MASSIVE OUTDOOR GROW

[Julian]

yeah, tell me about mess man, partner and I weren't exceptionally realistic with our timescales (also some things taking a lot longer than we were informed they would).

Welll...............they're the optimistic schedule and then the real schedule........We all have a pretty good idea of how things realistically are timed.......sometimes tell ourselves something different..(and, sometimes, just trying to do too much we lose sight of other things which create scheduling conflicts.......I kind of just did the latter ....knowingly though.......)

On the partner note, I'm very much of the 'if you want something done properly...' school, which probably doesn't do me any favours, but like you say, see come harvest

I don't know if it's "If you want something done right", as much as it's sometimes "Well, I see it's not going to get done right"
I believe in partners.......for me a necessity, but....gets tiring sometimes and annoys me.....People pull the same shit at any other "job" (that pays 50 x less...) their ass would be out the door........Sometimes an issue of "friends"...which you would get the same running any other business if employing friends and family.....they might take a little less serious when in reality should be taken much more serious....

Sometimes a matter of simply intelligence...other issues......(MY problem(s) lately are along the lines of "How the fuck can I have any confidence and feel comfortable when can't rely on the smallest tasks to be completed"....etc.......)

I guess though a lot depends on ones demeanor to start with (yours).....manner....etc......I tend to get pretty fuckin angry and unload at will.....so ......

I can say, despite all, and, I don't know about any one else, but, I am fuckin psyched.......

I'm ready to go........in full force spring mode.......

Took a tour yesterday and googled about 20 spots (altogether maybe 100 more spots, 20 will work out of em), and, fuckin ready to go......

Google reminder:
You identify spot on foot, in real time.........google to verify what is around, behind, layout, etc, make decision from there......(might also help identify where clearings are in denser patches, etc........which may, or may not be adequate depending on spot.....)

I'm good to go...could have planted 200 yesterday..........(wished I could have.......got that fanatical surge going on ........)

(That would have been myself btw.......no partners on a lot of stuff I am doing.....partner, larger deal little later (than now), and, maybe 2-3 other smaller ones with people later on......ie: Have about 100+/- closer spots, my own....have the larger with one principal partner and ongoing smaller partner........then have couple smaller ones throughout year, and, might pick up a couple more smaller ones as year goes on.........as I do often......)

I'm ready to go....that's all I know .....(still a little short on supplies.....have maybe 200lbs of so (??) left from last year....other stuff on it's way in......someone else stopped somewhere and picked up several cases of stuff this week......)

I'm ready to go man......full force.......or die

Hope everyone is doing well....final stretch here for many...(4-5 weeks+/-)...

Blink of an eye ......

Blink of an eye....

Have to decide what I want to do about this thread also.......and would like to kill gallery.....what's past is past......it's over.......it's done............gone forever............Always believe in fresh galleries......Never want to be one of those people resting on 5yr old pics........Question never is what have you done...... Question is what are you doing, and what's next ...

Forward motion............evolving...........etc.......

Huge one a ways to go....but, want to get pics up at some point, when I have a chance and get by there again.....(not to impress.....to share ....)

Really amazing...........truly.........outdoor space.......indoor spaces.......really beyond words......."Free reign".........

Good Luck man..........Good Luck..........be careful........May you be done and gone before they know you were there ....

 

[Julian]

yeah, tell me about mess man, partner and I weren't exceptionally realistic with our timescales (also some things taking a lot longer than we were informed they would).

You know.......a "mess" doesn't have to be such a bad thing.......... all depends on ability to adapt......fluid thinking.....etc.....

"A problem is only a problem if there isn't a readily identifiable solution"......(That's mine btw .....)

So....you roll with the punches......adapt.......and, who knows.....in the end.....something better than before might come out of it .......

I never really have a "firm plan" set in stone at any point early on........for various reasons.......things change....spots change......new ones added, old ones dumped......maybe hold something back for more clones later, maybe run some things larger, etc.........

As long as you can handle it........it's not that bad, ya know?......(same for anything in life........we tend to become extremely disappointed when out firm plans and things we'd hope for too much don't come to fruition.....but, as above.....fail to see in many cases things work out even better than they would originally...............)

"Go with the flow".......lot less stress..........and, always helps to be able to "think on ones feet".......address anything, out of anywhere, at anytime......

(That behavior and view also can help tremendously security wise throughout the year....and into future ......)

 

[vod]

It's been snowing here last week, but hopefully the weather will turn better come next week. I have some plants waiting to go out. Wanted to try a spring harvest.

I maybe shouldn't post here as my plans are nowhere close to massive... but I like the atmosphere on this thread And once I get some outdoor experience and a car I might go a bit more massive

Good luck to you all!

 

[Julian]

It's been snowing here last week, but hopefully the weather will turn better come next week. I have some plants waiting to go out. Wanted to try a spring harvest.

Well, just make sure by extended always cold is gone........you don't want to plant and catch a surprise last blast........(depending on location)...

I'm not sure spring run possible at this point....(Basically April 1st now.....)...maybe spring run pro can give you answer.....not my area of expertise....

I maybe shouldn't post here as my plans are nowhere close to massive... but I like the atmosphere on this thread And once I get some outdoor experience and a car I might go a bit more massive

Well, draw out of it what you can....what you like.....fairly broad topic(s)....

Experience will take you wherever your supposed to go.......not even something you have to think about......you will do exactly what your "supposed" to do...(in life)......but, not about that.....about maximizing what you can, when you can, where you can...efficiently.....securely...

Good run....maybe you'll buy 2 cars ......

Good luck to you all!

Thank you.........and to you also.......sincerely......

Growing a miraculous thing........many things one can get out of it.(or not)....regardless of numbers........from financial......to spiritual......to psychological (patience, greater understanding of world as a whole and how it all fits together, partnerships, understanding psychology, etc).....

Much more than simply growing a plant .....

Some get more out of it.....some get less.....some get nothing........

How it affects one will dictate their future involvement with it and the level of such........

 

[PHB]

Have to decide what I want to do about this thread also.......and would like to kill gallery.....what's past is past......it's over.......it's done............gone forever............Always believe in fresh galleries......Never want to be one of those people resting on 5yr old pics........Question never is what have you done...... Question is what are you doing, and what's next ...

I'm of mixed opinion on this. I know you have always eliminated all traces of past handles and started fresh and I can respect that. That said I think there is a lot of valuable wisdom in this thread and I think many would prefer to see it stick around (even if all of the pics no one ever bothered to look at disappear :wink

PHB

 

[moe]

take care with google, it is the big big brother
it could be wonderfull to find more spot and evidence, just by checking your google logs (by ip addresss, cookies, gmail account )
a wifi pocket scanner could be cool too, to see if there is an hidden wifi camera
i meet a policewoman on msn, it is wonderfull, the little information she can give, like the hour of the staff turn around, u could be sure there will be no staff this hour on the road
i have a wonderfull hidden spot but another one with great soil and light,
it if hard to not use this one, but i prefer less production than jail, but i'n not in the commercial mood

 

[vod]

I'm in the research and experiments faze of the project. And it's low budget experiments.

Last april was warmer then june Don't really count on that repeating but the climate seems quite mild and I want to see what the plants are capable of. First hand.

Car is a vital investment once we get to the commercial faze But experiments might pay for it.

Growing just gravy and hobby for me.

about maximizing what you can, when you can, where you can...efficiently.....securely...

Very true.

And a very good post of yours. I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[tokinjoe]

Dude I'd hate like hell to see you shitcan this thread. I'm still trying to figure out how the hell LEO doesn't see patches like the ones you plant....You got balls of steel bro I'll give you that. I plant 4 in one patch it gives me the jitters. I've got em scattered out for that reason, as well as if I get ripped they don't get all my shit. Of course, my numbers aren't anything NEAR what you do. 20 is avg grow for me, but after reading this and about the "crystals", think I'm going to go 30 or more. Put some out in a few places with crystals and let them go.......We'll see.

 

[Tropical]

...I'm still trying to figure out how the hell LEO doesn't see patches like the ones you plant....

He has a privacy fence.

 

[Julian]

I'm of mixed opinion on this. I know you have always eliminated all traces of past handles and started fresh and I can respect that. That said I think there is a lot of valuable wisdom in this thread and I think many would prefer to see it stick around (even if all of the pics no one ever bothered to look at disappear :wink
PHB

I tend to see it as only a "conversation"...and end of conversation.....I don't think of it as anything more than that......"4 senses of self" ya know?

Kind of you to say that it's anything more....anyone for that matter.....

Yeah, those links are tricky little devils, aren't they?

I usually hold on to 1-2 for identification purposes when I change handles, and, also, to me....usually only 1-2 I find as like, a "summary" of season...project......something that I think of....makes me remember fondly, etc.......this season, those would be I think this one and and I guess maybe this one......

To me sums up whole season more or less

take care with google, it is the big big brother
it could be wonderfull to find more spot and evidence, just by checking your google logs (by ip addresss, cookies, gmail account )
a wifi pocket scanner could be cool too, to see if there is an hidden wifi camera
i meet a policewoman on msn, it is wonderfull, the little information she can give, like the hour of the staff turn around, u could be sure there will be no staff this hour on the road
i have a wonderfull hidden spot but another one with great soil and light,
it if hard to not use this one, but i prefer less production than jail, but i'n not in the commercial mood

Nah, I'm not concerned......I don't use :Next great grow spot" on my google searches ....Just intersections....business's.....etc......I pan out from there....They'd have to have everything already and couple extra spots not going to make a difference...I'd already be toast.. They come, it's not for a single plot.....

I also have no intention of ever standing in front of a judge for sentencing. Not going to happen.

Ever.

I guarantee.

10 different ways and places to spend 20+ years happy and undetected. (Have a good friend pushing about 17 years now grilling prawns, watching sun set......plus I'd take a bullet to the head before doing 30 years....so....moot point ...not concerned......my concern is my package left for family...anything else isn't important......)

We'll see how it all works out in the end.....

I don't have much of this left in me, so.......we'll see if I make it.....I'm about ready to wrap it up, and, can fairly easily......(ie: I can tell any and everyone "I am out tomorrow, , too bad".....and that would be that......and, I'd be glad, and, embrace it....I have other income, other things in life I do, enjoy, etc....

We'll see how it all plays out.....could go either way......

If bad?......well, maybe I deserved it....

If good?...maybe what was supposed to be.......

Who knows.......not I, that is certain ....

We'll see ....

I'm in the research and experiments faze of the project. And it's low budget experiments.

Last april was warmer then june Don't really count on that repeating but the climate seems quite mild and I want to see what the plants are capable of. First hand.

Car is a vital investment once we get to the commercial faze But experiments might pay for it.

Growing just gravy and hobby for me.

I know......each and every season different in most locations.....some better, some worse....such is the life of a farmer I suppose ....

As long as you enjoy it....get what makes a difference to you out of it....thats the important thing.....everything works itself out whether one is good at it, or terrible at it........

Dude I'd hate like hell to see you shitcan this thread.

Eh....just a conversation....always is another .......

I'm still trying to figure out how the hell LEO doesn't see patches like the ones you plant....You got balls of steel bro I'll give you that.

Nah man....just another guy.....same as anyone else, just an extremist with access to spots and land some don't have.....I''m sure most would do same if in my position (well, some.....)

They don't see em because I put em where they're not looking for em .....or try.......I've had problems here and there.....you know.....

I plant 4 in one patch it gives me the jitters. I've got em scattered out for that reason, as well as if I get ripped they don't get all my shit. Of course, my numbers aren't anything NEAR what you do. 20 is avg grow for me, but after reading this and about the "crystals", think I'm going to go 30 or more. Put some out in a few places with crystals and let them go.......We'll see.

Well, crystals make a huge difference.......even reducing a single trip can make or break it sometimes......so....any and every trip you can eliminate is a good thing......good rainfall?........no reason why shouldn't be able to go no maintenance is all other factors in line........then a matter of stopping to do other things occasionally instead if you feel like it........

That's how it's done....(spread em out as much as possible.....work em in the best you can...........I think it's fairly artistic..........trying to work everything into existing as good as one can....just right.......can make a huge difference in some cases........the more one does....in as many spots as possible....the least one is affected by certain events.......few can take losses......)

I don't necessarily plant what I do with the assumption I will bring it all in....

I plant what I plant so that even if everything turns to shit.......I still get what I want, and need....

If it works out?.......I get more.....Lost spot last year up to 700..(later planted)............

Yeah...I was bothered....but, took it fairly well in passing.....they're gone, spots dead.......was a good run......most upset because that spot was peppered with some males for seed, and, stock would have been fairly nice....would have tied me over for quite a while also ....)

Is what it is man........

Spread as many out over as many spots as one can..........the better one is end of season.....(see, people think numbers just numbers......more important to smaller growers than larger........guy who does 20......can they afford to lose 20?...........)

Old rule of thumb is 3x what you want to bring in....

It works out?....your well off....

You have problems?...well, you went in heavier to start, so....might still take out what you intended in the first place........even with serious problems...

Jmo......everyone has their own views and approaches....

He has a privacy fence.

 

[GroBoy2000]

Well, even as 'just conversation', its been damn impressionable, and very reasonable, many things considered

my season is not yet REALLY starting, got some time out in spots today, got soaked, got my spring thing going, but just a few minis, but when it does start, I like to think I'll now be 10 times more clear on my goals and risks, fuck man, 100 times even, I 'feel/see' a thousand more things now when i walk into or out of a place

Thanks for mentioning art of war, that book could make or break many growers, b/c for me, outdoors, growing is usually the easy part, not like indoor, constantly adjusting things, outdoors it grows so green and thick, quite naturally, so success lies 90% in my spot, my strategy is my spot, sure, i need water, i gotta have a 'time' to go in, but these kinda things would have never been observed by me without the kind of awareness that comes from reading AoW

hope to hear more out of you still

 

[inverse]

julian - i've read the first 8 pages of this thread and it's incredibly inspirational to me. right now i have my first outdoor planned, here in cali where the summer is basically an annual drought. anyways, i'm wondering if you'll agree that nearly the entire population never takes the time to notice the things right under their noses. at first i approached this guerrilla grow looking only for the most clandestine spots available in my urban/forest hybrid where i live. However, it seems like i may be able to plant weed in secret, but not too remote, areas where people simply wouldn't think to go?

Also, in about a year i plan to grow on a large scale like what you discuss on my friends 200 acres. the land is incredibly dry, but it is also not an area famous for growing weed which is a plus here in cali. Do you think it's feasable for a relative newbie to grow 500/1000 plants on my friends land (sparse of many trees) where i would likely have to set up irrigation? thanks for the thread

 

[3BM]

Hey J:

I have a question on methodology. We've talked about the rhythm required to plant in quantity ... meaning: spade, nutes, plant, water. If I can plant a few a minute, how close are they together? How many individual in a given area? If Im walking 100ft between each group of 2-3 Im taking a lot more time to get them in. If I get to a good spot would you start dropping 2-3 every few feet over the stretch?

I know, I know .. its all relative, each spot will dictate, but Im trying to envision how all this will work. In your experience whats the average plot? Talking later season, direct plantings no holes. But really the question could apply to early season pre-drills as well. I need to get them in efficiently. I need them hidden well. I need them in small enough groups to not indicate sophistication. How do these come together in a practical sense?

Im also wondering what time during the day you hit spots? If Im sneaking something into a populated area do you run late night/early morning? Can I blend them well enough at night, can I pick good light?

As always thanks for any input. Just hoping to start the discussion on some more specifics getting closer to the season.

 

[frostynugs420]

i was recently digging some plots, and i was thinkng; if i want to plant a plot, im going to have to make 100% sure they dont get discovered ever...cause if they do, theyre going to be searching around for other plots.

i do alot of 5-10 plant patches, inside of 400-500 plant areas...you know>?

just the thought of someone coming back there from one plant and finding them all weekend is just a pain in my ass

????im drunk sorry if that didt make sense
i try to give respect to the master J

 

[Julian]

Well, even as 'just conversation', its been damn impressionable, and very reasonable, many things considered

Hey man.......

Well, I'd agree a "good" conversation.........I thought so......Few disagree......

Let em.

my season is not yet REALLY starting, got some time out in spots today, got soaked, got my spring thing going, but just a few minis, but when it does start, I like to think I'll now be 10 times more clear on my goals and risks, fuck man, 100 times even, I 'feel/see' a thousand more things now when i walk into or out of a place

All about being aware of your surroundings......psychology.......and being aware of possibilities.......which are really endless to start with.....

Thanks for mentioning art of war, that book could make or break many growers, b/c for me, outdoors, growing is usually the easy part, not like indoor, constantly adjusting things, outdoors it grows so green and thick, quite naturally, so success lies 90% in my spot, my strategy is my spot, sure, i need water, i gotta have a 'time' to go in, but these kinda things would have never been observed by me without the kind of awareness that comes from reading AoW

hope to hear more out of you still

Well.....that and others are things that all should read for life period, ya know?....sometimes I "study"...sometimes not as much as I should, and, sometimes people overlook such are things which many dedicate their entire lives to......you don't "read" it once......You read it many times over the course of years.....Been on my desk for 10-15......

I'm still around, so....but, something will be done, so....just a heads up every now and then...Couple said wanted to finish reading, so....humbled they have an interest...wouldn't cut em off like that.....

I do believe spot dictates quite a bit.........method falls in line depending on climate......one's self helps ....

Issue in knowing all factors....knowing how they work off each other....overall iew.........minor nuances can alter an entire overview, so.....I something think most important having a good overview at all times....

julian - i've read the first 8 pages of this thread and it's incredibly inspirational to me.

Thanks man....glad of interest...of some use one way or another.....

right now i have my first outdoor planned, here in cali where the summer is basically an annual drought. anyways, i'm wondering if you'll agree that nearly the entire population never takes the time to notice the things right under their noses. at first i approached this guerrilla grow looking only for the most clandestine spots available in my urban/forest hybrid where i live. However, it seems like i may be able to plant weed in secret, but not too remote, areas where people simply wouldn't think to go?

Well, and some areas where they might be in general location, but not right on top of it.......

Lot of us know.....as we do the same.....and always have....(Most who have done heavy forest I am sure have walked part their own several times....I know I have.....many times....so...there you have cases of even when looking for something not readily apparent.....All depends on site....I could give a few current examples, but, done giving out specifics of my spots and areas....(as in specific specific's........)

Your climate problem is going to be feeding (watering).....(and soil...I always thought you guys had good soil....guess depends where you are.....) Can you prep, can you access, etc, and, what are realistic chances of observers....traffic....etc....

Lot of people will lean heavy on their specifics, and how it makes their situation different, but, in reality, it is always what it is. We all have specifics we have to address, some more, some less. You pinpoint issues, and work on addressing them. Such is the game. To best of my knowledge not one exists which cannot be overcome through one way or another.

Also, in about a year i plan to grow on a large scale like what you discuss on my friends 200 acres. the land is incredibly dry, but it is also not an area famous for growing weed which is a plus here in cali. Do you think it's feasable for a relative newbie to grow 500/1000 plants on my friends land (sparse of many trees) where i would likely have to set up irrigation? thanks for the thread

Okay.....

Location and help will be your only limits on what you can do. "Sparse trees" right off the bat an issue, but, a lot still possible and as far as volume, there's your answer right there: What will spot hold and allow. You could have everything in line to run 10,000.....if spot can't hold it, well, that's that....

I love private land for prep......aside from harvest your number one workload and exposure, and, the more you do, the more that exposure is, so....you go over land...maybe do an aerial...maybe go over again ....ie: "walk the land".....that will give you an idea what is possible right off the bat and don't forget to view everything from third party eyes....

Concerned with observers?....you become the observer....(I think most of the time people tell themselves and convince themselves what a great spot it is but never look at it through fresh eyes.........People aren't stupid....

They are however not always paying attention to what is around them.......sometimes attention focused elsewhere......depth perception......etc....

Placement also ties in with irrigation...(I don't do it...but that doesn't mean clueless to applications ...).....sources.....runs to plots.....best spots in relation to that, etc....again...you walk land and try and determine best placement and go from there and try and then lay a plan to best suit the spot.....

Minimal forest/tree cover sounds like a problem for 1,000 tree's....(Okay...my breakdown is like this...........200 acres?......1,000?...okay, your talking 5 per acre..call footprint(s) 60 sq. ft roughly (rounded for a purpose)...so, 5 is 300 sq. ft. per acre.

Acre is about 43,000 sq. ft.

Less than 1% of area.

You walk the land, you see what you can get in and pull out of it....all depends on spot......Private is nice due to being able to work a little easier and access.

As earlier...spreading it out doesn't hurt if minimal help (even if not).....meaning early, average, late strains, etc.......2 people pulling down 1,000 in a one week period?....140 a day......70 each. Not unreasonable......problem is not pulling em down...problem is drying and clipping..(again, a little easier if you stagger finishing times......I've had weeks having to pull down shitloads asap....and, I've had years (last good example)...harvest time spread over many weeks, couple months..(last season almost 3 months cutting.......10-12 weeks....had that same volume been in 2 weeks?......believe me.....not something you want to have to do......you get sick just looking at it all .....

I think entirely possible......prep would be heavy, harvest would be heavy.........

Hey J:
I have a question on methodology.

Hey brother....If I can...of course......

We've talked about the rhythm required to plant in quantity ... meaning: spade, nutes, plant, water. If I can plant a few a minute, how close are they together? How many individual in a given area? If Im walking 100ft between each group of 2-3 Im taking a lot more time to get them in. If I get to a good spot would you start dropping 2-3 every few feet over the stretch?

Okay........specifics......

one or more per minute I'm talking strictly mini's, closer planted, soils fine. Hole maybe size of a 20oz cup....sometimes 1-2 feet apart....sometimes less.....sometimes arms length....Of course farther they are from each other, time adds up from spot to spot.......that quick, I'm just talking planting mini plots.....(or stretches.....)

Note: I have also done early and mid season similar...minimal holes...same technique.....early, larger holes better for countless reasons, even if soil enables minimal hole......(I've done 3" peat pots straight in ground, 3" holes, top fed, but, going to get serious weight issues later on in season, splitting, tipping issues, etc.........so....ideally, I do only minimal holes mid and end season..(shorter plant, less above issues......)

Goes back to above...what does spot enable?.....Have a couple spots this season going to do the above (5" peat pots into 5" holes, top fed, no maintenance....but, that is what spots allow..(have to get in, get em in, and GTF outta there and not come back)

I know, I know .. its all relative, each spot will dictate, but Im trying to envision how all this will work.

So you already knew!

In your experience whats the average plot? Talking later season, direct plantings no holes. But really the question could apply to early season pre-drills as well. I need to get them in efficiently. I need them hidden well. I need them in small enough groups to not indicate sophistication. How do these come together in a practical sense?

All about the spot man........you know the answer looking at it, walking it what it can best hold.......

Later they are, smaller they are, I tend to do tighter planting and patches.....but, all depends..(like I said earlier how tracks I do single file stretches over long distances...sometimes double rows...can also be applied to treelines over long distances.....forest line if uneven vegetation, etc.....

Mid and later season, straight in, depends mainly on your soil...

All about location, climate and preferences.....you know spot, see it, walk it, idea(s) start to develop, etc...(I might have a complete plan for a spot....once I walk it...might change...once I get started....might change again....halfway through season, might change yet again.......

All about the "feel".......

Im also wondering what time during the day you hit spots? If Im sneaking something into a populated area do you run late night/early morning? Can I blend them well enough at night, can I pick good light?

I was doing day for a while....was working fine but started to not feel too good about it..(because, again....during busy business day?...most people focusing on what is in front of them, getting back to work, etc...someone walking on spring/summer day with bags from store not something unusual .....)

Then I switched it up to sundown........still enough light once you get in
to have a good overview and get work done by time it gets dark....(one of my last plantings last season was pitch black and monsoon rain.....I just had a t shirt on ....(That was one of my quickest rounds ...was 100 in under 1 hour (I wonder why so quick ....)

Observation?.....I would try during the day but not close to spot....just close enough to see if any activity, traffic.......(spot here and there I can see the tops of them in the distance...also bring camera...use zoom on it, etc.......)

Again man.....spot and traffic and area and your personal preferences dictate it all........and, what I am getting at a lot of the time is people sit and think through it all....

You know.......you might have initial idea and plan, and, they change with every step according to what you "feel"....

"Feel" is very important.....all should follow it .....

As always thanks for any input. Just hoping to start the discussion on some more specifics getting closer to the season.

No problem man....whatever you need.....whatever I can do...if I can do......

i was recently digging some plots, and i was thinkng; if i want to plant a plot, im going to have to make 100% sure they dont get discovered ever...cause if they do, theyre going to be searching around for other plots.

i do alot of 5-10 plant patches, inside of 400-500 plant areas...you know>?

just the thought of someone coming back there from one plant and finding them all weekend is just a pain in my ass

????im drunk sorry if that didt make sense
i try to give respect to the master J

And right back at cha.....everyone should give it to everyone else .......(You know...you shouldn't try to talk business when fucked up..........never goes anywhere of value to tomorrow )

You shoot for 100%....best you can get is 99 .......

I gotcha....valid concern......double check your area....your spacing...your plots......nothing ever guaranteed, but, more you put into it more you can think about and address......One of the reasons I like the mid size and smaller ones...(below people's field of sight.....eye level....etc.......) 500 general area if midsize or larger maybe your spacing too tight ...That's pretty heavy spacing if not mini's.....

 

[3BM]

As always, right on brother. Thanks for the guidance.

 

[HOVAH]

well thank you very much JUELS, I went out 2day with the intent of putin 30 plants in the ground but I only got, say 13 of um done...... why you ask .....
ITS HARD F*CKIN WORK DIGGIN HOLES MAN!!...

SHIT, I think im gonna need help, but my greed wont let me!!

 

[Julian]

well thank you very much JUELS, I went out 2day with the intent of putin 30 plants in the ground but I only got, say 13 of um done...... why you ask .....
ITS HARD F*CKIN WORK DIGGIN HOLES MAN!!...

SHIT, I think im gonna need help, but my greed wont let me!!

Have you cut back on the smoking? eating? working out?...........gotta prepare man, no one ever said was easy (The only thing I think everyone actually agrees on! )

Nah.......it's not greed...........it's caution.......common sense......(Harvest heaviest workload next to prep....but, (follow me on this).......easier and safer to bring someone in to cut (ready, it's done) then to earlier in season.......Less to worry about, etc...

Only 17 to go...(assume you got em already)....Best to just stay and put in the work (No trip next time......) I'm fanatical about that stuff........(I don't care if it takes 36hrs......not leaving until done, etc......I've got something like that this week.......might pass out.....wake up?, back to work .....)

Good luck man.....I am itchin myself....hard because all is ready....ready to go...plants ready.....could start planting tomorrow..(weather won't allow...hae another 5 weeks maybe.....)

Might have some interesting pics next time I am around ...(Not sure which stops re on agenda this week........but, will be interesting ....)

 

[frostynugs420]

500 general area if midsize or larger maybe your spacing too tight ...That's pretty heavy spacing if not mini's.....

mostly mid and late...right now i have to work on my legal plant bussiness

theyre spaced very far tho, in HUGE forests with little breaks with, you know...3-4 per spot.

your already starting some clones, arent you?

 

[Julian]

500 mids is not a bad haul man.......and not too much work...I like smaller better, much more manageable and quicker to pull down....

Yeah...good spacing and spread out on mids takes it to a little safer place........

I'm starting clones? (Nah, got a lot of ones getting larger by the day....don't know how I can hold off on them for 5 more weeks or so (dare I say 5.....) Right now they're at where I usually put em out, so...6 more weeks?....I'll definitely be fucked

Definitely

Nah, maybe will hold some back for moms and such.....These are secondary private things....maybe will start next preferred round...Hmmmm......maybe hold back bunch of moms....start next rounds week before these go out...throw em into sopace as soon as others out, then throw them out 2 weeks, then shave down moms week before those go out.....

Thanks ....Ya gave me a plan (haven't been thinking about it...on autopilot with other stuff on plate ....)