard and not belabor the point.

Selling your product: ...is pretty easy really. Here in California you need to get a licensed doctor's prescription/recommendation (Rx) to use/grow mmj. There are a limited number of doctors who specialize in mmj, so you make an appointment with one. Before going to the Doc, you print up a couple leaflets for your "$10/gram co-op. You will also a need a "Co-operative Growing Agreement" of some kind for the patients to sign. Spend a few hours outside the Docs office and you should be able to accumulate enough legitimate MMJ patients that you can not only cover your plant count, but you can also easily dispose of a good deal of MMJ at a price that is a screaming deal for both of you. In addition to the members of your co-op, you should also consider selling to delivery services. By the very nature of that business, you have two people in neutral surroundings with maybe a pound at the most, so it's a pretty safe environment for both parties and the delivery services are more prone to do business with strangers than a D might be.

Plant count and secrecy are paramount! While you need members for your co-op so that you have enough Rx's on hand to cover your plant count, you don't want the whole damn world to know what you are doing AND, in the event of a bust, you want a few plants as possible. A six-plant, 1,000 watt scrog, dialed in, will yield 2-3 lbs every two months (or so). If you do the math, you can see that you could start with a relatively small grow and still produce a sustainable income. Keep in mind that, if you want to grow commercial you will probably want mother plants and cloning facilities, and you have to get all that stuff dialed in, so you will have your work cut out for you and a large crop could well be unmanageable.

...just my $.02

Good luck!

PC

 

[kmk420kali]

Hey there Kali, I agree that some commercial grows are supplying these clubs but more likely in rural areas where the heat may not be felt. In the urban sector it will be hard to maintain that amount of plants he is planning without getting caught. Like a previous poster said, then you have this guys face on the local new growing 100 plants, NO JOB, under the defense of medical necessity. All that is fine but the public, ie. DA's, local enforcement, politicians and most importantly the public will not go for this and we both know that. It is already hard enough for a small grower complying with the unconstitutional SB420 law to make it by. For example, the mendo county vote is aimed at commercial growers but it only affects the small time person. Do not think that I don't appreciate people's hard work to supply to clubs, but from Norcal's post it seems that he is simply in it for business. Compassion should not equal commerce, even if that is how it currently is. I do understand it costs quite a large sum of money to even grow one plant properly, but how many times have you not had that cash for medicine. Or, when was the last time you walked into a dispensary and people cannot afford these prices even as low as 30 and 1/8.

I understand that this may be idealistic but CA patients need to start helping other CA patients, not looking to make a living off their necessity for medicine. In fact there is a post a few down from this one from SCF requesting low cost or free medicine for patients, then you have this one asking how to make money off these people. Its a fucked up situation but we can change it by forgetting our greed and opening our hearts.

We can all respectfully disagree, as long as its respectful. Thank you for your time. Grow safe and good health to you all!

Haha...my bad bro....I got started on the Commercial Grower thing...and lost sight of the topic....you are right, it would not be smart to come fresh to Cali and start a major grow....gotta feel it out a bit first....make some connections with ppl that are doing it....gain some experience--

 

[The Bling]

1. 99 plants wont get you enough
heres how you do it

rent a 1br house with a decent yard like 6000 sft lot or so in so cal
put a 1k mh in the bedroom on a light mover put some moms under it
start cloning move them to put tons of organic topsoil worms and compost in the yard pound rebar in the ground every 5 ft at a 45 deg angle put pvc on it and get 2 of those huge silver tarps
when you have like a hundred clones put them out cover em up for 12 hours a day when theyre done u have a hundred new plants that have veged for like 60 days


also


heres my new idea guys



tell me how you like it

OLD f-250 fill the bed with soil and build plywood sides corrugated plastic roof and a 50 gallon water drum in the back seat no one and move it every few days looks like a mexicans work truck bbut its full of weeds hahahahah

 

[Dr.Kevorkian]

hippy you the man. fuck the police follow those bitches...

 

[G33k Speak]

I don't know how I feel about someone making money off of someone else's illness. Whether that person is sick or not, making money off the ill is shady. ....

Does your doctor work for free?
What about the hospital staff
Ambulance drivers and EMT's??
Do any of them work for free?

I just don't see your comments as being realistic.
If a person can devote themselves to producing a quailty service or product at an affordable price, he should be able to make a living at it.

 

[Whatever]

I don't know how I feel about someone making money off of someone else's illness.

Bottom line is many are not interested in growing, can't or are just not interested in taking the risk...and they are gonna get canna from where...thin air? Give me a frikkin break. Nothing wrong with being a ganja farmer and sustaining yourself...nothing.

What the community needs are people willing to take the risk and supply QUALITY canna at a reasonable rate to get rid of those just interested in making money off it.

What do you think will happen if it ever becomes truly legal? Large ops running acres outside and the price will drop to almost nothing...looking forward to that day actually. Farmers will end up making the same $ many 'decent' scale organic food growers get these days...and that ain't the high life...lol.

i have huge grows but there multi med user's not one cent is made in profit

Fantastic to see the rest of your life is together to the point where you can do that.

Some good advice in this thread and some utter bullshit personal opinions and judgments.

 

[inflorescence]

Does your doctor work for free?
What about the hospital staff
Ambulance drivers and EMT's??
Do any of them work for free?

No, but then again they don't work for a co-operative.

So many people are throwing around the word dispensaries these days that they forgot that 215 really just allows for co-operatives.

Calling a modern day dispensary a co-operative these days is a joke and an insult to the founders of 215 and sick patients everywhere.