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Thinking ancestral throw back their to Johnny
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Thinking ancestral throw back their to Johnny
yea looks kinda cool , but i reckon shes a toss out ,
wouldnt want to proliferate that in the gene pool to be honest ,
personally i would never let anything like that breed ...
Looks like barbed wire
JohnnyChicago
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OT1xOH ibl
Goodherb
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I'm not Donald but I just culled a Peruvian x Original Haze with a similar phenotype. Indoors that plant was just waste of space. After months of flowering all it has is just these scattered strings of "buds". I say "buds" because you can't call them that. Low yield to no yield phenotype I call it.
Outdoors in a rainy climate it might be bomb proof but most of the time I prefer actual buds. I did save her seeds though because I'm a seed whore.
Not commenting on anyone else's plant here (They might be fire?) but this is my reasoning in my situation. For smokes I might keep something like that around if it's not in the way but for breeding purposes I have no reason to believe I couldn't find a phenotype with similar potency but a with a better bud structure. Just my two euro cents.
Goodherb
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Thule, we welcome your comments.
I want presume that wally will have similar sentiments.
I fully understand. But I being, strictly an outdoor grower , I will grow a field of that particular phenotypes and similar, patiently !
Obviously it’s not practical it will take you an hour to pull the calyx out just to get one joint , but it’s still an interesting example of a plant ,
TheDarkStorm
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Usually they turn out quite potent donald.....ive been trying to look more into these sort of types for about 15-20 years.....im not sure if its being caused by something or a genetic anomaly....but it like they seem to be the next evolutionary stage into breeding plants just for thc....wen every thing keeps falling to the background bar the main goal of producing thc....an they do come out very potent. So yield, scent, structure, looks, everything seems to be thrown out bar producing thc.......I have also seen this happen from too much inbreeding....I think the haze crew stopped growing the haze because theres all turned out like this in the end... but very interesting plants ....they usually produce excellent smoke.
TheDarkStorm
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You can just clasp your fingers together an run them down the stem.....they all drop off quite easy....
Skunkman himself says so, the haze brothers ditched haze for skunk, higher yield, shorter flowering time (and probably preferred the hybrid skunk high), commercially that pheno is a doom, but for personal use it's quite subjective, one can also waste time collecting enough chalices to make a spliff ...
I tried writing exactly that but didn't find the words to say it in proper english.
Alpenglow
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I found one of these types in a KC Brains Mango F2 i made years ago, which is (Thai x Brazil) x Afghan.
Was just a test grow to check the new lamp modifications i made at that time. Had nothing to replace so i grew her out.
Nothing special in taste or effect. Best thing to do with this pearl phenos: Upside down into the ice water and make hash.
Really not worth the space, time and work to me
TheDarkStorm
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Yeah I believe he did also say the last grow they did they all came out stringy an wouldnt produce no more.
itl be hard for me to find sams quotes...the other haze thread seems to have been cut down.....but this is from what big herb was told by one of the haze crew
"After about a 10 year run, the haze failed to produce. The buds were too thin and wispy for commercial production"
Those string of pearl plants are definitely for hash making or concentrates…Along the lines of some of these comments you can tell once you start growing a pure haze is why they wanted to hybridize is it in the first place … .ha ha… It’s still worth growing pure Haze just to get that pure high … the one and only …Clean energetic long lasting and euphoric
Probably the remnants of prehistoric phenotypes, when mostly planted for ropes, somehow I increasingly believe that Haze and NL gave the best result because it is the perfect combination of 2 heavy IBL's .. One of the tropical plants made ibl, one of the Afghan plants ... which were selected for the characteristics of several generations and then crossed with each other.
It’s hard for all of us to imagine an approach until cannabis was demonized. Everything then was hemp. There were regions where strong hemp was maintained with some religious rituals like in Indo-China and Middle east mostly also as SE-Asia and many more .... After western man began to do experiments in search of the strongest possible thc ... and the whole culture, we ourselves began to divide one genus of plants into some characteristics that are not clear even to scientists themselves.
In reality what I know by reading and talking to many people is that before this...In nature cannabinoids were all over the place...mostly there was 1:2 thc-cbd and 2:1 thc-cbd....
further scientific work, we managed to get to 0% thc and 16% cbd. And 22% thc and 0% cbd..
it is interesting how with the help of tissue culture technology we managed to get the cbg variety, in the future we will be able to breed such strains as we want, with the advancement of technologies such as CRISPR and similar, we will be able to put terpenes and cannabinoids as desired for medical apliccations.
I would like to ask about some superstition, and maybe it is true, I plant lots of plants, but I have never paid attention, but allegedly since it switched to flowering 12/12 or 11/13..if the conditions and climate are good, that after how many days the first hairs appear , bloom will last for so many weeks .... in the future I will pay attention to this... do you have any experience with it or do you may have heard that information somewhere ?
It’s hard for all of us to imagine an approach until cannabis was demonized. Everything then was hemp. There were regions where strong hemp was maintained with some religious rituals like in Indo-China and Middle east mostly also as SE-Asia and many more .... After western man began to do experiments in search of the strongest possible thc ... and the whole culture, we ourselves began to divide one genus of plants into some characteristics that are not clear even to scientists themselves.
In reality what I know by reading and talking to many people is that before this...In nature cannabinoids were all over the place...mostly there was 1:2 thc-cbd and 2:1 thc-cbd....
further scientific work, we managed to get to 0% thc and 16% cbd. And 22% thc and 0% cbd..
it is interesting how with the help of tissue culture technology we managed to get the cbg variety, in the future we will be able to breed such strains as we want, with the advancement of technologies such as CRISPR and similar, we will be able to put terpenes and cannabinoids as desired for medical apliccations.
I would like to ask about some superstition, and maybe it is true, I plant lots of plants, but I have never paid attention, but allegedly since it switched to flowering 12/12 or 11/13..if the conditions and climate are good, that after how many days the first hairs appear , bloom will last for so many weeks .... in the future I will pay attention to this... do you have any experience with it or do you may have heard that information somewhere ?
JohnnyChicago
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Seedsman OH Pearl pheno (I called it "thai", with Haze-C like terpenes), outcrossed to LMI.
Pearl pheno that I have not used in my pure lines...
Pearl pheno that I have not used in my pure lines...
That looks a lot like Grinspoon. If your gonna grow a plant for 4+ months and only get 1oz it better be killer.
Montuno
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Montuno
...como el Son...
Star crash wants to do another skinny Leaf contest the winner gets a 50 seed pack of Original Haze genetics....It can be any strain of any marijuana the skinny leaf gets the prizeHas to be personally grown by the contestants
King Congo (Congo Point Noire x South Africano Ciskei Highlands; CPN "feno"; Tropical Seeds Company).
Panta que rozó los 3 metros:
Panta that touched 3 meters:
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