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(Dark) green leaves at harvest time?! Come on guys, stop overfeeding & flush fully

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zoolander

Bulldog, you are like the old high school quaterback that cant get over his glory days. OG this OG that. You say you want to teach people and then go about it the way you do. Best of luck to you and may you score a touchdown again one day. It will be just like the movie the longest yard, You can get the old team back together LOL Peace :laughing:
 
W

Whatever

I figured that's what the response would be and that's fine. Yes I've had weed like Ty's but not organic. I've grown stuff like the poster boy's pics, just playin, when using PBP in a soilless mix. These pics are about a week before cutting. I was like 'I fugged' up cause they didn't finish how I wanted but my buddy said don't worry and he was right. At first I thought he was full of it. Don't know about point of reference cause that would have to be an organic reference and have had very little true organic weed. My buddies, some who've been smoking for 30 years, sampled and said awesome. Some found it's way to a senior editor at a pot mag and the feedback was the same and there was a request to submit an article about the strain. I passed a lot around to seasoned smokers and not one person said anything about off flavors or harshness...none. The only thing I can say is that's my experience. Would I prefer they finish differently? Yes...that's my goal. There's a round going right now, at week 3, and I top dressed less and backed off on a few other things. I had a pH issue first round which mucked a few things up but got that under control.
 
B

British_Bulldog

LOL zoolander, you've just given me the best laugh of today, thanks, lol

The difference is between me and the old high school quarterback reminiscing is that he'll never play again, and I haven't said I've retired, I'm still young and have lots of time ahead of me (hopefully, lol).

Do I have lots still to learn? Yes of course, but dialling in a plant, I know about that.

Can I produce better than my best? I doubt it, as I put a lot of effort into it, and I reached the peak of what's possible I think....and I've seen what's possible back on OG.

And yes, OG's finished, but for me it was finished in 2002/3 anyway. However, for those who were around before then, would have seen the outstanding pics being shown by masters showing off.

Why shouldn't I compare the 2 sites? Well why not? OG doesn't exist anymore, but the bar can be raised at ICMag too, and why shouldn't I encourage that?
 
B

British_Bulldog

Ok Whatever, now you have your point of reference with these plants, and you can see how they improve when you learn them and dial them in properly.

I look forward to your smoke reports.


Peace
 

caljim

I'm on the edge. Of what I'm not sure.
Veteran
Man, I can barely fit into this thread w/ British Bulldogs ego in here. lol
 
Z

zoolander

You must have the OG tatoo AKA the sign of the beast for Bulldog to like you. LOL :laughing: He means well he just needs to go about it in a better way
 
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barletta

Bandaid
Veteran
Food for the fire - 1. Easy on the N in flower to begin with. 2. No more N once the plant stops drinking aggressively. 3. No more anything from 1 week later till harvest. If a plant starts dying early (losing a whole fan or more a day more than a week before harvest), I foliar with kelp/liquid karma. I haven't lost yield since I stopped pumping nutes, and I try to have the plant use/lose all of the fans below the cola. If the sugar leaves start to go, I could have fed another week or so.
 

B.C.

Non Conformist
Veteran
The Iceman said:
what a negative vibe this thread has...lame
Ya man, it reminds me of the good ol days at OG ! LOL!!! aah well, I gave it my best shot. Good luck yall ! Take care... BC
 

Jacksparrow

Member
zoolander said:
Bulldog, you are like the old high school quaterback that cant get over his glory days. OG this OG that. You say you want to teach people and then go about it the way you do. Best of luck to you and may you score a touchdown again one day. It will be just like the movie the longest yard, You can get the old team back together LOL Peace :laughing:


Reminds me more of Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite constantly obsessing about the glory days when he could ,"throw a football 1/4 mile." or "How much you wanna bet I can throw a football over them mountains?"

@op
Sure sitting on a high horse with a lot of nothing in the holsters imo.

IMO coming on here and bashing all the plants these guys are showing ,when they clearly have put love and sweat into them is just lame. Your message may have valid information but the way in which you are presenting it makes me ignore you. (I was a master jedi back in 84 and I just dont carry my lightsaber anymore but you should still listen to my judgment simply because I say so........ )

One thing I will thank you for is you created this thread and I've learned a few things from other people posting in here.
 
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TGT

Tom 'Green' Thumb
Veteran
I have to say, I have been around since the old OG days and yes there were a lot of good growers there, but I see just as many here that are as talented and experienced. There's quite a few growers here that I respect and learn from still, and I have been growing for many years now. I agree that OG was a great site, but honestly now that I am here I don't miss it quite as much. I miss all the friends I had made, but this site is as good as any. Just thought I'd say my part because I think it should be known that there are many growers here that truely know there stuff and have much to teach.

TGT
 

FOE20

Parthenocarpe Diem
ICMag Donor
Veteran
fight Fire...with Fire...all plants are different ..their like women..ya never know whatcha gana get till you get their pants off...
heres some of my weak attempts at growing..But Im a Chef so I'd be more offended if someone insulted my Glazed broiled Chilean Sea bass..

btw...what is OG?.......lmao.....its history...thats what it is..
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lilo

Member
zoolander, why don't you stop trolling and let people discuss the matter without your ego posts on here.
 
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British_Bulldog

barletta said:
Food for the fire - 1. Easy on the N in flower to begin with. 2. No more N once the plant stops drinking aggressively. 3. No more anything from 1 week later till harvest. If a plant starts dying early (losing a whole fan or more a day more than a week before harvest), I foliar with kelp/liquid karma. I haven't lost yield since I stopped pumping nutes, and I try to have the plant use/lose all of the fans below the cola. If the sugar leaves start to go, I could have fed another week or so.

Barletta, your methodology and pic show me you have the right idea, and are doing well, keep up the good work.

You've highlighted a good point, that you don't lose yield from doing this, you end up with better smoke, and spend less on nutrients.


To all the haters: hate if you like, but it's you who's suffering from doing so, using up your energy hating, because to me it's like water off a duck's back.

I notice you've not said anything constructive regarding overfeeding and/or underflushing? Now that's lame to me, coming into someone's thread and posting about the poster and not about the content of the post :-/

You ignore me, fair enough, and I ignore your lame comments.

I will try to find some pics as well, to demonstrate "my worth" to you, as you seem to attach a lot of value to that, although I don't see how it's necessary.

I did purge my hard drive and CDs before I left England, as I went by car and crossed about 5 or 6 international borders and didn't want grow pics.

I should have stored some in cyberspace, it's true, but I will have a good look. The problem is I'm very thorough and I may not be able to, but I'll try.

If I do manage to find some, what you'll see is a perfect finish: all the nutes used up, huge buds and sometimes wonderful autumn colours due to lower night temps.
 

TGT

Tom 'Green' Thumb
Veteran
Are you sure you got the right guy?

Fo20, that Herijuanna photo looks like a real impressive strain. Is that a cut that is going around or is she from seed? Nice pictures!

TGT
 

FOE20

Parthenocarpe Diem
ICMag Donor
Veteran
hey TGT...its from motarebels stock pocket...he got his stock from Woodhorse..
That plant was in a cold spot and was a lil P pushed and had a few tests run on her..It did have a rather well coating of resins and it was a mixed Ind dom phenom..went 10wks in DWC solo bucket with PBP fed under 500ppm thru bloom...

hmm..The BritishBullDog.....that was a wrestler in the 70/80's wasnt it?...back in the day with Jimmy"supa Fly"Snooka and Baron Von Raschke.
I dont really have a prob with much you've said..I'll just say even wise men become humble at some point..Whats the best is you really are teaching folks to do right..wether they want to take the time or not..
Be virtuous...
FOE20
 

friction2k

Member
FOE20 said:
hmm..The BritishBullDog.....that was a wrestler in the 70/80's wasnt it?

OMGZ AHTUM LEEFZ PLZZZ
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British_Bulldog

LoL, resorted to personal insults eh? Keep it on topic please & yeah, after I registered the name I realised the coincidence that there was a wrestler by that name as well.

The actual reference is to the breed of dog:


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W

Whatever

Ok Whatever, now you have your point of reference with these plants, and you can see how they improve when you learn them and dial them in properly.
Yeah...I've worked with this strain for 2 years now. The green organic plants from the first run done that way have been the best yet...even beat my flushed GH and AN grown plants...that's my point but not saying it's the norm. Both the GH and AN programs were dialed in programs I got from commercial growers. Of course it's gonna get better as I get the organics dialed in. The room I deal with now is only 2600 watts, the previous one was 4800 watts. The current room is really my buddy's but I basically tell him everything to do while he's learning. Basically I'm doing it but his hands do the actual work...lol. I grew full time for 3 years, indoors and out, and helped a lot of other people also. True organics is a different animal regarding flushing. That's my experience.
 
B

British_Bulldog

FOE20 said:
BritishBullDog
I dont really have a prob with much you've said..I'll just say even wise men become humble at some point..


I am humble Foe, and I explained on the page before how my plants haven't been properly fed and underflushed in the past too.

I have also stated I have much to learn about other things too.

The thing is, if I know how they should look, and then see them like they are on here every day: I'm sorry but I'm not the type of person who can hold back forever, and had to finally say something.

I didn't want to drop it like Ty-Stik did in his 1st post, but I wanted to get the message across with enough weight that people would take notice, and in doing so help them with their grows.

I know I would and did appreciate it back in the day.


FOE20 said:
Whats the best is you really are teaching folks to do right..wether they want to take the time or not..
Be virtuous...

That's an interesting way to look at it
 
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