The Haze discussion thread

[Chi13]

Landraces aint all that great. Now sum vaccum sealed pounds of cookies or purple haze from 2021.now thats good weed.all this yesteryear stuff is boring. Thc percent is the 70s was less than 11 percent.nowadays its in the 30s.i feel sorry for yall growing up on that stuff.were spoiled nowadays

Didn't you post a pic of genuine Cambodian bud? What do you think that was if not a landrace?
How old do you think Purple Haze is? Were you even born when Purple Haze was first around? 38 years old. Didn't think so.
Thai Sticks became extinct about the time you were born, so again, you are talking about stuff you have zero experience.

In the 70s there was a lot of great pot, and a lot of garbage too. Even leaf got sold, so THC percentages are somewhat skewed. Even so, high THC doesn't necessarily equate to a good high.

And if anyone can direct me to an ignore function it would be appreciated.

 

[@hempy]

Here is the one one i wanted to post Sams haze plant growing in i think 81 in his back yard.

 

[romanoweed]

Landraces aint all that great. Now sum vaccum sealed pounds of cookies or purple haze from 2021.now thats good weed.all this yesteryear stuff is boring. Thc percent is the 70s was less than 11 percent.nowadays its in the 30s.i feel sorry for yall growing up on that stuff.were spoiled nowadays

nope not growing up on it. we had the usual suspects and rarely i got the chance to smoke real oldschool landrace. Its my Choice. Well i hunt it, its not around the 70s stuff.

 

[@hempy]

I think Vanilla Ice is just trying to get a rise from many in here in chat his a lot different

 

[yesum]

Ice Ice Baby!! I notice the Thai and Haze pics look pretty close. Narrow and delicate leaves.

If I can change the tune here a bit, what are your thoughts of Indian, Indonesian, Burmese etc. pot back in the 70's. You Australian guys seemed to have had all of that. I missed all of it. I recently grew some Chellakutti Kerala, southern Indian pot, and got some of the best/ if not the best, trippy effects from any pot I have grown. It repeated over several sessions so I assume it will continue. RSC Kerala was ho hum btw. One plant though.

You all seem to be stuck on Thai Stick as the standout so I guess I already know the answer.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Lets be honest mate lots were growing Thai sativas in Laos and Cambodia i am sure but the Thai we were growing smoking as i am sure you were was the same in the 70s in stick form to that in the compressed form.

Even when we were scoring sticks we had Thais growing.

I honestly dont know if we ever smoked Laos or Cambodian but i was told Cambodians tended to be more of a squat sat to that of the Thai sativas.

The genetics we were growing came from seed found in Thai sticks or seed given to us by older growers who had found seed or they had collected it them selfs.

yes your right its all similar ,
just the thai people took a little more time with how they did things ,
and their presentation was better ,
perhaps even down to being fussier with the seed stock they used ,
and making sure a separate person was making seeds , separate to the growers of it ,
The growers would have to purchase seed just like folks do regularly now to ensure quality etc ...

having said that , some of the laos stuff has fatter leaf and buds to the thai ,
and the seed we have seen was larger too ,
but as someone mentioned before , cannabis knows no borders and is exchanged across them ,
\
my point was simply wanting to be correct on the original source of stuff ,
and my thoughts are the brick weed/compressed cannabis was sourced in laos ...

 

[Bnyest]

Have you got a picture of the plant vinilla dutch or information were it came from....landraces from Cambodia dont usually grow like that.

Don’t feed the troll lol he’s probably trying to get to 2000 posts by end of the month

 

[romanoweed]

yesum . what are we supposed to do then. Its problematic if you find 1000s of different Collections of Landrace. If i was to hunt everything, i probably wouldnt reach a goal.

Im pretty shure if someone is fixed on SE Asians, to reach that lifechanging Weedexperience, he cant be wrong. There are IN MY OPPINION 1000s of halflived Thais, and there has never been a killer Thai been circulating on Icmag, never. Like multiple people posting it.. Its simply not around.

Where is the stuff even. shure probably your indian is better than the few thai . SE Asian, Mexican, Congolese. thats the stuff that dreams are made of. Im not shure if you got the best impression trough Snohighs stuff. He has more or less good Stuff. But.. If you have a killer line , thats all that matters. And IMHO, not many of those are around.

So, the southern Indian was better even than the Bigsur, the Panama?

I think you just copare to noneistend Lines that once eisted, but now they dont. A killer Thai or such will probably battle your Indian. Just cause you found A KILLER - Line.

I am focussed on Vietnamese cause multiple reasons and research seemed to show that my Life-changing unknown Bud may been Vietnamese. I only do it fullon, and caused by your idea that Meican might be the strongest, i looked slightly left and right.. but its too much work.

So , i think all good.

 

[Donald Mallard]

I wish some one would brick you up and move you along

yea I'm in the process of that ,
apologies to all for having to put up with the loud mouth fool ...

 

[Raho]

^^ You notice they have a 6 plant limit. Copy cali much? The whole thing started here. I hate cali btw but credit is due. I will skip the deep-fried crickets but take the Thai Stick please. Would the Thai Stick pictured do justice to what ThaiBliss loved so much? The guy is old enough to have saved good seeds.

Hi Yesum.
I assume you are from Cali? Sounds like you are very proud of your state. One of the most beautiful places in the world.
Copying CA prop 64 is not a good thing at all and nothing to be proud of. Just another power grab for politicians and big money corporations at the expense of small growers that kept the plant alive and improved it during decades of prohibition.

They would have done much better to copy Prop 215 (CA's med law) which allowed the subculture to flourish with small farmers living and growing on the land, raising families from the fruits of their cannabis labor. and patients across the state to enjoy the richest variety of high quality flowers to ever exist in one place in the world.

Prop 64 has brought lawyers and mega-corps, locked out/re-criminalized mom and pop cultivators, and homogenized the weed to the lowest common category of hype driven aesthetics and mass produced extracts.

Being "allowed" to grow 6 plants as long as you have special permission from the tyrant in charge is nobody's definition of freedom.
Revolutions were fought to free a people from controlling despots who exert their control over every aspect of the people's lives like that.
Right now the Sherrif of Nottingham fills the coffers of the elite in Cali while Mom and Pop are forced to leave the land they love because they can't be a player in the industry they created without a million dollar+ startup capital. The rules have been setup explicitly to lock them out and hand their legacy over to the same people who demonized and stigmatized cannabis users for decades.
So, please don't point to CA and proudly praise the industry that has settled like ashes from the destruction of a much better model they had before Prop64.

Conformity and homogenization of culture around the world is NOT a good thing.
America should be ashamed of the crime of prohibition that they have inflicted on the world, not proud of the bullshit, statist half steps toward ending it that our tyrants collectively propagate around the world.

I fear that we'll know the tyrants' work is complete when our children no longer recognize the difference between liberty and slavery.
Free people need no permission to grow a plant on their land.

 

[@hempy]

yes your right its all similar ,
just the thai people took a little more time with how they did things ,
and their presentation was better ,
perhaps even down to being fussier with the seed stock they used ,
and making sure a separate person was making seeds , separate to the growers of it ,
The growers would have to purchase seed just like folks do regularly now to ensure quality etc ...

having said that , some of the laos stuff has fatter leaf and buds to the thai ,
and the seed we have seen was larger too ,
but as someone mentioned before , cannabis knows no borders and is exchanged across them ,
\
my point was simply wanting to be correct on the original source of stuff ,
and my thoughts are the brick weed/compressed cannabis was sourced in laos ...

I think there is no doubt that what most people score in Thailand these days is grown in Laos or Cambodia i don't know what the laws like in Laos but from what i am told in Cambodia cannabis is sold at the local markets and even added to pizzas there for tourists.

The pictures of the brick weed in Thailand today looks nothing like what i remember seeing but i never saw any more after 85 here mate.

I only saw a little of the compressed bricked Thai and that tasted smoked just like the Thai stick that had come in.

All the Thai lines we grew here were all true breeding i never saw them hermaphrodite in flower the Thai people have a long history with cannabis as do others but there cannabis was unique stood out in quality appearance and smells.Even in the 70s Thai sativas were highly prized amongst growers more so than any other.

 

[vanilla dutch]

Thai aint extinct neither is purple haze.smoked both .and in the year 2000 until today.have a good day.

 

[Bnyest]

Ice Ice Baby!! I notice the Thai and Haze pics look pretty close. Narrow and delicate leaves.

If I can change the tune here a bit, what are your thoughts of Indian, Indonesian, Burmese etc. pot back in the 70's. You Australian guys seemed to have had all of that. I missed all of it. I recently grew some Chellakutti Kerala, southern Indian pot, and got some of the best/ if not the best, trippy effects from any pot I have grown. It repeated over several sessions so I assume it will continue. RSC Kerala was ho hum btw. One plant though.

You all seem to be stuck on Thai Stick as the standout so I guess I already know the answer.

Chellakutti Kerala from ACE?

 

[yesum]

yesum . what are we supposed to do then. Its problematic if you find 1000s of different Collections of Landrace. If i was to hunt everything, i probably wouldnt reach a goal.

Im pretty shure if someone is fixed on SE Asians, to reach that lifechanging Weedexperience, he cant be wrong. There are IN MY OPPINION 1000s of halflived Thais, and there has never been a killer Thai been circulating on Icmag, never. Like multiple people posting it.. Its simply not around.

Where is the stuff even. shure probably your indian is better than the few thai . SE Asian, Mexican, Congolese. thats the stuff that dreams are made of. Im not shure if you got the best impression trough Snohighs stuff. He has more or less good Stuff. But.. If you have a killer line , thats all that matters. And IMHO, not many of those are around.

So, the southern Indian was better even than the Bigsur, the Panama?

I think you just copare to noneistend Lines that once eisted, but now they dont. A killer Thai or such will probably battle your Indian. Just cause you found A KILLER - Line.

I am focussed on Vietnamese cause multiple reasons and research seemed to show that my Life-changing unknown Bud may been Vietnamese. I only do it fullon, and caused by your idea that Meican might be the strongest, i looked slightly left and right.. but its too much work.

So , i think all good.

Yeah, the Chellakutti would be at the top of the list so far in trippy effect. I think so. I had lots of good trips from Colombian, Panama, Jamaican/Haze, Haitian, Guerrero, even C99. Those were all tolerance dependent and tended to change for the worse over time. The Chellakutti has held up better than them so far. The Thai x Cambodian I grew from Snow was not even trippy. I think I grew two different Thai lines from him.

On California being crappy/crappy on pot even now, well no argument here. I am comparing what I had and what I have now, no comparison. Not being a commercial grower I am glad with what I have here. Though it should be treated like tomatoes, it never will I fear. US was responsible for a lot of cannabis repression over the world but Mexico, Egypt, quite a few other countries were already cracking down on it in 1800's early 1900's. Not a fan of California now or Newsom. I have never liked the Governors here or politics in general. This is a lovely third world dumping ground now and getting worse by the minute.

Come on Aussies, tell me of the Indian, Indonesian or other lines that compared well to the mighty Thai. If there were any that compared? It seems the Thai's got their original seeds from India, along with many other countries.

 

[bsgospel]

Danggit- the only site with Kerala Chellakutti left is Ace. No US deliveries these days. None at Attitude/Hiper/Mandala etc. I shouldn't have waited/waited to do my homework on them.

 

[Hammerhead]

A dry spell means there is no commercial out there for people to buy hammer i saw some offer ounces that sold for $250 before the dry for a $1000 here in the last big dry.

like i said we had them here to the smart ones got extra and stocked up for the dry spells or put away some of the last harvest while others exploited the dry to rip people off.

People buy a bag of commercial get real nice and high from the first few smokes by half way threw an oz have all ready built a tolerance to some things.Were others smoke the same weed for years and build no tolerance to the smoke i think it has more to do with the quality .

lol, that's what it means to you but not everyone else. A dry spell means you have no smoke dude. Has nothing to do with commercial. There's a huge difference in the supply of the '70-'90s from what we have today. When we ran out we couldn't go buy a bag. I'm sure there was some weed around during dry spells but not everyone had connections that had weed all the time. Today there is no such thing as a dry spell in legal states.

 

[Stocktont]

That was taken in the 70s there the plants they used for the Thai sticks and the compressed brick.

That picture was posted a very long time ago by another person in another thread and that person also said he didn’t take the picture so you don’t even know where it is from or who took it. It’s also pretty dishonest to post it like that without giving credit to the person you ripped it off from but it’s pretty much par for your fantasy course, what was that called again? Oh ”Walking stick thai” hahaha. So how can you tell such definite stories about a picture you ripped from a guy who ripped it from a guy? Yes that is true, as usual you don’t know what you’re talking about but reason and logic never stopped you before so please yell some about how old I am and how many plants I have grown, it will sure deflect from the obvious fact that you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, hahaha. You see even if I was 12 years old and never grew a plant, nothing you say look good on your resume dude, it’s quite obvious to a lot of people myself included.

Go take a trip, see for yourself, explore and collect and then you can tell your stories of far off lands but don’t be this obtuse, stupid online troll trying to make stuff up to make yourself and whatever you think you have more exiting and ”original”. It’s not working!

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Donald a question please....do you find in Thailand the spicy leather types is still easily found...or does it seem to be more dominated by these more lemony, citrusy types that seem to be more commonly associated with thai now in the western world....id be intrested in your view point on this please...seeing as over time you've been able to check out quite a few things yourself...thanks

 

[romanoweed]

yesum. Its like i told , IN MY OPPINION there are no good Thais circulating on the Forums or by Vendors. The best that i can call circulating, , cause two thre people reported it is Gypsys Thai. Funny as i am i rate it. IMHO its on the edge of good. Just on the edge. So, nothing for me, but so damn close.

The Snowhighs Spanish Thai x Gypsys Cambodain Cross. Well, they bouth dont reach the Good-measurement. Otherwise i would probably bought it.

So, it kind of sounds as you just never got a good SE Asian. The Sumatran you had looked new. and so forth. So you dont surprise me.

Probably you refere also to a smalltalk we had. Said you liked the one Kellachutti,and i said i would rather bought the Aces Kellachuti.. Does it matter even . It was smalltalk, and sometimes i dont know if i should be honest, or sweettalk abit. i dont feel they would give me , what i understand as good, bouth of em IMHO.

It sounds like you never had a killer SE Asian. A proper one.

The Vietblack (Viet Chinese) fingersmokereported, alltho it doesent reach a Good rating really, the good selection reminded me so much of the unknown Bud i once had. It had this magic, this tropical feel, just muddied by the Chinese. It gave me confidence the unknown ultimate weed i once smoked was infact Vietnamese. If you dont give SE Asians a try, thinking its not as good as. Then im out of words. I can tell you a link of Gypsys Thai, or a 70s Thai. beleve what you like, i beleve what i do beleve. we will see.

Im super offtopic, i just was in selfdefence. so, by

IMHO

 

[Donald Mallard]

Yeah, the Chellakutti would be at the top of the list so far in trippy effect. I think so. I had lots of good trips from Colombian, Panama, Jamaican/Haze, Haitian, Guerrero, even C99. Those were all tolerance dependent and tended to change for the worse over time. The Chellakutti has held up better than them so far. The Thai x Cambodian I grew from Snow was not even trippy. I think I grew two different Thai lines from him.

On California being crappy/crappy on pot even now, well no argument here. I am comparing what I had and what I have now, no comparison. Not being a commercial grower I am glad with what I have here. Though it should be treated like tomatoes, it never will I fear. US was responsible for a lot of cannabis repression over the world but Mexico, Egypt, quite a few other countries were already cracking down on it in 1800's early 1900's. Not a fan of California now or Newsom. I have never liked the Governors here or politics in general. This is a lovely third world dumping ground now and getting worse by the minute.

Come on Aussies, tell me of the Indian, Indonesian or other lines that compared well to the mighty Thai. If there were any that compared? It seems the Thai's got their original seeds from India, along with many other countries.

I've never toked any indian pot that came from India ,
but friends used to travel there every year with money they made from selling pot ,
they used to bring back seeds and grow it here in the tropics where we live ,

it was quite good pot ,, a brown color just l like some thai stuff,
had a nice kinda musty flavor ,
and smoked the traditional method with a chillum it was amazing ,
i remember being so high i had to sit on the floor because i felt like i would fall off my chair ..
i cant really compare it to thai as i didn't have them both at the same time,
but i suspect the thai was a bit stronger and more trippy ...