150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......
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cjk said:i think you got it backwards. the HPS should have in the range of the 21,000 lumens and the MH should have around the 13,000 lumens. anyway, the MH is for veg, and HPS for flowering. good luck
I've never seen any 150 watt HPS bulb that was 21,000 lumens, they're usually around 16,000.
softy 12pack
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hi guys
got a question, all i have is seeds from bags i bought, all schwag the 20$ a quarter kind, I have alot hundreds, if i pick out the biggest best looking seeds out will they have crystals on the leaves like the brand names like ak? or will the plants grow brown and have a naturally bad taste? i cant order seeds, in fact my hashbeery and satori never showed up from my last attempt.
got a question, all i have is seeds from bags i bought, all schwag the 20$ a quarter kind, I have alot hundreds, if i pick out the biggest best looking seeds out will they have crystals on the leaves like the brand names like ak? or will the plants grow brown and have a naturally bad taste? i cant order seeds, in fact my hashbeery and satori never showed up from my last attempt.
softy 12pack said:
Yo, bagseeds can be great, it all depends. If you click on my first grow, that was from a bagseed. If you click on my second grow, those seeds were bought. Now, the first grow turned out just as good as the second grow, maybe even a little better, since the buds were bigger. So, it all depends. If you have crap bagseeds, then you will get crap weed. If you have bagseed that came from a bag of nice, dank weed that you bought, then you just might end up with some nice weed also when you grow them out.
DiscoDuck
Member
softy 12pack said:
I agree with greenhead, better than average swag can and will produce good smoke, if it's allowed to finish to maturity and is cured right. I don't have a secure addy and all my grows are from bag seed pot I buy on the street. I feel ya softy 12pack, the seeds pile up fast. I don't even bother keeping seeds from less than average quality weed so this keeps the numbers down. When I get an above average bag, I label the seeds according to traits I identify with the strain, like flavor, smell or otherwise memorable logo.
The only problem with bag seed, it's not easy to tell what factors like stretch and nute uptake will occur. I've found that if I grow a strain and clone the same for the next grow I can anticipate the individual traits.
Here's some bag seed, indica dominant at five weeks 12/12.
Greeseyder
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I bet some bagseed would be great but I almost never get bags with seed (I know poor me) a LOT of commercial is handled so shitty that the quality is way lower than if you grew it & harvested with care.....hopefully with the new strains I won't have to ever buy bags again!
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sugabear_II said:hey HH thanks so much for posting the capacitor needed and and those links... the power factor issue has always been a tough one for me to explain but you said it nicely - never thought about the heat though - good point to remember
and as he mentioned and was brought to my attention in the DIY remote ur ballast thread the latest answer is that e-conolight 150s are pretty bad power factor lamps...
so please folks consider the venture kits (link on page1 of this thread) which include a capacitor.
here's a diagram I did for with capacitor - HH I am pretty sure it's right -does it look right to you?
and a copy more traditional diagrams
Excellent diagrams!!!
I wouldn't bother adding a capacitor to as small a light as a 150W HPS. There is "some" savings to be obtained. We are consuming about $10 to $20 a month in power and the savings by correcting the pf is under $5.
Power factor is a concern in industry where energy is wasted or more accurately billed excessivly when big electric motors are used.
pubfargo
New member
Hi, thanks for the safety tips. If you unplug your ballast do you know how long the capacitor will hold it's charge?
Pipedream said:
Hey All. Things are really looking great here. Grows and cabs are both excellent!
I just wanted to drop in my two cents on the capacitor issue, so here are two thoughts each worth a penny......
First off, while capacitors do offer an advantage by improving the power factor and thereby also lowering the heat, they can be fairly expensive for some of our less established growers. But fear not, they are readily available free of charge as long as you don't mind a bit of dumpster diving or trash scrounging. Virtually every old air-conditioner you see in the trash will have one or two inside for the taking. They are called Start and Run caps in this situation, and can have the same or even larger ratings.
Second thought, large caps are like an animal with a bad temperament, handle them the wrong way, and they WILL bite you. The larger the capacitor, the bigger the teeth it has. While a cap stores energy just like a battery, by nature they are designed to give up their entire charge instantaneously. Over my career as an engineer, I've seen plenty of melted screwdrivers, techs with bad finger burns, and several get knocked right on their asses from not being careful. A properly sized cap for a 150w HPS isn’t going to kill you, but it could give you a good scare and make you drop what you are holding. Work safe & work smart, always discharge a cap or a circuit containing one before you start. A good method is to use a 20,000 ohm resistor. And, pull the plug from the wall first, and ask if you aren’t sure of what you are doing.
JMHO feel free to disregard any or all of it.
One Love, PD
DiscoDuck
Member
pubfargo said:
until you discharge it, theoretically forever.
Pipedream suggests you discharge any capacitor before touching the leads:
"Work safe & work smart, always discharge a cap or a circuit containing one before you start. A good method is to use a 20,000 ohm resistor. And, pull the plug from the wall first, and ask if you aren’t sure of what you are doing."
The St. said:hey guys! im at day 48 of flowering, my trichs are about 99% cloudy im gonna let her go a few more days and then shes gettin the chop! ive got 4 others in there now that are on their 19th day of flower...
Peace!
Looks good. What strain is that? She looks pretty sativa dom to me and those can stay cloudy for weeks! You should wait at least another week i say...Unless there is space problems. Is that 48 days from 12/12 or first pistils?
Good luck, looks like she will be some nice smoke whenever you chop her.
bluebuds - There really isn't anything wrong with the e-conolights at all. Lots of folks use them with nothing added, and have great results. And at 20 bucks U.S., they are hard to beat for someone on a limited budget or just starting out and learning. In fact, plenty of folks (myself included) use them and never upgrade to a more expensive solution.
pubfargo
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Replaced 20 year old HPS bulb
Replaced 20 year old HPS bulb
I didn't know until reading this thread that an HPS bulb degrades so much after time. Well I finally replaced my 20 year old 150 HPS bulb today, and what a difference. I think my old bulb was the equivalent of like a 100 or maybe even 70 HPS. Oh well you live and learn. It was only used a few of those 20 years, but still wow.
Replaced 20 year old HPS bulb
I didn't know until reading this thread that an HPS bulb degrades so much after time. Well I finally replaced my 20 year old 150 HPS bulb today, and what a difference. I think my old bulb was the equivalent of like a 100 or maybe even 70 HPS. Oh well you live and learn. It was only used a few of those 20 years, but still wow.
Ive got some new ladies going in my box!!! i'll get some pics up in the next few days, but i gotta delete a bunch of crap from my camera first.
Just a sneak peak at the list
(clones from MMJ despenseries in SF)
GDP
Blueberry
Somango
and in the veg box, seedlings starting out
Sadhu
Hashberry
core's mongrul
Trainwreck (bagseed)
Afghan Kush (bagseed)
Also in the veg box is my grape ape that i re-veged from my first grow which was a grape ape bagseed from a MMJ club in SF. She was the best looking, tasting, smelling, growing, producing of all 4 females i got from the 1/8th of grape ape that was bagseed.
I hope to re-vamp my veg setup and get clones of each of these strains to mother out. I'll probably be gifting all my extras to the local outdoor friends of mine just in time for the season.
Hopefully, i'll switch the ones in the flower box in the next week or so to flowering, take clones from each of em, then in the next few weeks after that, take the seedlings, take clones from em, throw em into the flower box to sex, toss the males, keep the clones of the females and mother em out. If all goes well the timing will be right and by the time the strains inthe flower box are done, the clones from seed will be ready to go in and flower out, then back and forth, whichever is the best growing in the setup and best to help my symptoms for which ive been prescribed MMJ will be kept and put into rotation, while the others will hopefully be gifted away to someone who will use em for a good cause.
Stay tuned for the pictures here to come soon!
Just a sneak peak at the list
(clones from MMJ despenseries in SF)
GDP
Blueberry
Somango
and in the veg box, seedlings starting out
Sadhu
Hashberry
core's mongrul
Trainwreck (bagseed)
Afghan Kush (bagseed)
Also in the veg box is my grape ape that i re-veged from my first grow which was a grape ape bagseed from a MMJ club in SF. She was the best looking, tasting, smelling, growing, producing of all 4 females i got from the 1/8th of grape ape that was bagseed.
I hope to re-vamp my veg setup and get clones of each of these strains to mother out. I'll probably be gifting all my extras to the local outdoor friends of mine just in time for the season.
Hopefully, i'll switch the ones in the flower box in the next week or so to flowering, take clones from each of em, then in the next few weeks after that, take the seedlings, take clones from em, throw em into the flower box to sex, toss the males, keep the clones of the females and mother em out. If all goes well the timing will be right and by the time the strains inthe flower box are done, the clones from seed will be ready to go in and flower out, then back and forth, whichever is the best growing in the setup and best to help my symptoms for which ive been prescribed MMJ will be kept and put into rotation, while the others will hopefully be gifted away to someone who will use em for a good cause.
Stay tuned for the pictures here to come soon!
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