Bongs Are Bad???

[Srgt.Stadenko]

Now I caught Your attention I was reading this article and it states bongs are bad blah,blah,blah. The verdict is still out in my mind so dont flame me you gotta admit its interesting.

Water pipes: Recent research suggests that water pipes are the most harmful and least efficient methods of smoking cannabis. The water absorbs a great deal of the THC in the smoke (up to 50%!), increasing the amount of tar the smoker must ingest to get the desired result. Using a water pipe with a mouthpiece less than 20cm from the water level can allow water vapor and water drops to enter the lungs.

Here is the whole article: Whole Article

 

[SuperBudz]

50%thc i dont think that much, sounds like bogus to me, one little bong rip usually get me as stoned as a small joint. explain that shit??

 

[Srgt.Stadenko]

I was also thinking of the fact that thc in not water soluble hmmmmmmm. The Water in the Lungs is plausable but we need the mythbusters to resolve it.

 

[drunkenstoner]

thx for gettin me all paro n shit ive been smokin bongs half my life

 

[Srgt.Stadenko]

Thats what im here for Glad i can do my part

thx for gettin me all paro n shit ive been smokin bongs half my life

 

[humboldtseeds]

that is bullshit have you ever looked at bong water? it traps all the ash in the water instead of your lungs. bongs are bad if you don't keep them clean though. i clean mine everyday with alchohol and water. always use fresh water every bowl or two

 

[Mandos]

i like the part about water vapor entering your lungs ;J. of course everyone is using boiling hot water to hit the bong , otherwise how would you get the vapor at room temperature?

 

[SuperBudz]

straight up bong is more healthy then a joint, dont even need a myth busters to proove it. just commonsense. anyhow. have agood day all.

 

[Srgt.Stadenko]

There might be Truth To this guys apparently the study was done by Normal and this is what I found On wikipedia

Most smokers believe that bongs are healthier than other smoking methods; however, a 2000 NORML-MAPS study found that "water pipes filter out more psychoactive THC than they do other tars, thereby requiring users to smoke more to reach their desired effect" [6]. Smoke from cannabis supplied by the NIDA was drawn through a number of smoking devices and analyzed. A smoking machine, adjusted to mimic the puff length of cannabis smokers, drew smoke through a standard bong, a small portable bong with a folding stem, a bong with a motorized paddle that thoroughly mixes the smoke with the water, and two different types of vaporizers.

 

[mangled]

gatta take shit for what it is

 

[Srgt.Stadenko]

Here is the actual study:

http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06359mj1.html

 

[Anghellic]

Ok this may be true but look at this.

I'll take my 2 footer, with a .2 snapper in it.

I give you a joint, rolled with .2

I'm probably going to get higher off my bong, and need to smoke less weed. All of the smoke entering my lungs at one time, instead of multiple little puffs. Theres a good chance this is true, but i doubt its going to change anyones way of smoking.

 

[devilgoob]

This doesnt mean bongs are bad. Bongs cool the smoke, thats what they do, making it easier to deliver more thc at once to the brain.

 

[C21H30O2]

pretty much the study says that vapes are cleaner than bongs... no big surprise there. IT DOES NOT SAY BONGS ARE BAD. so guys stop freaking.

 

[Mr.Rogers]

This is not a recent study, I read the study at least 5 years ago. Did anyone see the special I had where I talked aout the study? I told the kids that they should smoke joints or vaporizers instead of bongs, it was a great show. I think i really got through to a lot of the kids with that one.

 

[Guest]

LOL, this is almost as bad as when I convinced a youngin that if you drink the bong water you get high, I was just joking but before I knew it the sucker was about to sip it lol.

 

[350Z]

I made a huge post about this back on Overgrow, I had head when using ICE in a box, as the hot smoke cools down by passing through the ice, it absorbs some of the moisture into the smoke, and smoke+water = VERY sticky tar, and if this is going into your lungs... then........ yeah.

In the end, I was told by multiple people they didn't find this factual, not sure if it's true or not, but majority of people didn't think it was plausible.

 

[D Rock]

Im smoking on my bong now as I read this thread. I usually get ripped off three or four bong tokes, but I usually cant stop hitting it at 4 tokes. More like 14 tokes muaaaaahhhhhh!

 

[Space Ghost]

the answer is simple! just drink the bong water too

 

[hurricane]

As far as i can figure, that article studied the ammount of thc compared to tar delivered, as oposed to the total ammount of thc delivered from a given sample. I also only see it saying thc might be more redily absorbed than tars in the water, which i'm willing to believe, as thc and tar are both water-insolumble. I see it completely possible from a given sample of marijuana the bong will deliver more thc and tar than the same ammount in a joint. Especially if you smoke snappers to not have any waste burnoff

We must always remember to look at not just the conclusions, but the actual things researched. BTW here is the labs summary on water pipes:

Nonetheless, it is still premature to judge that waterpipes are actually unhealthful, since they may filter out other, non-solid smoke toxins occurring in the gas phase of the smoke, which was not analyzed in the study. Noxious gases known to occur in marijuana smoke include hydrogen cyanide, which incapacitates the lung's defensive cilia; volatile phenols, which contribute to the harshness of the taste; aldehydes, which promote cancer; and carbon monoxide, a known risk factor in heart disease. Previous studies indicate that water filtration may be quite effective in absorbing some of these.



Hurricane