Questions for Sam the Skunkman on Hindu Kush Indicas

[Sam_Skunkman]

British Hempire,
Have you read the 1893 Indian Hemp Comission Report?
Nine volumes 3698 pages, plus 2 secret reports written for the military.
It has a lot of info on cultivation, trade, use, of Cannabis and Hashish in all parts of India. They interviewed smokers, doctors, police, farmers, sadhus, people in the trade, tax officals, in most areas of India. I read the whole 11 volume report at the Bombay Asiatic Library, took 2 weeks. The best report on Cannabis I've ever read.
I have 2 of the original 11 volumes in my book collection.

-SamS

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Excerpts from the Indian Hemp Commission Report (Paperback)
by Tod Mikuriya $10 at Amazon

Marijuana: Report of the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission 1893-4 (Hardcover)
503 pages Publisher: Thomas Jefferson Publishing (1969) $50 Out of print review

 

[Londinium]

Ta!

Ta!

Thanks B.H. and SamS, great info,all I need now is some spare time!! J

 

[Guest]

British Hempire,
Have you read the 1893 Indian Hemp Comission Report?
Nine volumes 3698 pages, plus 2 secret reports written for the military.
It has a lot of info on cultivation, trade, use, of Cannabis and Hashish in all parts of India. I read the whole 11 volume report at the Bombay Asiatic Library, took 2 weeks. The best report on Cannabis I've ever read.
I have 2 of the original volumes in my book collection.

-SamS

hi sam ,,great thread ,,,i'm sure if bh hasnt read it, it wont be long before he does ,,
i can then just pick his brain for any info i require,,its great having such a resorcefull bunch of friends whose knowledge is the best available ,,thanks men (and the odd woman)

 

[Bluebeard]

I believe there's a few places where you can download a pdf of mikuraya's summation. Never seen the full version. Sam, you should buy the rights to the full version, as well as some of Brian Dutoit's tomes and put them back in print. I'm sure quite a few would buy a copy.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I am pretty sure it is out of copyright, it is more then 100 years old. I have never seen a full copy of even the 9 volumes on line, thats why you may need to read the original books. You can find them in British museums if you are lucky.
A worker at the Bombay Asiatic Library offered to sell me the volumes I read at the library for $1,000, cheap price but I don't buy stolen books.

-SamS

 

[joaquin386]

It would be interesting to see if it can be found online.

 

[guest3854]

Sam , wondering if you could shed some light ; Doing some research and looking in tha old catalogs we found a very brief description of Northern Lights #2 (what DP calls Oasis) saying that it's Hindu Kush . Would you care to comment ....I originally thought that NL had several lines within it ....
Would this be a selection of yours ?

Thanks
Steele

 

[oldtoker]

heres a thought,,,, most people are breeding strains to be like clones and have been for awhile,. arjan trys to rip off trainwreck(not sure how it went yet), cali o ripoff, nl rip off, g13 rip off, ect ect ect.... where as sam and people like him were breeding for what they liked and with a goal in mind, with good parential stock, they wernt taking a clone and trying to replicate it(they made the clone you want to replicate lol). the classic strains people are trying to remake is great, but let me just say im glad to be around some people with alot of creativity. i think its hard to replicate the sierous breeding of a new strain without alot of work but i still belive its possible and being done countless times over around the world. fresh genes pumping around its what we honestly need. crossing landraces that are known to be good to a classic strain will often make quite the interesting results, depending upon the landrace's breed history.
im smoking a purple african sativa closer the the center(jah it works good) with some stuff called polkadot, (dont ask me) anyway man very racey good for a festival

gotta say sam had the lines to make incredible stuff as im sure he had what countless others have never had, and selection skills of dreams.

hey sam whats the first you ever smoked and knew the strain? not what you grew but maybe something your brother or friend got you to try for first time... started you with. probley something good, look how much you love mj man.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Never worked with NL it was not mine.
The first homegrown I smoked was 1968 from Laguna Beach grown by one of the Brotherhood Of Eternal Love, it was Mexican and not yet done, but still more potent then seeded imports.
The first pot I smoked was 1965, Mexican I bought from a Russian girl at my high school, 3 doobies for $.75, they were smoked one after the other in quick breaths with no air between the hits. It worked!

-SamS

 

[Guest]

I think the world is grateful it did work Sam, set you off on an interesting career path at least.

So how long after those three Russian doobies did you plant your first seed Sam?

I remember the time I first smoked cannabis at college, I think it was about 6 weeks before I decided I liked this stuff and it was too expensive to buy and looked like shit (Jamaican brick- brown and dirty looking). A friend had a weed calendar with 12 pics of different beautiful colas and I remember standing there looking at this picture of a huge outdoor cola and looking at the lump of dirty brown crap and thinking 'what the hell happened to this to turn it from that to this?'

Talking of Mexicans, a friend has acquired some Highland Oaxacan Gold beans, they came originally from a Mexican family thats had the strain in the family for decades apparently. Sam, got any info or pics of the Highland Oaxacan? So little available on this legend, I take it Acapulco Gold is related to the Oaxacan Gold?

 

[Guest]

Hahahaha one breath after another without air!

Hahahaha one breath after another without air!

Never worked with NL it was not mine.
The first homegrown I smoked was 1968 from Laguna Beach grown by one of the Brotherhood Of Eternal Love, it was Mexican and not yet done, but still more potent then seeded imports.
The first pot I smoked was 1965, Mexican I bought from a Russian girl at my high school, 3 doobies for $.75, they were smoked one after the other in quick breaths with no air between the hits. It worked!

-SamS

Funny as god damned hell SAM,i remember the 10 dollars OZ's packed
to the brimmmmmmmmmm........we also drank Boones Farm wine haha!
Your nine years ahead of me SAM cool.......but far in knowlege from me?
Had alot to do with my MUSIC rather than just study weed like you!!!!!!
1965 was the SUPERFRESH days of weed,the brotherhood feel an all...

 

[ilife]

The first homegrown I smoked was 1968 from Laguna Beach grown by one of the Brotherhood Of Eternal Love, it was Mexican and not yet done, but still more potent then seeded imports.

-SamS

http://legendarysurfers.com/blog/labels/1960s.html

Make sure to watch the YouTube video.

iLiFE

 

[Guest]

Good link, ilife. That youtube video match it all seem so clean cut and innocent!

The Orange Sunshine documentary at the foot of the page is good too. I have to disagree with Timothy Leary though when he said LSD is the most powerful creation of mankind for influencing the human mind. I disagree, television has proved to be far more powerful.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

TV is only more powerful then acid if you don't take the acid.
If you watch TV for years acid can cut right through the programming.
Take acid and TV can not cut right through the results.

Which is more powerful?

-SamS

 

[Guest]

LSD never caused a cultural revolution, it certainly shook things up a bit, but it's impact wasn't big enough to change the world.

Television has changed the world many times, Romania is the classic example, Ceaucescu was seen on television being baracked by the crowd during a speech live on television which shocked the Romanian people and showed them for the first time that others were also disgruntled at the regime and a spontaneous revolution began, all caused by television.

The fall of the Berlin Wall happened because an East German State official made a mistake during a live TV announcement and said that he had ordered the border guards not to shoot anyone who approached the wall. Within a few hours East and West had spontaneously met at the wall and begun to tear it apart.

I'll go with what the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy sung... Television, the drug of a nation.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

British_Hempire,

"LSD never caused a cultural revolution, it certainly shook things up a bit, but it's impact wasn't big enough to change the world."

I would respectfully disagree. But I was there.

Many many more people have watched TV, even North Korea has TV, than have taken acid, but in respects to their power, if the same number of people that watched TV took acid I think you might see a little cultural revolution everywhere.
Things would change that is for sure.

-SamS

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Dr Kary Mullis,
Nobel Prize Winner for Chemistry in 1993 and inventor of PCR, a method for detecting even the smallest amount of DNA in ancient materials. "Would I have invented PCR if I hadn't taken LSD? I seriously doubt it," he says. "I could sit on a DNA molecule and watch the polymers go by. I learnt that partly on psychedelic drugs."

One small example of how LSD changed the world. If you use a Mac, thats another.
-SamS

 

[dkmonk]

Also don't forget many great works of literature were written or thought of on LSD.

 

[Guest]

Two very good examples Sam, I agree that if more people had taken acid you'd see a little cultural revolution.

I think television has the advantage of distribution, you can't send acid through the airwaves! Be an interesting social experiment to give a huge number of people LSD and observe the effects though, not like an Acid Test, mass testing on a whole population.

It is thought that the mediaeval legends of villages being attacked by huge dragons, of whole villages and towns seeing the same wierd things, was caused by ergot, the fungus that grows on grain and a hallucinogen. Grain would be stored in the village granary, often it would go mouldy with ergot fungus, bread then made from this grain would be hallucinogenic, the whole village would eat the bread and the result - mass halluncinations. A lot of the tales of leprechauns and other mystical creatures probably stems from these halluncinations. Makes you wonder how much of religion is based on hallucinations.

I suppose Orson Welles would say radio was the most powerful, certainly War of the Worlds caused massive upheaval when it was first broadcast.