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top of the heap to third world status in one generation
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Care to share what it was I said or did, which resulted in your thinking it was
appropriate to reveal content exchanged in confidence through private message.
I am fairly sure that is contrary to the terms of service, and absolutely certain your
having done so demonstrates that your values are those of an informant, and rat.
dramamine
Well-known member
I think the press knew full well that he was being sarcastic, but just because they misrepresent doesn't mean we citizens can't be in on the joke.
Putin ally Yevgeny Prigozhin admits interfering in US elections
Russian businessman and founder of Wagner Group, says interference will continue as midterms loomwww.theguardian.com
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Russia's Prigozhin admits interfering in U.S. elections
Russian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin said on Monday he had interfered in U.S. elections and would continue doing so in future, the first such admission from a figure implicated by Washington in efforts to influence American politics.www.reuters.com
Brother Nature
Well-known member
What makes you comment then? Feeling spurned, bitter, inferior or is that boomer ego starting to take over old man? Must be hard to be the sole voice of reason on this site. Your shoulders must be tired.
You had me censored the last time. Here once again you’re pushing what you believe to be an education far above your vocabulary.
An informant? Don’t send me bullshit in confidence. It’s only bullshit. A rat? Like when you bitched to the mods? That’s funny.
Back to the cut and paste knowledge. ..
No. Not at all. This is a cut a paste sticky. Your reason for commenting?
en·trap·ment
/inˈtrapmənt,enˈtrapmənt/
noun
/inˈtrapmənt,enˈtrapmənt/
noun
- the state of being caught in or as in a trap.
"the feeling of entrapment grows as the roads close and the power goes out"- the action of tricking someone into committing a crime in order to secure their prosecution.
"his style of investigation constitutes entrapment"
- the action of tricking someone into committing a crime in order to secure their prosecution.
I can certainly understand one might reach such a conclusion. It is my understanding he has a background of having already interfered with an election. He ran the troll farm which produced Hillary Clinton emails in 2016. Between that and his being a person with enough power to be able to speak as he pleases, I am inclined to consider that may be sharing a truth as a form of taunt.
I may of course be mistaken.
You were canned this last time over your attitude, which is what I was told when I inquired..
Not a soul has ever forced you to come to this thread nor to post in it.
As I am in a pretty good mood this morning, I will give you a response to the question as to how
the thread became a sticky : We live in a political world, and someone thought it had value.
I will leave you with a truth which I do not expect you will be able to absorb :
You were entrapped by your own gullibility, and I had not a thing in the world to do with it.
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You are confused again, or else you are simply lying.
Had I an ability to censor you, why would I needed to have spoken with a mod ?
I never sent you anything unsolicited. Never, not once. Not ever got it !
Had anyone done so, why would you not simply forward it to the management ?
As for your pretense that you are able to discern truth or lack of, it is pure delusion.
You were had sir, but not by me.
I would have thought that you would have figured out what happened by now,
but as you have not, I suppose you never will.
As you seem to treasure simplicity :
You're a gullible lying rat with crap for ethics.
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dis·en·gage
/ˌdisənˈɡāj/
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verb
verb: disengage; 3rd person present: disengages; past tense: disengaged; past participle: disengaged; gerund or present participle: disengaging
disentangle
extricate
separate
release
loosen
loose
disconnect
unfasten
unclasp
unclick
uncouple
decouple
undo
unhook
unloose
unhitch
untie
unyoke
disentwine
free
set free
liberate
disjoin
disunite
disarticulate
Opposite:
attach
pull out of
move out of
quit
retreat from
/ˌdisənˈɡāj/
Learn to pronounce
verb
verb: disengage; 3rd person present: disengages; past tense: disengaged; past participle: disengaged; gerund or present participle: disengaging
- 1.
separate or release (someone or something) from something to which they are attached or connected.
"I disengaged his hand from mine"
Similar:
remove
disentangle
extricate
separate
release
loosen
loose
disconnect
unfasten
unclasp
unclick
uncouple
decouple
undo
unhook
unloose
unhitch
untie
unyoke
disentwine
free
set free
liberate
disjoin
disunite
disarticulate
Opposite:
attach
- connect
- become released.
"the clutch will not disengage"
- become released.
- 2.
remove (troops) from an area of conflict.
"the ceasefire gave the commanders a chance to disengage their forces"
Similar:
withdraw
pull out of
move out of
quit
retreat from
The FBI's Transformation, from National Police to Domestic Spy Agency. Part One: "Disruption"
A Florida FBI agent blows the whistle on a Bureau that's stopped worrying about making cases, shifting resources to a vast new mission: domestic spying without predicate. Part one of a series
taibbi.substack.com
I renew and repeat my previous statement, gullible idiot or a liar.
You were played like a fiddle.
You were banned over your attitude sir, which was months ago.
Your claim is patently absurd.
Why would you have waited all this time prior to saying a thing ?
Had any one one done that to me, I would have raised absolute hell
the day I returned, and never ceased.
I attempted to explain what took place in as many different ways as possible,
short of pinning labels on participants, which is not going to happen.
Frankly I think your inability to understand what took place last time
is feigned, and you actually desire to be banned yet again, as you
are certainly well on the way.
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5 Elite Families Who Made Their Fortunes in the Opium Trade
Phillip SmithThere's a lot of money in the dope business, and there always has been. Prohibit something people want--sometimes very desperately--and someone will find a way to get it to them anyway--at a price. That's a lesson in futility, as some American politicians seem to be finally figuring out with our current drug prohibition, and as China's emperors found out when they attempted to ban the importation of opium into the Middle Kingdom in the early 19th Century.
Backed by their own governments, Western traders ignored Chinese concerns and demands, flooding the country with opium. When necessary, they enlisted their governments to back them up with military force, humiliating and humbling the empire, and getting rich in the process. Most of these traders were British, but a significant number were American, and the profits they made were the cornerstone of some of 19th Century America's greatest fortunes.
Right now, other merchants are making fortunes in the same business. If they get caught, they lose everything. But if they don't, there's nothing like time and money to wash the dirt off their fortunes.
Here are five prominent American families that got rich in the Chinese opium trade:
1 .The Astor Family. America's first multimillionaire, John Jacobs Astor, joined the opium smuggling trade in 1816 when his American Fur Company bought 10 tons of Turkish opium and smuggled it into Canton. Seeking other sources of profit while faced with woes in the fur trade, he became the first American known to have entered the contraband Chinese opium trade and made a nice profit before abruptly exiting the business three years later.
2. The Forbes Family. John Murray Forbes and Robert Bennet Forbes worked for Perkins & Co. in its China trade. While the former's main job was to secure quality tea for export, that latter was more intimately involved in the importing size of the business and had more of a direct role in the opium trade. Their father, Ralph Forbes, had married into the Perkins family. It was the brothers' activities in the 1830s and 1840s that led to the Forbes family's accumulated wealth. The most notable family member on the contemporary scene is US Secretary of State John Forbes Kerry. The Forbes legacy in the China opium trade lived on in the Museum of the American China Trade in Milton, Massachusetts, which was housed in Robert Bennet Forbes' 1883 Greek Revival-style home. That museum merged with the Peabody Essex Museum in 1984, leaving what is now known as the Captain Forbes House Museum.
3. The Russell Family. Samuel Wadsworth Russell started as an orphaned apprentice to a maritime trade merchant, made his initial investment capital on trading commissions while working for other traders, and eventually founded Russell and Co., the most powerful American merchant house in China for most of the second half of the 19th Century. He landed in Canton in 1819 and quickly amassed a fortune in the opium trade. His mansion, now known as the Samuel Wadsworth Russell House, still stands in Middletown, Connecticut. Russell's cousin and fellow opium trader, William Huntington Russell, was a co-founder and funder of Yale University's Skull and Bones Society.
4. The Delano Family. Warren Delano, Jr., the grandfather of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, was chief of operations for Russell & Co., another Boston trading firm which did big business in the China opium trade in Canton. He first went to China at age 24 and spent a decade dealing dope on the Pearl River before returning to New York as a newly wealthy and very eligible bachelor. He admitted in letters home that opium had an "unhappy effect" on its users, but argued that its sale was "fair, honorable, and legitimate," akin to importing wine and spirits to America. Delano lost his fortune in the Great Panic of 1857, but returned to China and rebuilt it in part by supplying the US military with opium to treat Union soldiers in the Civil War. The Delanos don't like to talk about the opium connection much. As FDR biographer Geoffrey C. Ward noted, "In a family fond of retelling and embellishing even the mildest sort of ancestral adventures no stories seem to have been handed down concerning Warren Delano’s genuinely adventurous career in the opium business."
5. The Perkins Family. Thomas Handasyd Perkins, a wealthy merchant and Boston Brahmin par excellance, made his bones as a young man trading slaves in Haiti, then peddled furs to China from the American Northwest before amassing a huge fortune smuggling Turkish opium into China. Although he got rich off the trade, he avoided mentioning it, and his official biography, written by his son-in-law, never mentions the word "opium." Perkins assuaged himself through philanthropy, supporting the Boston Atheneum and the New England Institute for the Blind, which was renamed for him. The town of Belmont, Massachusetts, is named after the estate of nephew, John Perkins Cushing, who was active in the trade himself.
5 Elite Families Who Made Their Fortunes in the Opium Trade
There's dirty money buried in the basement of some of America's wealthiest and most powerful families.
www.alternet.org
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