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Diary Maestro auto outdoor

bibi40

Well-known member
second cut yesterday :

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a handbud :

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marijuanamat

Crazy X Seeds Breeder
Veteran
Very nice grow.

I grow a few auto's outdoors most years (Mossys Jem) and the bud structure is exactly the same as yours, stacked and not as dense as a photo-plant.
Indoors they are a lot wider and denser with the same massive calyxes, but there is slight différance in the effects. Outdoors they seem to produce a better high and a slightly different flavour/aroma or terp profile. You planted them at the right time and in good-sized containers. I've experimented with pot size. Root bound plants in small pots always flower as soon as they become root bound, so you'll end up with a tiny plant with a 3 gram nugget. Personally, i do not see what the hype is with autos, especially indoors, as they need full power from start to finish. A photo plant you could veg for 3 weeks, then drastically reduce the power usage by going 12/12 and still have a superior product in the same time. That's just indoors, though. Outdoors, they are great if you have very long summer days far up north. They produce the fattest calyxes I've seen, as you can see everyone just about on outdoors. Resin production is always good to.
 

bibi40

Well-known member
Very nice grow.

I grow a few auto's outdoors most years (Mossys Jem) and the bud structure is exactly the same as yours, stacked and not as dense as a photo-plant.
Indoors they are a lot wider and denser with the same massive calyxes, but there is slight différance in the effects. Outdoors they seem to produce a better high and a slightly different flavour/aroma or terp profile. You planted them at the right time and in good-sized containers. I've experimented with pot size. Root bound plants in small pots always flower as soon as they become root bound, so you'll end up with a tiny plant with a 3 gram nugget. Personally, i do not see what the hype is with autos, especially indoors, as they need full power from start to finish. A photo plant you could veg for 3 weeks, then drastically reduce the power usage by going 12/12 and still have a superior product in the same time. That's just indoors, though. Outdoors, they are great if you have very long summer days far up north. They produce the fattest calyxes I've seen, as you can see everyone just about on outdoors. Resin production is always good to.
Thanks mate !

i can' t compare at now from the outdoor one before sampled it ,
but i did grow two times this strain indoor and so, i know it a bit ,
i' m just really sure the indoor grow one is just very more suitable for commercial value ,

check this thread of one of my indoor grow of her and i think you will understand some value for auto's in indoor ,


not so far of 2 gpw average , close of the 1K marker under 480w of led ,
and a quality wich is preffered than amnesia core cut here , if it could be a " photo clone " reference ,
to be honnest i had to said " that' s auto weed " , and friends says , wow , no , it had changed a lot since ...
long time , yes the beginning

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marijuanamat

Crazy X Seeds Breeder
Veteran
I only grow them outdoors myself now, but indoors they have the commercial bag appeal. Auto's have come a long way, but most of the big seed companies outsource their seed production now. Makes sense when your producing, 100000+ seeds. They all sell to multiple companies. I'm fine with it but they all lie about it, and you don't even know whether you're getting what you paid for. In the 90's and early 2000's you get the genetics you paid for but that doesn't seem to matter any more, the Dutch, especially greenhouse seeds, they are the worst offenders. They'll produce seeds somewhere in Spain then call it what ever the new thing is and sell it . All the cannabis cups they won were paid for and have you seen their strain hunters line up...lol not 1 plant from any trip has ended up in a hybrid. It's all about the £££$$$. Growers are happy just because the plant got them stoned. But they bullshit a lot about there genetics. When they first started in the 90's they had the breeders to back them up like Shanti and Nevill, after they left they took there P1's with them so they had to put out F2's and work from there. They might have had 1 or 2 original parent plants but noy many.

If i'm wrong about this i'm sure some of my fellow old skool ICmaggers will put me right.
 

bibi40

Well-known member
I only grow them outdoors myself now, but indoors they have the commercial bag appeal. Auto's have come a long way, but most of the big seed companies outsource their seed production now. Makes sense when your producing, 100000+ seeds. They all sell to multiple companies. I'm fine with it but they all lie about it, and you don't even know whether you're getting what you paid for. In the 90's and early 2000's you get the genetics you paid for but that doesn't seem to matter any more, the Dutch, especially greenhouse seeds, they are the worst offenders. They'll produce seeds somewhere in Spain then call it what ever the new thing is and sell it . All the cannabis cups they won were paid for and have you seen their strain hunters line up...lol not 1 plant from any trip has ended up in a hybrid. It's all about the £££$$$. Growers are happy just because the plant got them stoned. But they bullshit a lot about there genetics. When they first started in the 90's they had the breeders to back them up like Shanti and Nevill, after they left they took there P1's with them so they had to put out F2's and work from there. They might have had 1 or 2 original parent plants but noy many.

If i'm wrong about this i'm sure some of my fellow old skool ICmaggers will put me right.
I know all what you' re talking about man ,
how Arjan' s recept and drive all judges then won some CC ...
i know a lot about how the breeder' s motherplants was lost , and all lyings behinds seeds selling ,
nothing new , just an old thing which sadly continue in time ( and certainly become worst and worst , thanks to the hype effect ) ,

i' m don' t arguing about that , since i know that ' s the reality ,
but my point is , ( from my experience , so anyone take it like he feel it , just my personnal opinion ) ,

i grew a lot of various auto strains from different breeder-seller ( bullshit and topshit , lol ) ,
both indoor and outddor ,

from the beginning to now ,
the evolution is spectacular ,
now auto' s can contest in quality with photo ,
and from my side i consitantly get more yield in less time than photos , with the advantage of perpetual harvest with only one space , i grow photos too , and i love them all , and do my thing .

just for say it can have some advantage to indoor grow them .

Cheers .

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bibi40

Well-known member
last Maestro was harvested few days ago ,
resin was here for the meeting :

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underbuds :

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was an easy grow ,
a bit of mold for the lastest plants ( 2 weeks of rain at the end ) ,
but was marginal and acceptable ...

100€ of seeds , 50€ of soil , 50€ of chicken manure and a bit of water ...
i expect 1K of finish product and a good amount of H from manicure ,
and a lot of manicure ( :sick: )

was a great run ,
thank you UL !!!
 

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Bona Fortuna

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Wonderful grow!
This inspired me to grab a few packs of beans from UL to run outdoors. A 5 pack of Malawi terror, two 10 packs of Maestro and a pack of Mazarilla.

Did you end up leaving any of the plants untopped or were they all topped at some point?
 

bibi40

Well-known member
Wonderful grow!
This inspired me to grab a few packs of beans from UL to run outdoors. A 5 pack of Malawi terror, two 10 packs of Maestro and a pack of Mazarilla.

Did you end up leaving any of the plants untopped or were they all topped at some point?
lol ,
i did grew them all and can say you will not be disapointed ...

i did top them all , it' s my way to grow now ,
can't really argue wich is the best ,
but for me topping works well , so i go on !

waitin' to see yours soon !

:)
 
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