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kenzler

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Mate spot on 1 foot in height (sorry i smashed tonight mate on smoke and sleepers)

Took theese today while passing so pictures are off my IPhone.

The short girls are packing on the weight so i would think 5 week on these and then 6 weeks for the others :)

Night all bed is calling big time.











I been asking the old man to raise the shorter girls but the stubburn bastard wont i swear he orgets everytime i ask him lol
 
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mossy

"I been asking the old man to raise the shorter girls but the stubburn bastard wont i swear he orgets everytime i ask him lol.."

I get that sometimes..
it is called selective deafness..
it gets worse with age.. :muahaha:

Cracking photos especially on a phone..
looks like that i-phone is coming in handy.. :yes:

The BS look real tasty..but I can see what you mean about the yield.
They could do with the bottom dense frame on them..boost them up a bit.
Bet they are a real nice smoke though..

When I went up to the light cupboard yesterday..I was met with a 1ft wide stench..emanating..
I knew something was about to show sex.
When I looked today..I have..
JEM fat pheno..
JEM mid pheno..
JEM vertical pheno..
WRussian..
and LR#2..
ALL COMING INTO SEX AT THE SAME TIME..

WR male..




JEMS..

:eek:
Gonna be a bit of a juggling act these next few weeks..



 
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mossy

First look at the Oguns Thunder.
This one hasn't af'd..but she has kept her thunder colour.
She is a Nigerian x maz/lr. F1.




This one is the Donkey Dick one..stunning colours

 
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mossy

:wave: Cheers Fi_Di_Bot..
If I get a female..I think I am going to pair her with the JEM stud male I have.
Inject a higher percentage of AF into it.
 

Fi_Di_Bot

Son Of Botany - Green Block Original Shrdana
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very interesting cocktail :D other stuff on your big cooker (sound good this phrase?)

i'm thinking to try to pollenated some lil flowers of the ml01 i'm running, to have a second stock of "Ml02" (ml01 x low#1 f2) and waiting more warm night to try some white dwarf outdoor!
 
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mossy

Ah..I checked the White Dwarf out.
It looks tasty.
Looks very Afghan dominant on the breeder photos.
I will be very interested to see her when she grows.
When does your out-door season start..?

very interesting cocktail other stuff on your big cooker (sound good this phrase?)
Sounds good to me M8.. :yes:
















 

Fi_Di_Bot

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eheeh ok is hard to right translate a way to tell :D
the out season should start at the end of march, first days of april but the last year we had some iced night at the begin of may...
for eastern i hope to move in a new home and move my lil plastic greenhouse and try them there. think to make some f2

yeah i can sound repetitive but "amazing colours" :headbange :muahaha:

here some pic of 2 original california orange skunk x lowryder#1 f2, one 100% female:


the second one put out 2 balls, removed and for the mo no new ones.



they got 28 day at 18/6 and about 36 days at 12/12. no AF sign :bashhead:
but isn't a problems, just hoping to got some good stuff to smoke :D
 
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mossy

:yes: Nice girls M8...

She has a real nice shape/formation.
#1 photo is lush..:yummy:
I can see why you wanted to cross that one.
Good luck with your AF hunt..and your house move.
 
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mossy

I was lying in bed last night..thinking about this male..

sad isn't it.. :petting:

but he just has me captivated.
I only picked the Fat pheno out @F3-4.
and this is the first time I have grown them out..
and I have never seen a "mini AF" male as large as this... :chin:


He has reached 2 ft high..around 20 ins wide..


He has a stem as fat as a finger..he oozes weight and vitality.
With that in mind..I have named him after my Brother.

Any crosses coming off him..will be the Fat B*stard crosses... :biglaugh:
Cheers Bro.. :yes:

If I show you him next to an ordinary sized JEM vertical pheno male..you will understand why..he dwarfs it..




Fat B*stard... :eek:

Have a Fantastic Friday..and a great weekend everyone.. :joint:
 

kenzler

Member
F*ck me mate is really is a fat ba*tard ain't he
leading on to one of my questions which again comes over silly but
What would be the major outcome on the off spring of this male?
does his height really determine much in the next off spring also how much infulance does the male have then against selecting just from the female genes?
 
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mossy

Right..bearing in mind anything I say is my personal opinion..so I don't want anybody yelling at me.
All I can say is..I have used this method for over 30 years..and it works for me.

Say I make a Fat B*stard Russian... :chin:

@F1..I would expect to see...

#1...a percentage resemble the Russian pheno..around 12-14 inches tall..similar build..

#2...a percentage resemble the Fat B*stard..around 2 ft tall..similar build..

#3...and a perecentage that will come right in-between..around 18-20 inches..
classic shape..slightly thinner than the FB male.

If I want a cross that needs to be a Mixture of the parents..
equal attributes from Both parents..I would select the #3 pheno..
that is the true Cross.
The Meld

I would then find a Matching pair..cross them together..IBL from there to preserve/strengthen the attributes I wanted.

If I wanted a cross where I needed the Russian height to dominate...
and the Fat B*stard attributes were secondary..
I would select the #1 cross..find a matching pair..IBL from there.

If I wanted the Fat B*stard size to dominate..and the WR attributes were secondary..I would go for the #2..and repeat.

Those crosses are mixed/melded..if a seed shows an identifiable bias towards one parent..then it is dominant towards it.
How strongly it resembles the donor parent...denotes its genetic predisposition to reproduce the traits of the original parent.
 
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pipeline

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^^^^in theory.... ;)

hey guys, long time no chats.... Been missing yall....

Very busy these days, as I am now balancing greenhouse production and a new girl!!!! :headbange

Living life right now, trying to squeeze everything in each and every day! I'll try and break off and read back a bit.... Its about time for our season to start, and I'm ecstatic.... Going to be some interesting plants coming out this season...

I enjoyed reading that last post, good one to come back on.... That won't always happen that way, but it'd be nice.... Some times there is no incomplete dominance, so there is less melding of parents.... Wish we could actually observe these populations by the thousands.... How interesting would that be! You'd see so many different plants!

The b indy is almost to flowering stage... No sex signs as of several days ago, but she was going alternate with her nodes.... Almost there... Right on the mark, 2 ft, bushy as a monster.... the mutant and Supercropped non-mutant are roughly the same size now.... Last I heard she was starting to cry from a nute deficiency which I could see approaching.... Its being taken care of though... Organicly... :yummy: Updates when I can manage it....

Grow on guys, grow on!!! :canabis:







 
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kenzler

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Cheers mossy that help's me understand alot.
I always thought the female would carry more traits to be honest but this makes more sense though :)

So the female version would be tall also would with a large canopy yes?

Pipe nice to see you mate glad life is going well for you :)
 
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mossy

:wave: Wey hey...Bro pipe.... :woohoo:

If you noticed..I started that post with..
Right..bearing in mind anything I say is my personal opinion..so I don't want anybody yelling at me.
All I can say is..I have used this method for over 30 years..and it works for me.

I must have known you were due to visit.. :muahaha:

What I will send back at you is..the Proof is in the Pudding..
have you ever seen anyone isolate as many phenos frames colours and individual traits out of one cross as I have out of the Maz/LR's.. :nono:
my method Works...even in it's most simplistic form.

When you start your crosses..
I shall be studying your breeding method...
CLOSELY..
in minute detail..
squinting over your shoulder...
and if I see anything I think gives better results.. :eek:

I will just Steal your idea. :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

I may be an Old dog..with Old tricks..
but if you can Prove to me your method works Better..
I will be doing it... :whip:

Have a great weekend m8.. :joint:
Send my regards to your new Lady..if she keeps you as Happy as you sound..
she will do for me.. :headbange
 
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mossy

Ah kenzler..sorry I didn't pick up that point.

ATM..Im not certain if either male or female donates the most genetics..
I have read a lot of contradictory views on it..BUT..nowt I am happy with.

I will try to capture a few reverse male/fem on these crosses..so we can see for ourselves.
My Opinion ATM is that it makes no difference...
but..it is something I want to know...so I might as well know first hand.
 
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mossy

Guys..this is a real Friday question.. :1help:

Who made the Original LowRyder..
I know the Joint Doctor is the official distributor..but who created it..
which breeder...?
 

kenzler

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Mate the original lowryder as far as i was aware was created by the jointDoctor who also brought out Lowryder 2

I did post details of this pages back which i will find now as i cant find it on the net again lol

will update this soon as i found it :)
 
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mossy

kenzler..that is it..that is all I needed to know..
who also brought out Lowryder 2

I know who made LR#2. Question answered.
That has just made my day.. :yes:

You know I got my original maz/lr crosses @ F1.
I didn't know if 1 breeder had bred the Original LR..
and another breeder crossed a mazar into it.

Or if the same breeder created both parts of it..now I know...
and I was right in my assumptions.
 
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