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ATOMIC NORTHERN LIGHTS??

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if you are messing with some ones meds then it sux .say you have cancer and northern lights is the only strain that sets you up.then getting a sativa after all the time and money you are out and ferts .then that sux becues of time and now you have to look for a new strain.
 

HerbGlaze

Eugene Oregon
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Id have to agree wait it out, because if there were numerous reports seedbay/seedboutique would take Dr.Atomic's seeds off the seed list.. hope all goes well, just wait =D
 
G

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for seed why do we pay so much for seeds .i am saving up the money to buy Mr.nice super silver haze which is close to 200 a pack.i say some growers pool thar money together and buy seeds and grow them out and seed the best out of the pack make f2 and split the seed between the ones who put up the cash and every one will have espensive genetics and have a lot more seeds to grow out.
 
Sorry to hear about your dilemma PK... I wouldn't write him off just because you ended up w/a Sativa leaning plant. How many seeds did you start? what was the germination #? What about the sex ratio?

Sometimes it's just the luck of the draw. Hang in there!
I had great luck w/his BLx NL...

5 plants/32 ozs...



I'd at least let 'em finish...
Best of luck to to you!
 
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DocLeaf

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pseudo krypto said:
ya know what pisses me off? ,,,,if i wanted sativa i wouldnt be buying NL.

that doesn't make sense :chin:

Northern Lights = Afghan x Thai


hope this helps
peace dLeaf :joint:
 
G

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Northern Lights was originally an attempt to produce a Thai type high under lights, and if you ever grew or smoked Nl back in the early 90s, it wasn't all that indica at all, it became more and more indica over the years as the Dutch companioes selected for shrot flowering and high yield. There is a seedline called NL90 that is one generation removed from the NL that was sold in 1990 and it's quite tall, quite thin leaves and still has the Thai type high. It is said that if you smoke a fair bit of Nl90 a body stone builds up, but it's mostly a Thai high not a heavy stone.

Dr Atomic does use the words 'short and stocky' in his description, not something I remember from the NL I grew in the mid 90s, mine were tall and slender and grew large single colas as I didn't top them. Perhaps there was a mixup and you actually have Thai Lights (Thai x NL) rather than NL.

Just how tall are your NLs? Perhaps they have stretched? Perhaps you should send a pic to Dr Atomic and see what he says, he might replace the seeds. The thin leaves might not indicate that the plant won't be a heavy indica stone, I have a couple of heavy hitters that have quite thin leaves such as Hash Plant (Seedsman) and G13 x Kush.

I am fairly sure Dr Atomic's NL is based on old Dutch seeds from the early 90s, if so, it makes sense that it still has the Thai-like high of the old NL.

I can recommend things like LUI, Black Domina and Sensi Star if you want a heavy indica. Durga Mata is also a killer.

I can't find any full plant pics of the NL I had a while back, but you can see the leaves are fairly thin in this pic:

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10 seeds, 9 germed, 4 fems, the nl was decscribed as mostly indy to me that means relatively fat leaves, short stature etc. its not the end of the world but its just a bummer, i was gonna go w the bb x nl but didnt and now i wish i did, i guess i just better start saving for my next order, thanks everybody for lookin in and your all inputs
peace
 
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Yeah, quite understandable why you thought that way, all the NL you can buy in Dutch coffeeshops these days is pretty indica, nowadays Nl is thought of as beign indica, so either you have an old NL variation or a NL x sativa hybrid.

I understand why you're miffed, probably stil lworth sending a pic of the plants to Dr Atomic and asking if they look like his NL as it could be a seed mixup and you have one of his NL hybrids. If that's the case, he should replace them free of charge. Offer to return the original seed packet if you still have it to prove they are his NL beans.

I'm a sativa guy and haven't got any really heavy indicas, I have some old NL beans though, but I doubt they will be of any more use to you than the ones you already have.
 

subrob

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psuedo-those pics are from plants that grew to over 5' incl. the planter. the high was a pretty thumpin stone. if i remember right, i heard that doc got seed stock from sensi and crossed it with an nl strain that had worked its way to canada back in the day. I do remember having some of the same thoughts you have when i grew her, but i ended up very happy. i hope you do too!
 
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Hey psudeo and others,

After my initial post yesterday i continued to consider this thread. I have grown out 4 different NL strains. Sensi, Dr. atomic, Joey's f2, and peak seeds. I looked back at notes and NONE of the NL strains had big fat indica leaves with the exception of JOEY's and they're f2s which are naturally expressing one of thier indica ancestors.

I'd try to gather all the facts i could before making to many conclusions and I would reserve my final conclusions until 15 minutes after you smoke that first joint and that shouldn't be until they've had a good 60 days in cure. Its hard but be patient.

My 2 cents.
 
G

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if you want a good northern light looking plant that smokes like a northern lights and gives big yields go with chronic serious seeds.






 

pHrail

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Been looking to get some Dr.Atomic NL also, the threads I've been seeing lately are so mixed and not looking that great when it comes to the Dr. Would love some of the NL that I remember from the early 90's, it was so distinct, I'm not sure if these breeders are bullshitting or if any of them are carrying the real deal. Wasting the time, money and space to find out just isn't feasible for a lot of people including myself, especially when there are some real quality strains out there. I really think this site needs to come up with a better strain guide, one that will allow reviews, grow pictures and specifics to the actual breeders and origins of the strains for contrast and comparison, also with specific genetic background as well. Having the forums is great, but having a comprehensive guide would be nice, perhaps a wiki of some sort that would allow comments, reviews, photos and perhaps videos, along with feeding information, genetic information, breeder information, etc. Seems like there are too many mix ups when it comes to getting the right strains from seeds, or that a lot of these strains coming from breeders are just simply inferior or bullshit hybrids that are not true to what they are supposed to be. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the plants, grow them out fully to their best potential, you may or may not be surprised, but those look like sativa dom to me, sucks. Peace
 

biotek

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dr atomic is a well respected breeder here in canada I have growin out all his strains, if I had to take a guess you may have got atomic haze.I would contact the retailer and plead your case. north light is the dr"s breeding stock and has been for a long time.I will try to find some of my atomic haze pic for you and post them.I hope that it was just a mix up but if it is the haze your in for a real treat, even it wasnt what you order.
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im not trying to bash the doc, the plants are lookin vigorus i guess i just got mad when it didnt match the picture in my head, if there wasnt a mixup the doc should revise his description, thank for your support BH subrob and everybody else, dan woody i heard the chronic lacks some taste and kick, what did you think? ill post some updated pics pretty soon when the co2 is startin to kick , i found the original envelope , does anybody got the docs email? thanks and good lookin out
 

clowntown

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No! :nono: Drop this peace treaty attempt, and sue the doc for his license to practice! Then he might just have to call himself "Male Nurse Atomic".

Maybe "Atomic, Male Nurse" (or "Atomic, Nurse (Male)").

It's time for WAR!!!
 

DIGITALHIPPY

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pseudo krypto said:
im not trying to dis the smoke frankfurter, its probably good, im dissin the fact that i ordered a mostly indica plant and got leggy sativas, if i wanted a sativa northern lights would not be my choice, im looking for a short thick indy dom plant to sog and thats why i ordered
northern lights, i got rid of my NL5 mom because she was real old and was lacking vigor,
if they turn out like subrobs ill have some killer smoke but still no mom
thanks for the pics subrob, mouthwatering
does anybody got the docs ph #?
thanks

should have done WAY more reaserch.
NL is a sativa.
pure and simple sativa sativa sativa....
just like haze's sativa sativa sativa, you can cross-em with indica. but they'll still be part sativa.

i actualy just got thoes atonic NL seeds today, and cant wait to pop-em also have atomics NL x blueberry.

why didnt you just buy a kush if u wanted a indica? or legends LUI?
 

oldtoker

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i think perhaps the misguidedness is from nl's high yield more then likely, people like to think sativas don't yield like indicas(not sure why) btw imagine being the guy that acutalley crossed his huge thai to whatever the nl's mom or dad was and working it way back then, just to get that high to a place he could grow it indors and still feel the sativa love. probley took alot of work...... props to whoever that cat was, all the nl's i smoked was a heavy high harvested at the right time it will blow ur head up. but i don't know if any of these breeders can really remake that old classic nl' strain.
 
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