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    #31
    Originally posted by TANITO View Post
    Thats actually really funny!!! I love these stop motion films about toy men rolling and smoking dope!

    Have you seen this pretty old one of some lego technical men teaching people how to roll?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Green Wolf View Post
      I'm not questioning what you're saying, but to me smoking pot before a battle seems like a really shitty idea.
      Pot makes my body heavy and makes me want to sit down and take it easy.
      If i had smoked pot before a battle i would have said, "forget this!", laid down under a tree and gotten faschinated by clouds while giggeling or something.

      If i would have mixed a modern day battle cocktail it would probably be either straight amphetamine or a mix of it and a benzodiazepine
      Try taking some Amanita mushrooms then, or dont they're a bit nuts, they would make you smash right through your enemy's or think your flying like Rudolf.. Berserkas were so named because they took Amanitas to make them such psycho killers, where we get the word berserk from..

      Santa Claus is representative of Siberian Shamen, just in the wrong colour, and your presents under the tree are just like amanitas waiting for you at the base of a tree where you would find them in nature
      "There is no god higher than truth"

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        #33
        Originally posted by Green Wolf View Post
        I'm not questioning what you're saying, but to me smoking pot before a battle seems like a really shitty idea.
        Pot makes my body heavy and makes me want to sit down and take it easy.
        If i had smoked pot before a battle i would have said, "forget this!", laid down under a tree and gotten faschinated by clouds while giggeling or something.

        If i would have mixed a modern day battle cocktail it would probably be either straight amphetamine or a mix of it and a benzodiazepine
        yeah, heavy couch lock Hash might not be so helpful, until after the battle and the shrooms are wearing off.

        But you need to try some old school african herb.

        its like doing coke.

        The Zulus , who were known as fierce fighters, were also well known for getting super high before battles

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          #35
          Originally posted by Lost in a SOG View Post
          Try taking some Amanita mushrooms then, or dont they're a bit nuts, they would make you smash right through your enemy's or think your flying like Rudolf.. Berserkas were so named because they took Amanitas to make them such psycho killers, where we get the word berserk from..

          Santa Claus is representative of Siberian Shamen, just in the wrong colour, and your presents under the tree are just like amanitas waiting for you at the base of a tree where you would find them in nature
          Berserk means, without shirt, refering to that they didnt wear armor in battle. Also the thing about Amanitas is a bit exhagerated. Some berserkers would simply change their state of mind naturally by doing rituals. Sort of like football fans today.
          But probably some used mushrooms and maybe mead too.
          Ive never tried amanitas so i have no idea what effects they have. Still though, has to be better than weed.

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            #36
            Originally posted by Water- View Post
            yeah, heavy couch lock Hash might not be so helpful, until after the battle and the shrooms are wearing off.

            But you need to try some old school african herb.

            its like doing coke.

            The Zulus , who were known as fierce fighters, were also well known for getting super high before battles
            Do you know which compund is responsible for this effect in african cannabis? I seem to remember something from the strainhunters about thc-a or v being plentiful in congolese weed

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              #37
              Well its all a mish mash of semi truth.. Various tribes doing different things.. They traded far and wide though so some of the Norse tribes had access to various bits and bobs..

              The Eddas wouldn't necessarily have mentioned them though because the Eddas were about the planets in their pantheon and not really humans and Amanitas were used more by the priesthood however they have been used in Northern Europe since the start of human habitation there, how much the Berserkers utilised them for warfare probably is over exaggerated but still Meade wine concoctions were widely traded, some of them containing Amanitas. They do grow prolifically in Northern European forests/woods and they make you feel unstoppable.
              Last edited by Lost in a SOG; 08-05-2018, 13:18.
              "There is no god higher than truth"

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                #38
                soldiers did not eat the amanita mushrooms before battles :P

                no contemporary sources mention this use or anything similar in their description of berserkers.


                Vikings have been alleged to have eaten amanita mushrooms in order to reach the so-called berserk in combat. However, the claim is questioned partly because of the fact that the effects of the amanita are central nervous system depressant.



                shamans might used those to go on trip.. to predict future not soldiers



                i dont know how true is that reindeer munched the mushrooms and they drinked the piss .. sounds far fetched but ..

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                  #39
                  I'm not totally surprised, I never thought that much of it went on because I would personally not risk my odds on toadstools over sober if fighting and, as i understand it, Vikings raided a lot rather than being professional armies. It can give you sudden insane strength though.

                  My understanding is drinking the urine renders it easier to handle as a trip and less toxic and harsh on the liver however I would just consume less personally.

                  Ive eaten allsorts, id give reindeer piss a go
                  "There is no god higher than truth"

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                    #40
                    Originally posted by Lost in a SOG View Post
                    I'm not totally surprised, I never thought that much of it went on because I would personally not risk my odds on toadstools over sober if fighting and, as i understand it, Vikings raided a lot rather than being professional armies. It can give you sudden insane strength though.

                    My understanding is drinking the urine renders it easier to handle as a trip and less toxic and harsh on the liver however I would just consume less personally.

                    Ive eaten allsorts, id give reindeer piss a go
                    This thread got alot more interesting than i had expected

                    The thing about drinking the urine of someone who has eaten toadstools is like this according to some: the body can only use so much of the intoxicant from toadstools so by drinking the piss you get more people high.

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                      #41
                      Hmm interesting concept. The books ive read they say the body does extract certain harsh chemicals that are detoxified by the liver and that the majority of the muscaric acid is excreted through the urine because as you say it gets excreted as fast as possible.

                      Its a bit confusing that people would ever drink the urine just to make it go further because you can dry them and they last for ages and you can extract them fairly easily.
                      "There is no god higher than truth"

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                        #42
                        Originally posted by Lost in a SOG View Post
                        Hmm interesting concept. The books ive read they say the body does extract certain harsh chemicals that are detoxified by the liver and that the majority of the muscaric acid is excreted through the urine because as you say it gets excreted as fast as possible.

                        Its a bit confusing that people would ever drink the urine just to make it go further because you can dry them and they last for ages and you can extract them fairly easily.
                        It might have a detoxcifying effect too. But in siberia where toadstools are/were valued very high they wanted to streach the supply as far as possible. So instead of each guy eating as much as he thinks is needed they just drink the pee of their buddy. That seems to have more to do with it being economical but maybe they knew aboutit being safer as well.

                        Ive also heard by word of mouth that some buddist priests do the same thing

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                          #43
                          Most of the northern european peoples had an oral tradition of preserving knowledge and drugs are consumable and leave no evidence so I wouldn't expect any proof to be preserved through time if the peoples of Scandinavia did smoke cannabis or throw it on hot rocks in tents/saunas or something which was not an uncommon concept back then.

                          As someone said the artisans and metallurigists of that part of the world were ridiculously skilled at one time and used gems like garnets from India and Asia, for example, that had travelled through the silk road or other routes to them so Hash/flowers could have travelled the same way with spices and various other herbs.

                          And some of them made it all the way to the East coast of America so I can imagine they went almost everywhere around at least the coast of europe/mediterranian and africa and further even, who knows, they're descendants seem to love weed anyway
                          "There is no god higher than truth"

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                            #44
                            Probably they also knew to find Liberty Caps and how to use it.

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                            Whether your checkin out bud porn or regular porn from 1975, you wont catch anyone trimming thier bush
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                            I see it as a kind of wonder drug of our time - Dr.Lester Grinspoon
                            In 1895, ‘Arabs . . . Armenians
                            [and] Turks’ grew Cannabis indica in central California to supply hash
                            to compatriots in San Francisco, and to smoke ‘kiff’ themselves.
                            Additionally, the u.s. army planted
                            marijuana in Panama in the 1920s for testing its effects on soldiers
                            The Dutch paid the Khoisan in 1713 with drugs rather than
                            food, goods or cash.
                            For the purposes of this research, Roger Adams had obtained red oil extract of the plant legally from the United States Department of the Treasury

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                              #45
                              Originally posted by Water- View Post
                              There may not be evidence that they were trading or using it but they certainly were in contact with cultures that used it.
                              I'd be highly surprised if there was never a viking age Scandinavian that did not try it at some point.



                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_trade_route

                              The Volga trade route was established by the Varangians (Vikings) who settled in Northwestern Russia in the early 9th century. About 10 km (6 mi) south of the Volkhov River entry into Lake Ladoga, they established a settlement called Ladoga (Old Norse: Aldeigjuborg).[1] Archaeological evidence suggests Rus trading activities along the Volga trade route as early as the end of the 8th century. The earliest and the richest finds of Arabic coins in Europe were discovered on the territory of present-day Russia, particularly along the Volga, at Timerevo in the district of Yaroslavl. A hoard of coins found at Petergof, near Saint Petersburg, contains twenty coins with graffiti in Arabic, Turkic (probably Khazar) runic, Greek, and Old Norse runic, the latter accounting for more than half of the total. These coins include Sassanid, Arab, and Arabo-Sassanid dirhams, the latest of them dated to 804-805.[2] Having examined major finds of Arabic coins in Eastern Europe, Valentin Yanin conclusively demonstrated that the earliest monetary system of early Russia was based on the early type of dirham minted in Africa.[3]

                              Hello.
                              I think is very difficult to believe that the greatest finds of Medieval Arabian coins in Europe were discovered in Russia... More that in Spain or Portugal, by example?

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