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Pops

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Sub, you are correct on Apollo. Genius and Cindy are sisters(brothers) Anyway it was an incest type relationship. Apollo 11 was Genius x Cindy 99 and Apollo 13 was Genius x Princess88(mother of Cindy 99).
 
jus cut down a couple ogka/pre98bubba/church ... not SD strains... but SD GROWN!!! :headbange i get pics up tomrowo. shit looks aMaZiNg>> don care waht none say.. the GH is GOOOLD :jump:
 
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"I've been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the "Cinderella Story", so here it is: In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ "Sensi Smile" coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn't expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call "Princess". Therefore Princess' mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant. I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe'Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process. The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is "Cinderella 99", a cubed version of Princess. The name "Cinderella" was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It's also VERY similar to the story of the "Morgan Horse"...go Figure


I ALWAYS see preflowers between the age of 4 and 6 weeks. Node 6 is commonly where they start, so I'd say you're probably seeing them. The plants that show first are usually males. Look over each plant carefully, using a loupe. If you see a preflower at such an early age, it'll most likely be male, but be SURE before culling it. If you can't find a preflower on a plant, while most of the others HAVE shown... it's most likely a female. Isn't that uniformity NICE? Cinderella 99 is a STABLE strain. Cinderella 88 was close, but this generation is there.

(Cinderella needs odor control?) I don't know if it helps you, but the scent is very sweet and fruity. It won't "fool" anyone who's familiar with MJ, but the average person might not recognize the scent as pot. They start to smell after 3 weeks of 12/12 and they're harvested 4 weeks later, so the SHORT flowering cycle helps a bit by lessening the amount of time your garden "stinks".

Yields are highly Dependant on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. I get about 2 lbs every 50 days under 2kW. I grow a combination of bushes and single-cola clones (about 12-20 of 'em) in 2 gallon pots of organic soil, feeding them "teas" of dissolved worm castings, PSG, high phosphorus bat guano and kelp meal. My yields are average at best. Professional growers write me saying they get 2lbs/kW, which I'm sure is true.

The scent given off by Cinderella is NOT the typical "pot stench"...not at all skunky -she's sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. C-99 is more "psychedelic"... I think that's what you're looking for eh? Just be sure to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more...it's easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.

Haze is my favourite high. Very "trippy" C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high and each time I back-cross to her the next generation gets a bit more of it. Smoking PURE Princess buds is a bit scary... it's too "speedy" and paranoia-inducing for most people. But she's so RESINOUS (see photo) and her flavour is just so delicious and fruity that I knew back-crossing her to her offspring over several generations would create a strain which is actually BETTER than the original mother in terms of a more PLEASING high. It was successful beyond my expectations.

The progression I went through was: P.50 = Princess/(ShivaSkunk/Princess'Brother) P.75 = Princess/P.50 Cinderella 88 = Princess/P.75 Cinderella 99 = Princess/Cinderella 88 Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is "TRIP WEED" with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess. C-99 will be a bigger yielder and faster finisher (than D/T) - which I personally think makes more sense to begin a grow with. If you're growing under 1000W lamps, you should easily get a pound of C-99 per lamp after a 7 week flowering period. When you have all the weed you need and can take your time waiting for a long-flowering Sativa, THEN start those "extra" beans (included in your order)... I don't know what the Bros Grimm sent you, but it's NOT Durban/Thai. I'm still developing it, so they won't see it for about 6 months.

Thanks for noticing her she IS beautiful! Cafe'Girl is a sister of "Princess" - Princess is the mother of the Cinderella series. Cafe'Girl smells like a combination of ginger, orange and cream... kinda smells like a "Creamsicle" -you know those ice cream bars? She has the highest YIELD of the 3 Sisters (Princess, Genius and Cafe'Girl). Cafe'Girl makes HUGE, DENSE, SPARKLING buds with a lovely high. A really sweet high, in that you never feel paranoid and it continues to "creep up" over the first 15 minutes after you smoke, leaving you feeling warm and at peace with life. Bros Grimm may offer an hybrid of Cafe'Girl when enough testing of her offspring has been completed.

Sure, I'd be glad to answer your q's: 1. I flower clones when they're about a foot tall and they double in height during flowering. 2. They clone SUPER EASY. 3. Crossing Cindy 88's will you a variety of phenotypes... they're not stable. Cindy 99 IS STABLE. 4. The seeds are small, tan in colour and "speckled" not striped. If you ordered from either Bros.Grimm or Heaven's Stairway you WON'T get ripped off...but I'll describe the plants: As seedlings they're fast-growing, Indica-dominant with fairly wide leaves. They show preflowers @ 5-6 weeks old WITHOUT FAIL. They NEVER herm, so if the pre-flowers have pistils, it's FEMALE forever. They flower RAPIDLY - you probably won't believe how fat and dense and frosty they'll be @ 4-5 weeks 12/12. The flower/leaf is EXTREMELY high; the tops of the colas go NUTS at about 5 weeks into flowering, sending braid-like floral cluster projections out in all directions without any leaves. Just before that happens, hundreds of SNOW WHITE pistils make the tip of the colas look like they're wearing fur caps! The resin production is HEAVY (again, you won't believe it), a HEAVENLY scent of tropical fruit and berries begins to fill the room @ 3 weeks of 12/12 and just keeps getting more overpowering 'til they're done. The finished smoke is the type of high that keeps you UP; it's very cerebral - the only body effect is the "jitters". I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone looking to "mellow out" on the sofa, BUT if you wanted to smoke before going running or cycling - PERFECT! I smoked C-88 one eve after trying Silver Haze and the C-88 buzz cut RIGHT THROUGH the high of the Haze so badly that my wife asked me, "what did you do?... smoke too much?" The flavour is just like the scent; fruity and sweet...not at all hashy (not that there's anything WRONG with that!...heehee. Outdoors, Apollo 13 and Cinderella 88 will finish before October 15th at 43 degrees north latitude.
 
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Theres some of what's up in my patch
 

subrob

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tev-thanks for the post-really cleared things up, but shit, now i want cindy!

cabbage-beautiful sight man
 
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Here ya go Sub...a bit of Madness for ya...this is the larger cut I got from a friend and went into a 6" pot of soil with a layer of Peace of Mind 5-5-5 on the bottom then just water. I cut off the bottom 1/3rd and gonna try some clones but on the fly improvise with materials on hand and don't think they'll make it. It's been topped and in a few weeks I'll be better prepared to take a bunch of cuts. I'm probably gonna put some outside then late summer hack em up for cuts before they flower.

I like it so far. The smaller one is gonna get flowered and the one in the pic is the mom. The mom will get vegged under a 1000 along with the other cuts in the garden for about a month so should be a monster before I put her outside early May then look out...heh heh. I'll update when something interesting to show.
 
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subrob

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theres my girl! cannot wait to see how you do with her bro! update soon!....sub
 
ermmmm.. yah smell taht. flowers in season>> :headbange

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Doco

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Sorry for the terrible pics but here is my Cindy at 3.5 weeks, and just starting to sugar up. Ill get some more without the yellow HPS tomorrow. I originally grew out several plants from Female Seeds NL and have had the mother for over a year now - it is some of my favorite smoke. Pineapple grapefruit smell and taste that only gets better with curing. Last time I took cuts I put out an local ad and spread the love - now many folks in SD have this excellent example of the Bros. Grimm stock. Moderate yields but a creative, soaring, social buzz that you won't soon forget.

Unfortunately I am rotating it out of the mother cabinet and am flowering the mom along with these clones. Going to focus on SD local strains and need the room.

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OsWiZzLe

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I just spoke to APE :headbange everything is fine and i need to decide between his God Bud....SSH....New Purple Queen Pheno....New Sensi Star Pheno..

I need cuts now or I'd wait for MAddness and company...but those are 4-6 weeks out
 
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TheStarJacqui

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OsWiZzLe said:
I just spoke to APE :headbange everything is fine and i need to decide between his God Bud....SSH....New Purple Queen Pheno....New Sensi Star Pheno..

I need cuts now or I'd wait for MAddness and company...but those are 4-6 weeks out

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praisehim.

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oz : can i make a suggestion ? i picked up a few different strains from ape.. an no doubts here... ssh is the shit ! i havent had the meds yet but as far as growing it... its a privelage. its one of the most vigorous plants i've ever came across. i had ten in 4 inch coco pots for 4 weeks under t'5s.. they grew to about 7 inches, then i transplanted them into 2.5 gallons an they grew about another foot in about 6 days... crazy fast. highly recommend it.
 

OsWiZzLe

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i've grown APE's SSH its a bad ass plant no doubt! Let me correct myself...its God's Gift APE has....not God Bud....i'm going nuts trying to figure out which one to grab
 

praisehim.

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gods gift=nice gift..haha. sensi stars not bad either but... i'd go with the god... its more unique of a strain in my opinion. i'll be throwin some pics up for SD real soon !...
 

Pops

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Any of you guys know anything about the L.A. Confidential or sour O.G.KusH? I have clones coming tomorrow and need to know flower times. I have too damn many strains and don't know whether to keep them. I am dropping 6-8 strains in order to have space to look at landrace strains, trying to find a high CBD med strain. I have seeds from SCBB x Kandahar, Czech Ruderalis and Chinese Yunnan Indicas already here, with land race Mazar-i-sherif coming, and possibly some Moroccan hashplant seeds. Too many strains...too little time...too little space!

I think the L.A. Confidential is supposed to be some kind of O.G. Kush crossed with an afghan.
 
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