How To Make A.F. Plants With C. Ruderalis ??...e.g AutoCheese!

[FirstTracks]

i'd like to step in with the correction that only a few select phenos of MM are actually true AFs, while some are just extremely photoperiod sensitive. if starting from seed, finding and isolating a true af mm can be a challenge in itself as it might take a few packs to find a suitable male and female. once the true af male and female MM's are found, it would be wise to make an f2 generation to isolate this trait and have plently of seeds available for breeding the several generations it is going to take to get a stable AF cross if crossing with a non AF plant.

I had an old thread on this over here in which there were a few discussions about mightymite
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=66106&highlight=photo+period+sensitive

 

[bigbag]

FirstTracks,
are you one of the breeders of mighty mite from Lesquiti?like i said todays examples of mighty mite are hit and miss.the pre '98 mighty mite was always done by mid august and was considered impractical to clone.the real pre '98 mighty mite topped out @ 4 oz's per plant max.....and was always finished by mid-late august,most time earlier.if your mighty mites are over 4ft tall,produce more than a QP,or finish in september......they arent the og mighty mite.why do u think they named it mighty mite anyway?lol

 

[FirstTracks]

FirstTracks,
are you one of the breeders of mighty mite from Lesquiti?like i said todays examples of mighty mite are hit and miss.the pre '98 mighty mite was always done by mid august and was considered impractical to clone.the real pre '98 mighty mite topped out @ 4 oz's per plant max.....and was always finished by mid-late august,most time earlier.if your mighty mites are over 4ft tall,produce more than a QP,or finish in september......they arent the og mighty mite.why do u think they named it mighty mite anyway?lol

bigbag: my location and occupation is of no consequence to you, though for discussion's sake let's assume I'm not a breeder of MM from lesquiti. and let me now ask, are you a lawyer from ontario? :wink:

maybe 'correction' was too strong or offensive a word to use. would 'ammendment' or 'addition' be a more suitable word?

let me clarify. i was not questioning your experience or knowledge regarding the cultivar in question. my comment was merely to inform the OP (and other readers)that many examples of so called mighty mite are not, in fact, of the autoflowering variety. while these may not be the 'OG' mighty mite, some breeders do not bother to clarify this to the customer.

i believe my comment is accurate in that of the commercially available seedlines, one must often select certain individuals, and not just any individual, from a ten pack (or more) ro find an accurate representation of autoflowering mighty mite. That is not to say there are not vendors of true 100% af MM out there, only that some vendors do not clarify to the customer whether or not this is the case.

your historical and recent knowledge of MM and its varieties are much appreciated bigbag. it is always nice to have individuals such as yourself with information like this. Keep sharing!

be well

 

[bigbag]

didnt mean to come off sounding like a prick(or lawyer...same diff,lol).it does get my goat that there a larger/later flowering version of MM,thanks to imo,good ol'Marc Emery.i stand by my statement that the og Lesquiti island Mighty Mite is a single cola,90-120 day seedline.nowadays its a 6 ft,5oz yielder,whatever.i suppose one must consider the source

 

[Greens]

Breederbrad still has the pure autoflower mighty mite going on. It's very different from the one being sold by MMSC and others today. I think he's doing a breeding project with it this summer. Actually, I still have some of these seeds kicking around too. You can see some pics of brad's mighty mite in Thor's outdoor thread and I think I have some in my gallery too from a few years ago. It's the same mighty mite used by Jaysprout in his mighty freeze and mighty durban.

Bigbag, I think Brad's mighty mite came from you originally!

Greens

 

[bigbag]

yeah it did.i blame todays version of MM on Emery.at one time he was selling all kinds of seeds under the MMSC heading.the quality control just wasnt there.i have seen and grown the larger/later flowering version and believe its a cross at best.more than likely an afghani or similar.remember when MMSC had like 50 crosses circa 2000?that was the era when the genepool got pissed in.my version actually came from the Lesquiti crew in the mid 90's.it was designed to be short and fast,as the Gulf Islands get more airial surviellance than anywhere(except maybe Hawaii).

 

[englishrick]

so mm is a winner??.....so do you think i should do a mm incross to load up my guys in spain....they want somethin easy an auto??

 

[mdanzig]

Mighty Mite is NOT a true AF hybrid.

 

[mdanzig]

It will flower at 18/6, but not at 24/0.

 

[chubbynugs]

Doesnt it take three crosses to stabilize the af gene? Pollen from an af male to the female you want croseed. Then grow those seeds and pollinate with an af male only the female seedlings that show af traits such as sexing quickly under 24/0. Then you grow out that next generation and cross only the af males and females that show in that batch. After that all the seeds should technically be af right?

 

[Brad]

It will flower at 18/6, but not at 24/0.

not true, my version defintly flowers under 24/0,seen it happen many,many times, as it is the og MM, not pissed on by emery

 

[englishrick]

i hate this problem with MM!!.....i knew mdanzig would say its not a true AF...i heared it from him before!!....

thanks for being on my thered man!!....ive got respect for your knolage and work.!!

im lookin for the 18/6 AF....id love to find a good mother in a load of beans....im never going to be able to afforde a package big enough while this one is so miss matched!!

or does someone have a good one so i can make 100`s of beans "easy" from a trusted mom and dad!!...

i think i need somethin like a landrace like AF......powerplant/durben/redbeird/afgani....somethin hardy,tasty,good size calax with good trics too!!....

i feel like im dreamin of somethin that aint possible to get.....MM sounds good tho!!...you usa outdoor guys are a different breed to us indoor tec guys!!....im learnin all over again!!

 

[Greens]

Yeah, Brad's mighty mite (The version I have) is a true autoflowering plant. Even some of our GGs autoflower under 24 hours of light, but most don't until they are under 18/6. Some people are confused because they've only tried the version of mighty mite from MMSC (Emery).

Hehe, we are Canadian outdoor growers actually. Brad and I are both very experienced both indoors and out too.

 

[mdanzig]

Ive heard that Breeder Brad was working on Mighty Mite. My good friend S_a_H has grown it out many times. It will begin to flower at 18/6, but will go back into veg at 24/0.

 

[englishrick]

nice....are there any decent pick`s of mm....how does it compare to ML, DR, BS an ofcorse lowR & lowR2

can someone put up a selection of picks ....please

 

[Greens]

Ive heard that Breeder Brad was working on Mighty Mite. My good friend S_a_H has grown it out many times. It will begin to flower at 18/6, but will go back into veg at 24/0.

Are you talking about S a H growing Brad's version? I don't know, I've just seen it flower so many times under 24 hours of light.

englishrick, I think I have a few pics of mighty mite from outside. Compared to those other strains, well, it's way more potent than lowrider. There's no comparison. However, I tried master wonder skunk (master low x early wonder skunk), which was more potent than the MM.

 

[englishrick]

im lookin for something that forms up real easy....and has a decent taste,,,

wich one is MM??....

im a little scared of getting into plants that yeald 12-15 grams each....im a little short of insperation an trust too...

 

[bigbag]

mdanzig,thats prolly just a bit diff version and or pheno than the og MM of the 80's from the gulf islands growers.the modern versions are quite likely a little(or alot)diff.it was never that great on its own,imo but does great in crosses.to be honest we never really grew them under light for vary long.MM is an outdoor strain,but some do grow indoors.now i want to get MM seeds from diff sources and see how much the seedline has changed.im sure alot of them are MM x Afghani or something similar

 

[englishrick]

so is it a strong contender to go outdoors for a noob.....and taste decent!

 

[Greens]

englishrick, yeah, all those pics are of mighty mite. They were neglected all year, but still they yield between a half ounce and one ounce on average. I've grown a two ouncer of MM before. It's not a big yielder, that's for sure. MM tastes kinda minty and piney. Not as good as freezeland, but still pretty good.

I need a short season variety to grow here, but I have been relying on my guerilla golds because they are more potent, better taste/smell, and larger yielders than MM. I don't mind harvesting end of August to early september instead of early August. You can find lots of pics in my gallery.

Greens