Haze Heaven Grow!

[Guest]

I'm here.

It's ok to bury stems, but be very careful of moisture remaining around/near the leaves for any period of time. Things might happen; none of them good.

pedro

Yeah I know, leaves start to get nasty spots and eventually die. Just watered it a little while ago with a mild solution of FoxFarms Grow Big and the portion of the stem thats buried looks very healthy, no signs of excessive moisture or even roots trying to grow from it. Might end up with a problem soon though, the Grow Big is at least three years old, and I think I heard some solid pieces at the bottom of the bottle when I shook it up, it also had a medicine/hospital room like smell. But its the only product I have at the moment that has a higher solible ratio of N to P and K, which Ive found to increase the odds of it developing into a female, as well as a high kelvin bulb, starting the photoperiod at around 12/12 and increasing it by 10 minutes a day once the third internode starts to show until reaching an 18/6 photoperiod, keeping room temps as cool as possible without going too cool, keeping humidity at around 60%, keeping soil as wet as possible without going too wet and keeping soil cooler like it would be in nature during early to mid spring.

 

[Guest]

If you bury your stem its fine it actually makes root growth better just like any other plant.. they look really healthy so all looks good wish you the best man.

Yeah, so far it may be the healthiest seedling Ive ever had to date!

 

[Guest]

Well pic wise Ive decided to post a couple more at day 21 and every week after that, unless of coarse I need to post a pic to help me diagnose any problems I may encounter in between 7 day intervals.

 

[Guest]

I don't understand why you are increasing days from 12/12 to 18/6. Then what? Back to 12/12 for flowering? That's just the opposite of what you should be doing. You'll confuse the plants.

That Grow Big sounds like it needs to be shitcanned. Go get some Alaska Fish Ferts (5-1-1 I think it is) or something organic(if your a strict organic grower). Why go to all the trouble with lights, good soils, etc. etc. and then screw your plants up cause you won't/can't spend $20.00 or less on fresh, known good ferts? Your plants represent a big investment. It's silly to try to save money that way.

pedro



60% RH is OK for vegging, but needs to be lower, like 40% or so, for flowering if you can control it.

 

[Guest]

I don't understand why you are increasing days from 12/12 to 18/6. Then what? Back to 12/12 for flowering? That's just the opposite of what you should be doing. You'll confuse the plants.

That Grow Big sounds like it needs to be shitcanned. Go get some Alaska Fish Ferts (5-1-1 I think it is) or something organic(if your a strict organic grower). Why go to all the trouble with lights, good soils, etc. etc. and then screw your plants up cause you won't/can't spend $20.00 or less on fresh, known good ferts? Your plants represent a big investment. It's silly to try to save money that way.

pedro



60% RH is OK for vegging, but needs to be lower, like 40% or so, for flowering if you can control it.

I try to replicate nature when starting seeds, when you plant outdoors the days are shorter when they sprout and get longer as the season nears the summer equinox. Im growing this to use as a mother plant provided it does indeed become a female.

Thats what I was thinking regarding the Grow Big. Im not trying to save money by not getting new nutrients for the seedling and early vegging stage, but due to certain curcumstances at the moment its a nutrient gamble I had to take.

I only try to keep RH in the 60% range until sex has been determined, after that I try to keep it in the 40-50% range.

 

[wygram]

Have you read these threads: Good info on sativas and growing sativas.

 

[Guest]

Have you read these threads: Good info on sativas and growing sativas.

No, thanks for the threads though.

 

[Guest]

Anyone know why you cant click on my sig.?

 

[Guest]

Well Pedro, its only been two days since I used that old Grow Big, but they are starting to pick up pace with not any bad signs so far. The Thai Haze Skunk#1 is one mutated mofo though, but Im not giving up on it just yet, talk about a stretchy seedling though!lol.

 

[Guest]

Yeah that looks genetic because it is symetrical. Both leaves have the same thing going on.

I have a pheno that looks funky too but she is growing very well....so I'm leaving her be.

good luck

pedro

 

[Guest]

So if a feature of a plant is expressed on the same node its genetic, so for instance if that turned male and i crossed to a female, those resulting seeds would likely have the same mutated first and possibly more sets of mutated leaves? Im very interested in developing at least one truly unique strain if i can, so im obviously interested in genetic info as well.

 

[Guest]

So if a feature of a plant is expressed on the same node its genetic, so for instance if that turned male and i crossed to a female, those resulting seeds would likely have the same mutated first and possibly more sets of mutated leaves? Im very interested in developing at least one truly unique strain if i can, so im obviously interested in genetic info as well.

Maybe ,maybe not. It may not be genetic. Even if it is genetic, there's no telling if the trait would be passed on. I doubt you want that sort of trait anyway

pedro

 

[Guest]

I doubt you want that sort of trait anyway

pedro

No I dont, was just using it as an example. If those leaves were asymetrical, would that automatically rule genetics as the cause of it out?

 

[Guest]

No I dont, was just using it as an example. If those leaves were asymetrical, would that automatically rule genetics as the cause of it out?

No it would'nt genetics in or out. And even that they are symetrical is no assurance that that leaf deformation is genetic. It may be some reaction to ferts and/or the environment. There could be many explanations. Some tiny damage done to the seedling early on. Lots of things.

You need to grow out 100's, 1000's of phenos to determine if things like that are actually, in fact, genetic. Genetics is a fun, interesting pursuit.... all but the basics are very complex and well beyond my understanding.

pedro

 

[Guest]

Genetics is a fun, interesting pursuit.... all but the basics are very complex and well beyond my understanding.

pedro

I hear ya there! My HH seedling sure is getting skunky already, the fifth internode is just starting to show itself, internodal spacing is around a 1/4 inch max., and overall height isnt more then maybe two inches. Right now Im bubbling a quart of water with approx. 2 TBSp of earthworm castings which Im going to water with on its 21st day, Im thinking of maybe giving it a foliar spraying of MaxiCrop Liquid Seaweed as well, do you think I should or just add a little to the castings tea?

 

[Guest]

Well I just watered with the castings tea, guess ill spray it with maxi crop in a couple days so it has more then just N, calcium and whatever else castings have, i think maxi crop has N P K, as well as macro or whatever nutrients. I cant believe how short the plant is so far, i figured Somas genetics would grow quicker then the f2's and f3's Ive grown in the past.

 

[Guest]

It's a girl! Although I think that old Grow Big is the reason why the top leaves are very chlorotic "think thats the word". So I stopped with the GB and switched to Peruvian Seabird Guano and EW castings tea only for now. Not sure if I should use the Maxicrop Liquidfied Seaweed in the tea as well or not?

 

[Guest]

Supercropped it today, its day 43 and its only 8 inches tall maybe. Its been under a 400w MH for a week or so now, so hopefully it will start growing much faster soon.

 

[Guest]

49 days old.

49 days old.

 

[ixnay007]

That's a really pretty girl, but it's not that sativa dominant...

For me hazes have leaves like you see in this photo:




As a positive, you should be able to give that a nice log veg, and it should yield pretty impressively.