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Vaccine passports

BudToaster

Well-known member
Veteran
it is called ADE, for "antibody dependent enhancement". requires a reinfection which triggers an out of control immune response because the vaccine did not confer true immunity.

this has been seen with other vaccines - can't remember which - just google for "antibody dependent enhancement"
 

gaiusmarius

me
Veteran
once you accept that your personal health records are no longer private and have to be provided when asked for, you will never get that privacy back and they will keep adding more things that you need the vac pass for. as Gry said, this is the patriot act on steroids. this pass will lead to a totalitarian system like in China. anyone who thinks this thing will make life better is deluded. you are talking about the most authoritarian surveillance schemes in the wet dreams of the cia,stassi, KGB etc all put together.

first it will be oh you only need it to travel, then slowly it will be needed to walk out your own door. just like the patriot act it ill never be taken back. our children will curse us for ever if we let them get away with this shit.

crisis here nor there, this thing is the tip of the spear of totalitarian nightmare surveillance state that you can never switch off. your every move day by day will be captured and stored, every shop you enter, every friend you visit, every concert, party, every meet up.

what if it gets hacked eh? what if the state decides oh we don't like Julian Assange very much, lets just say he's permanently positive. this thing has horrific potential for abuse built right in. hackers and criminals as well as governments will be in charge of your life. once you accept it, they will add payments, they will add internet id, all for your convenience of course.

better everyone takes that fucking experimental vaccine then this tip toe into AI dictatorship.
 

mowood3479

Active member
Veteran
I agree with Gaiusmarius.
vaccine passports are a big mistake.
“those who would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither”
 

imiubu

Well-known member
Agree calling it a vaccine is wrong. Its advance medication. I don't think anyone under 45 should take it till they hit 45. Giving it to kids is just out of order. But the only places you need the vaccine passport is customs to travel, pubs and sports grounds. I can do without all of them, but will take the AZ vac if offered. Not the RNA one and I don't like the idea of the insect protein one. Who knows if they are allergic to insect innards ? Not something that comes up for most.

Years ago a friend nearly died after drinking a red dyed popular product. She then learned she had
acquired an allergy to Cochineal among some other strange items. This drink was something she enjoyed
somewhat regularly for years prior to the near death experience.


But... it's "natural"! Similar to those glands around the Beavers' ass tasting like raspberries? ugg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal
 

BudToaster

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Veteran
heard on NPR that unvaccinated people are the cause of covid variants. of course this is wrong. it is china.
 

mowood3479

Active member
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Those dorks at npr can come say that to my face.
(sorry trying to quit smoking herb for a bit.. not at my usual chill level.)
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
The stasi doesn't want youn trying to get around the jab.

FBI-COVID-Announcement.jpg
 

armedoldhippy

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heard on NPR that unvaccinated people are the cause of covid variants. of course this is wrong. it is china.

why not a "disease du jour" ? release a new version every week or so, right? nope, sorry. not buying it. Mother Nature more than willing to stir the pot & come up with new variations. simplest solution etc...
 

Doctor M

Active member
By using the Vaccine label they are protected from liability, because they know from animal studies mRNA shots = autoimmune disease 6 months - 3 years from now.

Any chance of a citation or source for the above mentioned studies ?





https://web.archive.org/web/20200221...x.com/pipeline






20% of the people where my wife works who recieved the covid shot have died after getting it. One guys family was so stunned because the guy was great shape with no underlieing health conditions. They requested an autopsy to determine the cause of death. BTW the 20% who died were all black, which explains why the party of the KKK is so interested in making sure "under served communities of color" get the covid shot.

I've mentioned before I live in the state with the highest covid death rate per 100k. I don't know anyone who cause of death was listed as covid, but a few months in and I know and handful of people who died after recieving the covid shot.


1. When did you start trusting big Pharma?
2. Have you looked in to Fauci's track record?
3. Do you know the CDC is moreless a vaccine propaganda outlet that owns patents for several vaccines?
4. Johnson & Johnson knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder and yet people and governments still trust J&J and their Covid Vaccine. Why?


​​​​​​https://www.bitchute.com/video/hfzL5gUeQvxr/

​​​​​​https://www.bitchute.com/video/96T7RGEP98dI/


​​​​​​It is extremely rare for teens and early 20's to have heart attacks. Yet here are 4 recent examples from VAERS:

19 year old, 2 days after vaccination https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/1077643

21 year old, 4 days after vaccination https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/1074003

22 year old, 30 mins after vaccination https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/1046636

21 year old, 1 day after vaccination https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/994376
 
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Doctor M

Active member
So, if the vaccine doesn’t protect you from Covid and doesn’t prevent you from spreading it, and you still have to wear a mask, please explain what is the benefit?

I’ll wait.
 

Gry

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Veteran
Two clips from Snowden...
https://youtu.be/kVOv3Kt_WaY

https://youtu.be/PV4Ghs4tb3o


... al you ever need to know!

The closest I ever found to "all you ever need to know,
was the Library of Congress itself.
There were offices in the basement which were used
by the OSS during the second world war.
One of the more interesting things I have noticed
recently is the vastly different treatment being accorded
to "whistleblowers" .
Am inclined to think not every one is what they claim to be.
 

Doctor M

Active member
The closest I ever found to "all you ever need to know,
was the Library of Congress itself.
There were offices in the basement which were used
by the OSS during the second world war.
One of the more interesting things I have noticed
recently is the vastly different treatment being accorded
to "whistleblowers" .
Am inclined to think not every one is what they claim to be.

Here's something to chew on Gry and I'll save the trouble of asking for a source.

Funny how people want a source unless they hear it from the WMD's in Iraq mainstream media or Dr. Fraudci.


​​​​​​The requisite Phase III clinical testing, which kicked off on 29 April 2020, is still ongoing. The estimated completion date for primary outcomes is 30 July 2021, while monitoring of secondary outcomes is set to continue until 27 January 2023. Under normal circumstances, satisfactory completion of Phase III clinical trials is a prerequisite for gaining drug approval.

https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728



I have to laugh at all the growers who were always largely anti Big Pharma suddenly believing in Big Pharma....and willing to be a lab rat for Big Pharma.


​​​​​​Researchers from Yale School of Medicine found nearly a third of drugs approved by the FDA from 2001 through 2010 had major safety issues years after the medications were made widely available. Seventy-one of the 222 drugs approved during the decade were withdrawn, required a "black box" warning on side effects or warranted a safety announcement about new risks. It took a median of 4.2 years after the drugs were approved for these safety concerns to come to light, the study found.

​​​​​​https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-drugs-had-safety-problems-after-fda-approval
 

Gry

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Veteran
https://web.archive.org/web/20200221...x.com/pipeline






20% of the people where my wife works who recieved the covid shot have died after getting it. One guys family was so stunned because the guy was great shape with no underlieing health conditions. They requested an autopsy to determine the cause of death. BTW the 20% who died were all black, which explains why the party of the KKK is so interested in making sure "under served communities of color" get the covid shot.

I've mentioned before I live in the state with the highest covid death rate per 100k. I don't know anyone who cause of death was listed as covid, but a few months in and I know and handful of people who died after recieving the covid shot.


1. When did you start trusting big Pharma?
2. Have you looked in to Fauci's track record?
3. Do you know the CDC is moreless a vaccine propaganda outlet that owns patents for several vaccines?
4. Johnson & Johnson knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder and yet people and governments still trust J&J and their Covid Vaccine. Why?


​​​​​​https://www.bitchute.com/video/hfzL5gUeQvxr/

​​​​​​https://www.bitchute.com/video/96T7RGEP98dI/


​​​​​​It is extremely rare for teens and early 20's to have heart attacks. Yet here are 4 recent examples from VAERS:

19 year old, 2 days after vaccination https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/1077643

21 year old, 4 days after vaccination https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/1074003

22 year old, 30 mins after vaccination https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/1046636

21 year old, 1 day after vaccination https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/994376

Always good to hear from you. Thank you most kindly for the requested information, I shall look forward to spending
time with it.
Very sorry to hear that 20 % of those who had a vax passed away, that must surely be a statical record on an epic scale.
Given the nature of our media, I would have expected that a great deal of hay would be made from it, as was the case with
with the astrazeneca vaccine.


1. When did you start trusting big Pharma?
I trust big pharma to extract profit at the expense of all that is decent.
At what point did you ever expect them to do otherwise?
2. Have I looked into Fauci's background - Get real, these guys outsource house cleaning and record scrubbing to law firms that specialise
in just that sort of thing.
3. Do you know the CDC is moreless a vaccine propaganda outlet that owns patents for several vaccines?
I would describe that as gross understatement.
4. Johnson & Johnson knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder and yet people and governments still trust J&J and their Covid Vaccine. Why? Easy enough to blame the victim, which is the standard practice, the intent and effect being to leave the morality of the corporation unquestioned. Never ever worked for me, and I find those who run under such an approach to be a stone in the shoe.
 

Gry

Well-known member
Veteran
So, if the vaccine doesn’t protect you from Covid and doesn’t prevent you from spreading it, and you still have to wear a mask, please explain what is the benefit?

I’ll wait.
Am blessed with several respiratory preconditions that when combined, result in the odds of my surviving the virus being considerably diminished.
The benefit it provided, is that it completely changes the odds of my surviving.
 

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