CMH vs LED vs HPS

[snakedope]

So where is the pics of your great HPS buds? That’s what I want to see.

Pics won't help bud, not for what we look for, trichome size and effect can only be measured in smoke, and I found that the hard way by debating with a lot of people over this, just to realize that without smoking it all what we say is just words

And no you don’t need to try them all, what I’m suggesting is maybe you didn’t do enough initial research and made a poor buying decision. You still didn’t mention any brands you tried? So no don’t buy them all. Do research and find people with good results with a specific light and then deicde to buy that one.

Lol, my panels were state of the art at the time, cost more then 1k, vegged like no other, they were shit in flower
And besides that, your claim of us not doing enough research is bogus, me and I'm sure a lot of people here smoke much weed everyday, you think that 90% of the people who grow just bought the wrong lights or something haha, the same people 2 years ago had fire weed all over, low quality was rare to find.

If you’re not willing to do that ok cool so it’s you are lazy. Not that LED is no good. And if you actually click the link it’s not just lab results and it’s a full grow journal all the way through and they actually talk about the actual smoking experience. Not just lab results. But as you just admitted you’re not willing to read a few pages to get a better understanding. You just think LED sucks and no matter if you have proof of truth you will just ignore it…

I'm done with other people side by side cuz like I told u, a plant looks has nothing to do with it's trifecta, also people discussion on smoking experience lol haha that's the whole point, a lot of people who smoke medicore weed and say it's good, big problem.
People grow amazing plants with fox tails all over and say it's amazing
People grow shit and say it's amazing
Sorry I just don't trust no one, not even science if it doesn't match reality, someone is lying, you decide.

See y’all can’t be going and buying a led light with 1000 ppf and then comparing to 2000 ppf and claim LED yields less and sucks. So you’re going in the same space. And giving the same amount of plants less light! And we all know if you do not provide plants enough light then they will produce lard and leafy buds. So I believe from what y’all are saying that’s what’s happening. You feel for a sales pitch and didn’t actually do your research on the par tests and ppf output. So you grew buds with some larf because most likely you didn’t provide the plants with enough light. Which we all know the same thing would happen with any light. It’s not the LED. It’s you not having the right knowledge to actually convert to LED in the first place. That’s what I get from what y’all are saying here.

Stop talking nonsense and throwing speculations, my panels were 720w each and 110k lm, and I had 2 of them in a 8x4
My hps setup now in the same space is 1200w, 180k lm max
The led is far more superior in output, and indeed it grew my plants like crazy, but the final product was shit !
So, you, like 99% of this market want dense tubmled, no glue, 25 min high, fox tailed buds
We don't !

When the day comes and you will actually read the math and science behind those light sources, instead of posting models of the same shit diodes just under a new name with a bigger price we can make a more elaborate debate about the benefits of each tech.

 

[Crooked8]

Snake at it again lol

 

[exoticrobotic]

He has a point.

 

[exoticrobotic]

I did a few side by side CMH vs LED grows.

The CMH bud was far superior quality wise, stickier resin but less weight. The led bud was not as good quality wise, sandy resin but higher yielding in weight.

LED bud for me lacks a depth of high and length of high. It seems the resin doesnt mature and go amber in the same way it does under HPS/CMH.

Weren't LEDs developed for growing lettuce on the moon?

 

[dimodz]

I did a few side by side CMH vs LED grows.

The CMH bud was far superior quality wise, stickier resin but less weight. The led bud was not as good quality wise, sandy resin but higher yielding in weight.

yeah that right that why i write LeD CmH LeD combo is best atm

 

[kro-magnon]

Sorry I just don't trust no one, not even science if it doesn't match reality, someone is lying, you decide.



When the day comes and you will actually read the math and science behind those light sources, instead of posting models of the same shit diodes just under a new name with a bigger price we can make a more elaborate debate about the benefits of each tech.

Choose a camp and stick to it, don't believe science or it proves you're right ?
So far your only argument is how YOU perceive buds grown under LED, that's a bit too much subjective to be convincing.
I have not yet smoked a lot of buds grown under LED but the ones I have were perfectly fine smoke. I'll be able to judge by myself in a few weeks what they can produce.
About 1/2 hour high it happens with HPS grown buds as well, a factor contributing to short lived high is tolerance.

 

[linde]

I think gooseboy is a spokesperson for Mars Hydro

 

[snakedope]

Choose a camp and stick to it, don't believe science or it proves you're right ?

I believe reality, science afterwards

If science defy what we perceive as reality then most of the times the same science lies

Not the first time to happen and def not the last, science is mostly money based and as so it is corrupt, but in the sea of lies some turds tend to float, you can seek them for yourself

So far your only argument is how YOU perceive buds grown under LED, that's a bit too much subjective to be convincing.

Me, linde, cfl king, the list goes on, that's just members of this community, I have much more people and reviews by the bucket who suffer from this phenomenoa

I have not yet smoked a lot of buds grown under LED but the ones I have were perfectly fine smoke.

Then why are you even talking about something u don't have experience about ?
Fine smoke, we heard it all before and still hear it till this day, but nothing new under the sun

I'll be able to judge by myself in a few weeks what they can produce.
About 1/2 hour high it happens with HPS grown buds as well,

Never happens to me from outdoor or HIDs bud, and I do talk about selected clones which killed it for over 10 years of smoking the same strain getting fucked up every single time
Now, the same grower with same clone who used to deliver fire from 2006 till 2018 experience a 90% decrease in quality, I'm waiting for you informative opinion why is that
If you ask him (he's a big medical op) he will say LEDs are the best thing that ever happend ! To his pockets

a factor contributing to short lived high is tolerance.

Sorry but that's false...
Smoking over 10 years the same strain never had any complaint not in the trifecta department anywho lol

 

[kro-magnon]

I'm curious to know if you think the earth is flat ?

 

[Gooseman23]

Pics won't help bud, not for what we look for, trichome size and effect can only be measured in smoke, and I found that the hard way by debating with a lot of people over this, just to realize that without smoking it all what we say is just words

Lol, my panels were state of the art at the time, cost more then 1k, vegged like no other, they were shit in flower
And besides that, your claim of us not doing enough research is bogus, me and I'm sure a lot of people here smoke much weed everyday, you think that 90% of the people who grow just bought the wrong lights or something haha, the same people 2 years ago had fire weed all over, low quality was rare to find.


I'm done with other people side by side cuz like I told u, a plant looks has nothing to do with it's trifecta, also people discussion on smoking experience lol haha that's the whole point, a lot of people who smoke medicore weed and say it's good, big problem.
People grow amazing plants with fox tails all over and say it's amazing
People grow shit and say it's amazing
Sorry I just don't trust no one, not even science if it doesn't match reality, someone is lying, you decide.

Stop talking nonsense and throwing speculations, my panels were 720w each and 110k lm, and I had 2 of them in a 8x4
My hps setup now in the same space is 1200w, 180k lm max
The led is far more superior in output, and indeed it grew my plants like crazy, but the final product was shit !
So, you, like 99% of this market want dense tubmled, no glue, 25 min high, fox tailed buds
We don't !

When the day comes and you will actually read the math and science behind those light sources, instead of posting models of the same shit diodes just under a new name with a bigger price we can make a more elaborate debate about the benefits of each tech.

I hope people can clearly say you contradicting yourself… I post pics of bud that looks good under LED. You say pictures don’t matter. Then you turn around and say all LED bud foxtail all over the place? Well unless you don’t know what the word fox tail means then pics actually do matter. Fox tailing is a physical thing plants do that you can see from pictures? Or is that a lie to? So if pictures don’t matter why are you basing your opinions off visuals? And again you claim state of the art LED at the time… but still you fail to mention the brand. And that’s the common theme with you and the other guy here. Y’all say LED is bad but yet you didn’t mention the bran for model you used? As I said share it so I can go look at the specs and show you exactly why it didn’t yield what you thought it would… if you’re actually here to help people then why wouldn’t share what brand gave you a bad experience? Share the brand and model and let’s see if they are actually state of the art… that’s if you actually even own these 720w LED you claim. You probably have some fake 720w hps equivalent that actually only draws 300 w or something like that? And if I’m lying then please share the actual light you had? If you can’t again it just shows the lies you want to tell to push your agenda.

 

[Gooseman23]

I think gooseboy is a spokesperson for Mars Hydro

So I just posted links to lights that are high quality and would replace your light, and none of them were mars hydro but yet I’m a salesman for mars hydro? That’s doesn’t even make sense. Wouldn’t it be safe to assume that a salesman for a company would post a link to the company they are trying to sale for? Think before you speak buddy.

 

[Gooseman23]

I think gooseboy is a spokesperson for Mars Hydro

And again you were quick to share the HPS light you use. The solis tek 1000w hps, but you failed to mention the LED light you used? Almost as if you’re afraid to share it? Could it be because I’m right about the output? Hmmm… share the light or otherwise you’re just talking nonsense

 

[linde]

So I just posted links to lights that are high quality and would replace your light, and none of them were mars hydro but yet I’m a salesman for mars hydro? That’s doesn’t even make sense. Wouldn’t it be safe to assume that a salesman for a company would post a link to the company they are trying to sale for? Think before you speak buddy.

Why would I want to replace my lights in the first place? You haven't proven anything to me. It was only a joke anyway. Don't take life so seriously. Run your LEDs and be happy....I'll run my HiD.

 

[Gooseman23]

I'm curious to know if you think the earth is flat ?

This dude is just talking. He says picture don’t matter, science don’t matter! I even posted a real side by side with results. And they even talked about the actual perception of the smoke and it’s effects! That’s don’t matter either. He is essentially saying nothing matters other than his opinion he claims he has state of the art LED but it probably would have been easier to type the name of the light than state of the art. This guy doesn’t own LED. He is just talking.

 

[Gooseman23]

Why would I want to replace my lights in the first place? You haven't proven anything to me. It was only a joke anyway. Don't take life so seriously. Run your LEDs and be happy....I'll run my HiD.

so clearly everybody can see you’re afraid to share the LED light you used because either you’re lying and didn’t use it or I was right about the out put and you don’t want everybody to see that I was right… so you’re afraid to share it. As I said you were quick to share you use a 1kw solis tek but afraid to share what 600w LED you used? Just go hide unless you will come back and share the truth to actually give a real opinion based off real results. You don’t want to help people. You just want to go against LED

 

[Gooseman23]

For me if I say LED sucks I would have no problem saying I bought kingbrite 300 w LED and they gave subpar results. That’s super easy to say. But you guys are just like LED sucks and I used the best ones ever invented but it’s a super secret what light I actually used and I’ll never share it with the public

 

[linde]

For me if I say LED sucks I would have no problem saying I bought kingbrite 300 w LED and they gave subpar results. That’s super easy to say. But you guys are just like LED sucks and I used the best ones ever invented but it’s a super secret what light I actually used and I’ll never share it with the public

Dude lay off the dope and go see a doctor.

 

[Gooseman23]

Dude lay off the dope and go see a doctor.

well I guess that good LED bud have me like that buddy… that is your response to me asking what light you used you’re so afraid and it’s clear to see why

 

[linde]

well I guess that good LED bud have me like that buddy… that is your response to me asking what light you used you’re so afraid and it’s clear to see why

Sproutboxx. There now go take your meds and drink some cold water.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

All LED, no foxtails