Finding FatDandy..

[mossy]

You know I always think good root systems maketh the plant...
this is micro's roots..excellent..
he does grow a mean plant in that hydro system..



amazing..


kenzler..you see that first photo..before the overheads...
that is what I was going to try to explain yesterday..
I always look at my girls from the top..then the bottom up.
When you look at an afghan..from the bottom..she flashes white at you..like a rabbits tail...that is what I can see on yours there.

Photo #2 in the overheads..leaf stem colour..is that red..or purple..?

photo 3 overheads..is that red pistills..or just the ginger colour as they are going over...?


pipe..you got through your snowstorm okay m8..?

 

[mossy]

Heres the girls..in same order. White Russians.
#1

#2


#3



This is the Red JEMS..and the prospective Father...with the arrow..



I have been searching Kush..and came across this quote..

"The drug is really quite a remarkably safe one for humans, although it
is really quite a dangerous one for mice and they should not use it."
J.W.D Henderson
Director of the Bureau of Human Drugs, Health and Welfare, Canada

Come on you lot..what are you Men or Mice...
Time to get the weekend started...
have a Good 'un

WAMEN..you are right..that one that kenzler is showing @ 5 weeks..
is the #2 & #3 pheno..
so I will keep an eye on those 2 for the next couple of weeks..

ATM..I am thinking #2 for the straight cross..because she is a bit more mature than #3..and the male WR is busting balls..
so I can islotate them out shortly.

#3 for the Darcey cross..because I think she need the extra time to mature..and so does the Red male.

 

[kenzler]

Chers mossy
To try and answer some of the questions the stems go deep purple for some reason always get it but dont know why?
Thought it was something i was doing wrong.
Pistols i would say is from the change over but could not say 100% im not tech enough to look for stuff like that but i will keep my eyes open on the next grow i do in the summer lol
I have noticed though with the russians they do carry a slight pink which moved to a darker red as the buds mature later on im sure i will have a pic will have to check for us all now.

The pictures showing the girl @ 5 and 6 weeks was the monster i showed you outside in the end
She showed loads of side branching at this stage which i think helped the lower bud structure compact together in the later stages.
Yours are coming along great and showing this multi branch stage i noticed and all this in the winter months i cant believe it. I did not think she could cope outside at this time of year but it shows she is a strong breed

How are the Ak's coming on mate still a little sluggish??

I cant wait to see how Darcey's plant will come along i really should start thinking of a name for it
From your experience with the red jem what sort of plant will we be looking at????

This is a good example of a slight change in color to the russian. You dont see it all the time but it does pop up now and then






Forgot to ask mossy did you have some of the White Russian x Masterlow cross?? Just going through the fridge seeing what i have left

 

[mossy]

WRussian girls in grow cupboard ATM..but the WR male is just in the tent..and we are Cold.

That colour on the leaf stems..I am using as a clue to afghan heritage..it seems a common factor...so I watch.

Seeing the monster at that stage..I can see the growth pattern..so I can pin that pheno to #2 & #3.

I am not changing my mind on #1..
I have seen this pheno before..and I think you will all be surprised at how fast the leggy bird fattens..when she is ready.
Something about #1 says special pheno to me..but I cannot define it yet.

When I isolated the Red @f3..WAMEN says that the red is a Kush trait...
I got the red..but my taste didn't match up to what he described..IMO..
that is why I am chasing up my info...

I want a Red/pink Russian..with a Kush attitude..for the start of your Darcey Dynasty.

The AK-47 are brilliant..the male seems to be having probs in the tent..but the girls are beauts..I am watching for partners for them.
One got a bit singed under the lights..and she has taken the huff for a few days...but she will be fine..

 

[kenzler]

Red Russian sounds great mate Purple russian sounds great also
This season is going to be fun and a little easier for you mossy as you dont have to pin down the Auto trait in this project.

Sorry to ask lads but what is the latest with the Deep Chunk project?
I been out of the loop for such a long time now

Back in a little bit got the bottles to get ready for the day

 

[mossy]

Leading lady on the AK-47's..she looks tasty to me.

 

[kenzler]

I find these a little slower on the start but im interested to see how fast they pick up compared to the russians...

Quick question mossy what is the make up of this purple girl i have growing?
I think it is the maz x lownranger yes? but what was in the Lowranger after
Sorry my memory is crap at the moment!!!

 

[mossy]

New parent syndrome kenzler...

JEMS are pure mazar x lowryder IBL.

Yes the AK-47's were slower on the start..but they have passed the height of the WR's now..

This is the 2 AK girls..including the one with the singe..


WR at the front centre photo..look diagonally back to the left..under the wire..the tallest one is the AK..bit too cold to let them out of their hut today..

 

[kenzler]

Some lovely pics mate

How old are they now then (days) at a guess i wold think about 30 ish??
Russians take about 70 days give or take to give that mind numbing stone.
I found 70 was better as you get a nice little rush to start with then the stone kicks in after 10 minutes
It's one of those you think i should have another to get there and by the time you rolled it and just started it your fooked!!!

Forgot to say the russians should really get about 1 foot to 18 inches tall mate if what i have done is correct

 

[mossy]

The WR cleared the soil xmas day..the AK a few days later.
Then they got stopped by a severe drop in night temps...so they are all a touch behind..
unless our temps dramatically improve..I may run after 70 days.
Especially if they are seeded.

 

[Buddle]

Hey guys,
I know y'all still don't know who I am but once I get enough pms we'll be straight..lol..
Hint: I'm one of just a few people to have Mossy's full set fom JLP's MM. Holla!!
P.S.I have some killer DC beans for y'all?

 

[WAMEN]

thanks for the kindness abut them WR's kenzler.. im sure somebody will figure out how to pass some this way pretty soon

WAMEN..can we put those two different phenos down for a test-smoke once the harvest is done.
Then we can find which is the most dom by taste. I am sure that is the best way to define them.

sure we can mate just a few days more and we can re-start the testing..

WAMEN..you are right..that one that kenzler is showing @ 5 weeks..
is the #2 & #3 pheno..
so I will keep an eye on those 2 for the next couple of weeks..

well.. actually it seems like the branching style of Kenzler's 5weeker is the same of your #1 .. side branching is reasonable even on high internodes... which is a non-LR trait...
but the leaf style is more similar to your #3 or 2.. but they look more lowriderish to me.. tendance to build the central cola instead of those long branches ive seen on the Table pheno.. theyre more compact and bud sites have the tendance to stay close to the central stem from what i see.. may be light conditions.. but it looks quite a dilemma..

another quote from mossy

WAMEN says that the red is a Kush trait...
I got the red..but my taste didn't match up to what he described..IMO.

when did i tell you this? this is not right mate.. i always look nothing but the structure/formation of the bud..resin amount and all the rest that you know..
but i never said red is a kush trait.. may be present in some kush phenos but it cant be considered as a general quality.
the last time i said the word "red" was to describe those Psider buds you sent me...

 

[kenzler]

No Worries im sure some can and will get your away and i also have a Russian crossed with Masterlow which i found gave a shorter plant but more resin.
Never really played with them much but you never know.
Im looking forward to a friend coming back of holidays soon as i know he has some smashing Auto's that are not out there for the gen publie and there could be something in them for us to play with.

I must still say it but if anyone has a G13 Automatic please pm me as i been hunting this for over a year now as i know its out there and also the Autmatic version of Ice.

If you would like some more pics mossy of the russians let me know and i can post them up there are shit loads of them at many stages as said.
I'm sure we can lock this one down.

Funny thing mossy was these beans when i got them did the same as yours.
Seed would crack tap root drop then nothing or the seed would come out back to front.
It took me 2 inbred lines to get rid of this not sure why it happened but it did !!!
I worked on the russian from a 75% auto trait and it was in one word all over the shot (not one word lol)
You would get anyting from a micro to a 3 foot monster.
I still think the 1 foot to 16 inches that i looked for in my girls were the right choice for me as the larger girls brought in no more than the shorter stocky girls..
I will try and hunt a few more pics now lads


Nany not sleeping very well so i got time to get some done for you boys

these are russians close to chopping then the 7 Oz dried off them which is good for 10 weeks i think
You can see they all look pretty uniform yes?

 

[kenzler]

Okay dug out a good selection for you all so mossy can comapre as the weeks go on
All of these are the Auto White Russian (My version not others out there)
I still have many many more but i would get banned for spamming i think

 

[mossy]

Dang..dang..I have been labouring under a misaprehension...
You are going to have to help me place this red then..anyone that has seen reds..let me know what you saw them on.
Last search on it..I came up with blue mystic..and columbian red..anybody know more than those two...?

I will be back shortly to peruse the info and photos..

In our house..if you don't shop..you dont eat..so I have to go to the market..or starve all weekend..

 

[Rastanfisk]

In our house..if you don't shop..you dont eat..so I have to go to the market..or starve all weekend..

HEHE


Love your tread Mossy

 

[mossy]

Rastanfisk..welcome m8..cheers..I know my place..


Guy SO much info..I will come in a bit at a time..but I will be back with it all in due time..as fast as I can.
I swear these bloody red males are starting to leer at the White Russian females..so I need to get them out..rapido..


WAMEN..I apologise in advance for the grey hairs I am going to cause you this season...

but I need to know...so can I go back to basics..
These are the first Just afghans I grew..nirvana seed.
These are the 2 phenos I have running through the present grow.

#1 is the one my greedy eye.. likes best.
buds very rounded at the Top..fat-head..tapering down.
Leaf structure always reminds me of a thistle.
This is the one Most similar to kenzlers




#2. This shape showed up on both the afghan..and the LownRanger..(afghan + Lowryder)
Bud narrow a top..tapering from top down..pointy-head..two skinny leaves at top..like sticky up ears.




Both had distinct Lemon smell.
#1..like lemon sherbet..it got up yer nose and made you sneeze.
#2..like soap..or expensive..old-fashioned after-shave..

In your opinion..which of these 2 is more afghan dom...?

Have a look at kenzlers too..he has a close up of the pointy pheno.

kenzler..the photos.. shortly...

 

[kenzler]

Mate you take your time ans sort your shopping

I never really knew there was so much to know about a sativa and a indica stlye so im a complete novice myself mate.

I got to go to mothercare world now so i wont be on much of the day !!!!

Catch you all later on tonight lads

 

[mossy]

Ha ha kenzler m8..the joys...

I will post the red males first..and we will yap when you get home.

Thoughts to ponder when you are shopping..
did your AF's flower with symetric leaf/branch formation..or asymetric..?
just if you can remember... :chin




The red males are out of the pot..and into the tent.
Those 4 left in the pot. 2 are definite girls.
I expect the males to get a bit droop..as they came out by root scoop..I thought it was more important to leave the girls as undisturbed as poss...so the males lost root mass.
I put a bit of guano into the replacement soil for the girlie pot...give them muscles.

The male WR is peppering..


This is the top of the WR male..hard to see on a photo..but it is carrying a fair bit of pink. Should make the cross easier.

I still haven't got to the bottom of the germ problem..I haven't had it 'til now.
But..I thought the best thing to do is cross the ones I have coming now..and re-produce from there.
I am going to look at another storage after drying method..see how it works.

Nothing else in the cupboard looks as if it wants to sex.
They have another week..then they will be in the tent.

 

[Buddle]

Hey Mossy..you guessed it but could you edit that out thx.I can't pm yet.I'm starting the muds this week..BL