MASSIVE OUTDOOR GROW

[GroBoy2000]

Nope, just mediocre/substandard soil ......right timing I suppose....there is a couple others I think in there.....

You just saw that????????

(it's like........40 pages and 600 posts ago ...someones not reading thread, are they? ....)

40 pages ago, still 40pages, LOL, no shortage of 'bouncing ideas' and knowledge here

Nah...just as is......just planted as described in the posts earlier ....

c'mmmmon, how often do we actually read into anything the first time around, oh be assured, I have been from start to finish in this, not scanning, but reading, some pic links were missed originally, i think because was like 5 hours straight reading couple days in a row, lol, some points were missed, because have better understanding now, so,

actually, with re-reading thread, picking up so much more than first time still, have been motivated to pick up some old books, hoping to see twice as much the second time around

 

[Guest]

Fitness - right again. It is a big deal when you are working for yourself in a physical job.

 

[Julian]

Fitness - right again. It is a big deal when you are working for yourself in a physical job.

I can outperform 5-6 new guys at one of my jobs. This equates to me putting in 20 holes where someone who isn't fit will have done 3, and be needing a break cos their hearts trying to come out of their throat.

The difference between fit and fat is HUGE.

Well, not even "fat" per se...(I'm not...) but, I have been eating, less active, and smoking for a while again, etc, and, those first days (even prepping indoors if doing a lot)......you feel it.....

Every little thing makes a difference and don't even have to do full programs at dedicated facilities per se.....

Example: Walk to grocery store instead of drive.....live far? Good, all the better .....

Too much stuff to carry?...... Not more than your going to in worse weather and twice as far shortly....

After eating, dinner, whatever? roll one and take a walk until you think your going to pass out...

Last year, or year before, my biggest day walking/running was 25 miles over about 20hrs....(had nothing to do that day, and smoking cravings were hitting me extra bad........that was 5-5 mile round trips, 2.5 miles each way. I mapquested for actual distances.) I usually walk/run off the anxiety when I stop smoking.....That year I was actually the best shape of my life..(lowest weight, most definition, smallest clothes I have worn since almost in grade school .....) Weight aspects that year were basically everything....from heavy, heavy loads home from store, prepping,loads of supplies, etc......You just keep going and going and going and going (Plus, the harder you work, the sooner your done ...)

Cool, you like Rollins - I opened for him too hehe.

I do.....I've met him many time in past under similar circumstances ...



Holes:
If your drilling, any number very simple. Hundreds a day possible for single person. (Might not get them prepped and planted if alone.....next day, but, your looking at about 60 seconds or so per.

(And , make no mistake.....drilling is a serious PITA and hard work......)

 

[Julian]

thats too bad about the one you cut off, unfortunately, had hoped my spring run partner would be up to handling some of those 16 with me, its not just technical or laziness though, its colors, multiples, after mentioning, 'dude gotta cut yourself from those people', and still involved, chasing wrong girls, and also he mentioned that something we had done a while back, a guy was begging for a bud still on the plant, and so he obliged, , eh, we all make mistakes, but if I'm calling the shots, I think I call that one out

havent said anything yet, gonna stick to the plan and let this spring through still I think, relatively small, said he opend up the space I had been asking for, see how he acts through this, but its a pretty hard 'no' for anything beyond right now

Well, when I say "cut off", I mean cut off....As in I will never speak to you, ever again, I don't want to see you, I don't want to think about you, I don't know you, and I don't wanna know you. (That's security too btw.....if they're out, they're out........and, frankly,it beats the alternative in some cases.......

Ahh, I see, I was thinking suburban, I see, in that case, will probably just make a longer walk, and of course, yeah, not gonna access in something while someone watching/nearby,

Well, still might apply....people do still walk.......and, another angle to whole method.....ie: Everything in bags, smaller store bags....if you can';t fit it into a bunch of bags, then don't do it (well, at least in my case...bags are one thing, and, granted, sometimes, 10 bags in each hand.., but, nevertheless, looks like walking home from store....

c'mmmmon, how often do we actually read into anything the first time around, oh be assured, I have been from start to finish in this, not scanning, but reading, some pic links were missed originally, i think because was like 5 hours straight reading couple days in a row, lol, some points were missed, because have better understanding now, so,

actually, with re-reading thread, picking up so much more than first time still, have been motivated to pick up some old books, hoping to see twice as much the second time around

N'KKKKKKkkkkkkaaaaaayyyy.........

 

[Julian]

Yeah...physical activity.......

Make no mistake, even the "small" things work and help out good.....ie: unpacking, mixing, filling 200-300-400+ containers at a time...........hand watering/dipping hundreds at a time for prep, etc.....early season my arms get sore when watering 3-500 at a time.....

If out walking, running, pass a park, might stop and do as many pull ups/chin ups as I can if equipment there to do it, etc......I'm a fanatic man, I beat the fuck out of myself.....but, as above....can't handle that?......How are you gonna handle a 12 hr day of back breaking work when it's 100 degrees, 100% humidity, and no wind ya know?.....

It ain't "free".......by a long shot...

I'm pretty in to this season at this point.........starting to get anxious......I can feel the fanaticism starting to bubble up in me here and there.......

Edit: Auger?, "heavy", well, yes and no.......No if your picking it up.....fuckin yes if you have to throw it over your shoulder and carry it long distances for extended period, and even more so if up and down steep land....

Mini's, couple bags full of things?.....well, no, but when you throw in water for planting, dry mix of nutes, shovel, gloves, etc, etc, and, have to carry long distances (and look like it's just groceries), and even run with it if site requires it (access, out of sight quick), then, yeah (water about 8lbs a gallon I think, so...5 gallons, your at 40lbs without anything else, and, basically holding all bags with just a couple fingers.......and can't be walking down the street carrying bags with gloves on ....), so....it all adds up, and every little thing you do today serves you down the road....my mini runs I usually do....I dunno...earlier in thread.....20-30 liters worth of nutes and crystals (liquid for planting...), what is that...4 liters to the gallon?....

You know....I'm of the "shut the fuck up, stop your fuckin whining and fuckin do what you gotta do" school of thought

(Which should be noted that I don't hesitate to turn that stance on myself also sometimes )

Would I rather be somewhere else? Fuck yeah , would I rather not have to bust my ass? Damn straight....but, you do what you gotta do, and, the more work you do at one time, is the less you have to do in future, or, similarly: The more you get in and established, the farther ahead you are....(Which is bullshit though, because a lot of the time, after initial done, and, I rest a little (day or so ) I get right back into that mode and that's how I started doing em all season long....why not take advantage of the time if possible, ya know? .....

 

[GroBoy2000]

I watched Ep1, just earlier, I'd say some intelligent stuff

Also, got some 'peace of mind' issues resolved, so, while I'd like to plan myself out of peace again (not just grow, but other things to tend to), think I'll sit down and watch half the the season (1) now

 

[vod]

yeah and i shall continue with season 5. i watched half of season 1 a few days ago and loved it was really cool to see it again

 

[GeorgeSmiley]

Well, when I say "cut off", I mean cut off....As in I will never speak to you, ever again, I don't want to see you, I don't want to think about you, I don't know you, and I don't wanna know you. (That's security too btw.....if they're out, they're out........and, frankly,it beats the alternative in some cases.......

You can't waste time with an anchor trailing you around to your plots I guess ..... dead weight needs to be dealt with right away..... 1 rotten apple, etc because it gets harder and harder every year to deal with someone especially if they've been there 5,10,20 years and have done the damn thing every time.... then he wants to start a hobby, business is going to good to beak away and set up. And you're fucked. I'd like to think it's a business decision but I know when you get let down it's more than that, emotions etc.

And it changes "just like that" Whats that saying about "best friends and money, I lost em both"

 

[Julian]

I won't touch on specifics, and not the case as above, but, I will say, I ask in return for nothing more than I offer.

My expectations of others, are what I assume others expect of me.

Dependability, honesty, loyalty, trust, honor and respect have become far too large a laundry list these days..........

And it's a shame...

I don't feel any or all are too much to ask of anyone, anywhere, anytime.

All are effortless.

My recent problems lie in "disappointments"........A simple request, easily performed, that is very important, not completed.........

ie: If you can't be trusted to complete such simple things....then I would be a fool to trust one to do other things in future of possibly much greater importance......ie: You let me down?, no way I am able to trust again, because anything that happens then is my fault, not yours.

 

[GeorgeSmiley]

I won't touch on specifics, and not the case as above, but, I will say, I ask in return for nothing more than I offer.

My expectations of others, are what I assume others expect of me.

Dependability, honesty, loyalty, trust, honor and respect have become far too large a laundry list these days..........

And it's a shame...

I don't feel any or all are too much to ask of anyone, anywhere, anytime.

All are effortless.

But human nature is built on a big letdown. You can expect, under-expect things from people but if they got some flake in em or some quit in em then its sorry don't let you mouth speak my name.

Recently I got let down, nothing big but never expected it, figured we were on the same page. It's still fucking with my brain, can't get past it, wanna deal with it differently in the future so I read and read. I felt he matched your laundry list and all was good but it wasn't so here I type.

I'm learning not to expect anything, just let it be known to people that I'm going to deal with it swift, sharpish. I'm sure that I'm asking a lot but fuck it, IT'S A LOT

 

[RudolfTheRed]

Dependability, honesty, loyalty, trust, honor and respect have become far too large a laundry list these days..........

And it's a shame...

Hear!!! Hear!!! This is why I find myself working alone 99.99% of the time no matter what it is. It seems like you can't trust anyone these days.

 

[islandgrow]

trust is a dangerous thing.

dependability is the biggest thing I find people missing. Of course when you present them the idea, they are all for it, but when it comes time, often before that. You find your self reminding them and reminding them to make that 100 grand this summer...

 

[Guest]

Some Rollins Lyrics for the fans!

"I walked green miles of jungle / I walked through yellow miles of pain
I crossed starvation's desert / Watched dead rivers swell with rain
The song of insects filled the air / Nights in cites of despair
Where killer's sons said, son beware / And all the roads from here to there
I sailed the sea of desolation / Dropped my anchor there
Plumbed the depths of isolation / Walked its length and was not scared
Went from end to end to end / And then from there I went again
The road that only this one knows / Off to nowhere here I go
Illumination comes so hard / Makes me see but leaves its scars
At times I wish that I didn't know what I know now
Thought and thought until I lost my mind
Looked and looked until I went near blind
The path is fair but so unkind
At night the highway's diesel roar / Speaks to me and tells me more
Than any book I've ever read / Or anything you ever said
With silent eyes inside / I watch myself and worlds collide
The seasons burn and crack my skin / I stay outside and live within"

 

[Julian]

The "family man".............

A man who knows the meaning of "responsibilities"........

A man who understands the concept of "obligations"............

A man who understands the need to protect oneself and those around them from losing what they need.......what is important to them........

A man who cares because he won't be waking up tomorrow in a different place, with a different woman, and a different job.......

Unfortunately...."family men" are no strangers to work, work, and more work, and such is not something out of the ordinary for them.....

All of the above are not readily found in, let's say (no offense intended to anyone ), a late teen, mid 20's-30's male, non homeowner, single, lacking career, lacking direction, etc.......

I can say my main problems with partners have been when I have attempted to bring someone in to help them.........to....help......them...

Ie: I see you are in a bad situation, I see you need help......I am willing to help you, I am willing to help you help yourself.......I am willing to bring you in on something I have, longstanding and solid...

And you fuck me.

That is the kind of shit which makes my blood absolutely boil........all loss of logic, reason, rationale.............

Anyway...........

Yeah.....tough job trying to convince people to let you help them.......

(Does my disappointment and anger show clearly? )

Fuckin people..........

 

[marto]

Do you really need partners Julian. Do you really need helpers? Why not downsize to the point where you just do much smaller projects by yourself and say goodbye to all the headaches. Getting back to basics man. C'mon youd still do well. Why do you still need to be in the game to this extent. I'm just worried at some point your luck is gonna run out. Every associate is a potential liability dont ya think? Sorry for being so blunt

 

[Julian]

You think you could run a Wal Mart alone?

 

[Guest]

You think you could run a Wal Mart alone?

Oh I could run a Wal Mart by myself. Everything would suffer and I'd be a mess but yeah I could run it by myself. And that's your point, isn't it?

 

[Swamp Thang]

I guess old fool is pointing out that even as a totally inept sole administrator of Wallmart, the risk of losing that most prized human posession - FREEDOM, would be zero, which is a way better deal than the perils in store for anyone running Budmart with assistance from a cast of dozens who all must be absolutely trustworthy to keep lady luck happy.

 

[GroBoy2000]

Julian pointed out a very good selection criteria earlier - Family men. The family man has responsibilities and most of them are already working hard for a lot less reward than some 'self employment' can offer.

Lot of people have lost - work ethic, pride, balls, drive, whatever it is that seperates the men from the boys. Want a button to push or a pill to take to make whatever slight discomfort they may feel go away - that's your neutered manhood screaming you pussy phuks!

Yeah you noticed that too huh? A lot of you can look at, but, on the basics, are they good to their family, do they care, and try to provide for them?

Tells you a world about their values and where you might fit in with them, they got kids, they pay attention to and are good with, aint no way in hell they want anyone with a gun running up in their house, and a lot of young people never thinki about protecting themselves it seems,

Some Rollins Lyrics for the fans!

"I walked green miles of jungle / I walked through yellow miles of pain
I crossed starvation's desert / Watched dead rivers swell with rain
The song of insects filled the air / Nights in cites of despair
Where killer's sons said, son beware / And all the roads from here to there
I sailed the sea of desolation / Dropped my anchor there
Plumbed the depths of isolation / Walked its length and was not scared
Went from end to end to end / And then from there I went again
The road that only this one knows / Off to nowhere here I go
Illumination comes so hard / Makes me see but leaves its scars
At times I wish that I didn't know what I know now
Thought and thought until I lost my mind
Looked and looked until I went near blind
The path is fair but so unkind
At night the highway's diesel roar / Speaks to me and tells me more
Than any book I've ever read / Or anything you ever said
With silent eyes inside / I watch myself and worlds collide
The seasons burn and crack my skin / I stay outside and live within"

Never heard of him, but some really beautiful lyrics, I'm a 'road' man myself, and live and find many sides of life

Far too many pussies, most people you shouldn't even consider for a work partner, you'll know when you're working beside a real worker cos they're too busy working to tell you shit about how good they are at it.

Well put

 

[GroBoy2000]

A man who understands the need to protect oneself and those around them from losing what they need.......what is important to them........

A man who cares because he won't be waking up tomorrow in a different place, with a different woman, and a different job.......

you fucking said it brother, only makes natural sense, a man who cares, a man with reason to care like a motherfucker, a man that can understand and value something more than money or good times

just wish i knew more of them

All of the above are not readily found in, let's say (no offense intended to anyone ), a late teen, mid 20's-30's male, non homeowner, single, lacking career, lacking direction, etc.......

good criteria, but Im wandering if you work with people who would also never harm anyone, the kinda guy thats good-hearted, works all the time, but just doesnt have the nuts to get confrontational

yeah, fucking dissapointments man, yesterday, real real busy, trying to get shit in the ground when appropriate, no net access yesterday, call my friend, "hey, hows the weather...no really, whats it like?"
"well, umm...i dunno really"
"well, you think you could check it out"
"ummm, how do I do that"
I tell him, very easy, -15 day forecast _____(your city) in any search bar, will get you results, tell him, call me back when you know
last night at 1am, and no results, again, something as simople as check the fucking weather

the thing that beats the shit out of me is I never saw guy paying attention this little back a few months ago, tried to create the most genuine interest and concern, I was foward with the plan, said what I needed, very very little, and everything asked for has been late getting done, laid out a few new rules,

anyway, fuckin a, trying to put money in someones pocket, and they wont even pull on their fucking pants