DJ shorts True Blueberry derived from same as Dutch Passions?

[chimei]

A few months back I picked up 2 packs of DJ's beans. A pack of original BB and a pack of True BB.

Previous to all of this a couple years ago I grew out a pack of 10 Dutch Passion BB.

The DJ orig blueberry (of what I have grown so far) grew well, no mutants like I experienced with the Dutch Passion BB. Got unlucky though and had all males.

So this time around I started 4 of each, orig and True bb.

With the True BB it seems like deja vue.

These seem identical to the Dutch Passion BB's I grew before. All 4 of them have molten leaves (I don't know what to call it - where it looks like the leaves have ripples in weird spots and something like a skin condition) They are very stretchy homely looking things. (The orig BB's are looking fine like the previous, just hoping for some females)

Are DJ shorts true BB's just repackaged DP BB?

Anyone else grow out DP BB and True BB and see much similarity?

Thanks

 

[XyZ]

Are DJ shorts true BB's just repackaged DP BB?

absolutely N0 ...and also not the other way around... read through the forum and you should find the right answer (which is simple - Dj owns the blues & dp sucks from a little piece of cake

 

[chimei]

I thought the time line goes something like this:

---|-------------|--------------|------- present day
DJ OBB DP BB DJ TB

I have heard bits and pieces here that at some point DP worked with DJ on their BB line, other rumors that something was copied, I can't recall for sure.

Is my time line correct? in Sequence? It just seemed weird that the DJ TB I have seem to be identical in characteristics so far to the DP BB.

I was kind of joking about the repacking of DP BB. I only really said that because I feel like I have some DP BB's here now.


Still curious on some peoples experience with True BB compared to DP BB.

Thanks

 

[yohomz]

Yea, I just started some of DJ's flo (the same way I have started all my others for years), and they look a little haggard for some reason. I heard they grow out of it though?? They are growing much slower than anything else I have grown, but nonetheless they ARE growing. They better turn out nice for what I paid for them.

 

[skar]

Yea, I just started some of DJ's flo (the same way I have started all my others for years), and they look a little haggard for some reason.

be carefull, the slow vegger's can be the stronger and flavorfull smoke of the lot.

 

[chimei]

My hopes are my TB do turn out much nicer then the DP BB I have grown in the past.

The DP BB were really a dissapointment overall from a growth, yield, taste perspective.

I would guess the molted mutant like characteristic must be introduced in the "blue"

So any DJ original BB growers ever see this mutation?

At this point I have only seen it in, DP BB, and DJ's TB.

yohomz, the hagard look you talk about in Flo, does it include the leaves looking like they have a skin condition or somethin. I don't know how to put it, like plant eczema or something..

I will take a pic later

 

[Dr. G]

if its raised bumps you might havea N overdose thats what happend to my sour bubbles

 

[chimei]

This has been fed nothing yet. (Just moved to soil with Earth Worm Castings)

This is the attribute I have only seen with DP BB and now DJ shorts True BB. I have never seen it before on any other strain I have grown.

With the DP BB, I had it on EVERY seed I grew of a pack.

With the DJ True BB I have it on 4, this is the worst of the 4.

The DJ Orig BB, NONE have had this attribute.

I don't know what to call it other then plant eczema.

My experience with the DP BB, was that whatever this is, it held the plants back from growing to their full potential. (Back with DP BB, I had heard if you vegged them long enough you might be able to break through where it leaves this thing behind, I think at the time I went like 2 or 2.5 months and gave up and flowered because I was getting nowhere and it seemed to be a lost cause) If I recall all the females hermied, if I looked like that I would be stressed too.

 

[abirdintheair]

i thought it was well known within the blues theres a mutant factor that can become expressed from time to time.

 

[Elevator Man]

Oh no, that's absolutely fine - quite normal for many DJ Short plants. I have many strains with the white/yellow marbling, and some with the most deformed leaves you've ever seen - one of my Cocoa Kush clones is insane. But they often (usually) grow out of it at flower time - my Flos are very cabbagey when cloned, and have twisted leaves, with no serrations. If left unpruned, by the time they get to five-bladed leaves they're looking normal, and as soon as they flower, they shake it off - every time.

I'm on about my tenth Flo grow of the purple pheno right now, and every time it does this - as does the green pheno. The other two purple phenos were normal from day one, but ended up much smaller...

 

[chimei]

i thought it was well known within the blues theres a mutant factor that can become expressed from time to time.

From time to time is what I thought also. I must just have bad luck.

DP BB I had it on all of the pack I grew. DJ orig, NONE out of the pack.

DJ True BB, all of them so far.

That is why I am curious on others results that have grown DP BB, and DJ True BB.

Also, is every blue line a decendent of an orginal male or female that introduced this trait?

I can see how a line might have this across multiple "blue" strains due to the orig male or female, I dont know where it came from.. having mutant traits, but how can DJ, DP, both have the same mutant traits if there is not some common ancestor?

 

[chimei]

Oh no, that's absolutely fine - quite normal for many DJ Short plants. I have many strains with the white/yellow marbling, and some with the most deformed leaves you've ever seen - one of my Cocoa Kush clones is insane. But they often (usually) grow out of it at flower time - my Flos are very cabbagey when cloned, and have twisted leaves, with no serrations. If left unpruned, by the time they get to five-bladed leaves they're looking normal, and as soon as they flower, they shake it off - every time.

I'm on about my tenth Flo grow of the purple pheno right now, and every time it does this - as does the green pheno. The other two purple phenos were normal from day one, but ended up much smaller...

Thanks!

I am going to be optimistic then and see where it goes from here then

I was just really bummed after a bad experience with the DP BB.

 

[wafflehouselove]

hey dude whats up i haven't gotten to grow any dj blueberry which i really want to but i can tell you i just got me a pack of Dj short Cocoa Kush supposely he used the blueberry parents for this strain, but anyway out of 7 beaners most or actually all of them started off deformed. Now 2 of them are starting to have normal growth but i am guessing that is a characteristics of DJ short. And also i've grown dp blueberries but mines was femmed, all 5 plants look good when vegged only one of it maybe falls apart from the other 4 because it was growing like 3 fan leaves but thats about it i didn't get any deformaty like i am getting with my cocoa kush

 

[swampdank]

my absolute favorite smoke

my absolute favorite smoke

here she is. funny looking as hell but super sweet dankness to the bone. twice as pwerful as the non mutant cut...




dont give up on them, the mutant factor is a great thing as it usually means massive amounts of resin.

also, yield hasnt seemed to suffer from this condition either.

 

[chimei]

Great thanks for all the replies.

I will treat them right and see what I get then!

I do like that with both the DJ orig BB and True BB you can see the purple waiting to come out of them even in the young vegitative state. (Stems and new nodes look purple as they come in)

The last 4 males I had of BB orig were ALL purple on the back sides of their fan leaves, I can't wait to see what comes out in flowering if I have some females here.

 

[Ulysses]

Swamp, that one's a beauty!

Damn near a stealth plant...hehehe

DJ's genetics are prone to mutation- NOT a bad thing- you got lucky if you got mutants! Keep that plant going!

 

[Guest]

True blues!!!

True blues!!!

Hey people!,

Got myself some trueblues go'n at the moment 7 to be precis, the other 3 beans?, 2 were runts (yanked) & 1 never made it above its rw cube & from what I can see, the survivors are yes!, some strechy lil bastards, (maybe males?... We'll see!) just now start'n to put on sides at 5-6 weeks veg, 2 of witch look like they should be inna wheelchair & helmet on str8 challanged right!!, but nonetheless look healthy as well as all the rest ppm's hover'n round 460-490 ionic grow cause I hear there nute sensitive right?... Hope I can catch a fêfè or 2 wish me luck.... Oh does TB grow streched out or Is it just me cause from the pix I've seen its not me, just wondering.

 

[REZDOG]

DP's "blueberry" was,originally,(somewhat) licensed from DJ.
After a while,DP decided not to honor their agreement with DJ.
I wouldn't buy anything "blue" from DP,it was likely produced in a 2br Dutch apartment under a 400w bulb using less-than-appropriate selection processes.

In fact,I wouldn't buy ANY DP,at all.

 

[REZDOG]

DJ's genetics are prone to mutation-

That's because they make "blueberry" seeds using their "blueberry" seeds,simply interfucked-and they have No Clue what traits to select for,so they don't.
Hence,the mutants.
You don't see many mutations in DJ's releases,just the odd deformity that works itself out as it matures.
DP's shit is just that,shit.

 

[B.C.]

Wait a min here...

Wait a min here...

I had mutants in both packs of DJ's BB I grew.They never did grow out of it.I pitched em.I don't have time er space for that sorta thing. I did however finda good pheno,but I found the same pheno in a pack of DP's that wasn't as picky er finicky about everything. It yeilds alot better too because it's jus way hardier.You couldn't tell the diffrence in the end product of each thne good thing is DP's beans were about half the price DJ's.That's the way the cookie crumbled fer me. Take care...BC