thanks ,,i agree cant beat seeing them under the sun ,,a real treat here in uk
The Haze Hybrid Thread
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Happy Times
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Looks amazing
GreenAndFast
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Temperatures are pretty mental in the UK at the moment. Wish I had somewhere secluded to flower some outdoors. Next year I may go up the mountain and just chuck a handful and see what happens haha @harvestreaper
What about Epsom salts being added to the water to get sulphur (and magnesium) in there?
I dont know ,I didnt test it in lab its just based on my senses.
Terps can be pungent but most pungent part of weed are sulfure compounds.
Terps gives you smell when you smell close to buds and they make cultivar different.While sulfur compounds are that pungent smells which many strains have comon.
Also I found some science resrch posted somwhere here. That scientist found lack of sulfure compounds in plants grown under leds.
And its my expirence also...
Bubblegum cut grown under led and HPS smell the same.
Difference only is that Led smell like well cured Hps grown.
And led grown never had that pungent glue/garlic compound which is very,very pungent smell at harvest and last some time.
And those pungent smells are made of sulfure compounds.
You have to grow the same cut in different setups and you will see what I am talking about.
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Tony Tokes
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Flylowgethigh I used epsom salt for that purpose & also for general plant health on my last grow. I use it more so as a treat I guess you can say but I use it separately than my feed because it shoots the EC through the roof. I haven’t seen any toxicity issues from it, so as long as it doesn’t seem to hurt the plants I can’t see it being harmful lol. Any more info on this would be great
"Any more info on this would be great."
Exactly this
That sulphure compounds I think are more volatile than terps much more.
They are most pungent at harvest cutting of plants and leafs causes them to start smell and at month of curing they are mostly gone.
Its also with garlic,or truffle they smell strong but when you cut them than those sulphure compounds srart to react with air and they smell like garlic terp + that crazy acid stench that burn nose and eyes those are sulphure compounds.
Also when you grind truffle it start smell gassy and way more pungent than not cutted.
I found on real gassy/chemy/sour/skunky cuts when harvested with hps have much more that kind of smells than plants grown with leds.
And after propper cure its hard to tell the difference which is hps or led grown.
Even Jack when its 100% dialed in under hps have bit of that skunky,chemy,paint funk but very low levels compared to bubblegum or sour strawberry og.
The volatile organic compounds (VOCs), responsible for the distinctive scent of truffles are a blend of alcohols, ketones, aldehydes, aromatic, and sulfur compounds, albeit only a small fraction of all the VOCs are responsible for what humans perceive as truffle aroma “aroma active compounds”.
Garlic (Allium sativum L.), an important economic vegetable, contains various sulphureous volatile organic compounds (VOCs), including sulfides, disulfides, and trisulfides, all of which are formed by the decomposition of allicin and are released upon crushing garlic.
Days before was runing chemd OG and Cheese OG in rotation under 1000w Gavitas pros in colder and cooler envirmovent. Still when I remember those harvests I cough and my eyes and nose bleed.
Then I find out while triming I was wearing graffiti mask culdnt handle that smell for hours. And didnt have those simptomes as before I did.
literally, my mucous membranes could be burned by the strength of those smells and exposure to it for hours.
Exactly this
That sulphure compounds I think are more volatile than terps much more.
They are most pungent at harvest cutting of plants and leafs causes them to start smell and at month of curing they are mostly gone.
Its also with garlic,or truffle they smell strong but when you cut them than those sulphure compounds srart to react with air and they smell like garlic terp + that crazy acid stench that burn nose and eyes those are sulphure compounds.
Also when you grind truffle it start smell gassy and way more pungent than not cutted.
I found on real gassy/chemy/sour/skunky cuts when harvested with hps have much more that kind of smells than plants grown with leds.
And after propper cure its hard to tell the difference which is hps or led grown.
Even Jack when its 100% dialed in under hps have bit of that skunky,chemy,paint funk but very low levels compared to bubblegum or sour strawberry og.
The volatile organic compounds (VOCs), responsible for the distinctive scent of truffles are a blend of alcohols, ketones, aldehydes, aromatic, and sulfur compounds, albeit only a small fraction of all the VOCs are responsible for what humans perceive as truffle aroma “aroma active compounds”.
Garlic (Allium sativum L.), an important economic vegetable, contains various sulphureous volatile organic compounds (VOCs), including sulfides, disulfides, and trisulfides, all of which are formed by the decomposition of allicin and are released upon crushing garlic.
Days before was runing chemd OG and Cheese OG in rotation under 1000w Gavitas pros in colder and cooler envirmovent. Still when I remember those harvests I cough and my eyes and nose bleed.
Then I find out while triming I was wearing graffiti mask culdnt handle that smell for hours. And didnt have those simptomes as before I did.
literally, my mucous membranes could be burned by the strength of those smells and exposure to it for hours.
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p420 under LED. This is another clone fro the seed plant above. This girl has been getting more RO. Im not sure how long she will stay green.. I'll try to keep her happy but not as green.. She is loving life right now.
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Tony Tokes
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That was exquisite. So do you think Epsom salt feeds can impact those volatile sulfur compounds? Even if it is only smelling more during the grow?"Any more info on this would be great."
Exactly this
That sulphure compounds I think are more volatile than terps much more.
They are most pungent at harvest cutting of plants and leafs causes them to start smell and at month of curing they are mostly gone.
Its also with garlic,or truffle they smell strong but when you cut them than those sulphure compounds srart to react with air and they smell like garlic terp + that crazy acid stench that burn nose and eyes those are sulphure compounds.
Also when you grind truffle it start smell gassy and way more pungent than not cutted.
I found on real gassy/chemy/sour/skunky cuts when harvested with hps have much more that kind of smells than plants grown with leds.
And after propper cure its hard to tell the difference which is hps or led grown.
Even Jack when its 100% dialed in under hps have bit of that skunky,chemy,paint funk but very low levels compared to bubblegum or sour strawberry og.
The volatile organic compounds (VOCs), responsible for the distinctive scent of truffles are a blend of alcohols, ketones, aldehydes, aromatic, and sulfur compounds, albeit only a small fraction of all the VOCs are responsible for what humans perceive as truffle aroma “aroma active compounds”.
Garlic (Allium sativum L.), an important economic vegetable, contains various sulphureous volatile organic compounds (VOCs), including sulfides, disulfides, and trisulfides, all of which are formed by the decomposition of allicin and are released upon crushing garlic.
Days before was runing chemd OG and Cheese OG in rotation under 1000w Gavitas pros in colder and cooler envirmovent. Still when I remember those harvests I cough and my eyes and nose bleed.
Then I find out while triming I was wearing graffiti mask culdnt handle that smell for hours. And didnt have those simptomes as before I did.
literally, my mucous membranes could be burned by the strength of those smells and exposure to it for hours.
Tony Tokes
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I just realized the chart was above in your post lol
Tony Tokes
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Is that chart how much it fed and when? Or how much the plant wants during those weeks?
Here is a haze hybrid growing that I call "Cindy Haze". The haze stretch is showing. They are from Peak BC C99 moms from LT, and OHZ dad from JohnnyChicago via Mr. Flower.
I dont know I dont think that its about food of plant.
Its maybe more caused by stress of radiant heat and radiation Hids emit on plants.
If plants get more streess which is in optimal zone the have stronger imunie systems and are healthier and stronger.
Led lights in another hand dont expose plants to heat and radiation stress.
And plants with less stress produce more fruits.
And every light produce bit different results but both are HQ.
Only differences are procent of VOC's compounds which in my expirience hid buds have much more of them than leds.
after VOC's compounds evaporate there is no difference at all or very small.
I growed Bubblegum and my friend under Lumatek in begining everybody say I better grow it.
It was extremly pungent smelled like glue alchocol garlic....those are vocs but terps were the same.
Mine was much more sticky. After 2 months cure they taste mostly the same.
We even mix in one jar buds of same size and it was hard task to find which is hps which is led grown.
Than I started resrch that topic about VOC's.
And nobody care about that...thats why people feel hids weed is better cuz of more VOC's compounds...eat some garlic or truffle you will see how they make you more sleepy and relaxed.
Led is kind always clearer than hids grown.
But those are all based on my resrch I did and still doing it...only fuck up is that I lost round of Jack clones so will be few months without it.
This summer will be White Widow and SourStrawberyOG(Strawbery Sour x OGk )
In month will start thread under LED boards.
Growed Bubblegum under leds myself and it wasnt pungent like hps grown. With same nutes in same hydro setup.
But it yilded more and was looking way better under leds.
SSSH Catpiss bx4 purple pheno harvested at around 10 weeks of flower:
The buds about 3 days into quick drying to be cobbed in a banana leaf. Interestingly, the fruity aroma it had during flower is fading quickly and developing into a musty sort of funk. Very sticky, and easy to trim. All I had to do was remove a few fan leafs, everything else is covered in trichromes!
The green pheno is still throwing new pistils, I think it needs another week or two.
The buds about 3 days into quick drying to be cobbed in a banana leaf. Interestingly, the fruity aroma it had during flower is fading quickly and developing into a musty sort of funk. Very sticky, and easy to trim. All I had to do was remove a few fan leafs, everything else is covered in trichromes!
The green pheno is still throwing new pistils, I think it needs another week or two.
Tony Tokes
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Thank you for all of that. Very well put.I dont know I dont think that its about food of plant.
Its maybe more caused by stress of radiant heat and radiation Hids emit on plants.
If plants get more streess which is in optimal zone the have stronger imunie systems and are healthier and stronger.
Led lights in another hand dont expose plants to heat and radiation stress.
And plants with less stress produce more fruits.
And every light produce bit different results but both are HQ.
Only differences are procent of VOC's compounds which in my expirience hid buds have much more of them than leds.
after VOC's compounds evaporate there is no difference at all or very small.
I growed Bubblegum and my friend under Lumatek in begining everybody say I better grow it.
It was extremly pungent smelled like glue alchocol garlic....those are vocs but terps were the same.
Mine was much more sticky. After 2 months cure they taste mostly the same.
We even mix in one jar buds of same size and it was hard task to find which is hps which is led grown.
Than I started resrch that topic about VOC's.
And nobody care about that...thats why people feel hids weed is better cuz of more VOC's compounds...eat some garlic or truffle you will see how they make you more sleepy and relaxed.
Led is kind always clearer than hids grown.
But those are all based on my resrch I did and still doing it...only fuck up is that I lost round of Jack clones so will be few months without it.
This summer will be White Widow and SourStrawberyOG(Strawbery Sour x OGk )
In month will start thread under LED boards.
Growed Bubblegum under leds myself and it wasnt pungent like hps grown. With same nutes in same hydro setup.
But it yilded more and was looking way better under leds.
P420 is not easy to take pics of. This is the current keeper until I find a better one. The clone run above will determine if shes run again. Nothing fruity, sweet, or floral aroma going on with her. She has a woody, earthy, spicy, metallic aroma..
Getting wet
