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    Opium doesn't taste bad, nor is it extremely potent. You could fool most people into thinking they smoked a new indica strain called Laundry Dishes.. Until they spotted the red crystals in their bowl.

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      Originally posted by xerb View Post
      I have smoked opiated Thai stick - it came through Los Angeles about 1990 - I do not know the source. It was terribly strong, completely over the top.

      A friend brought it up with him to share with me.

      He was a movie production/special effects guy working in Hollywood.

      After several pints of beer and a few shots of tequila we went out to sample his treasure.

      He warned me that it was pretty strong, so I took only one hit, then went back into the bar and sat down.

      Within a few minutes I was seeing double !!

      I remember how novel that was, sitting there in the bar keeping up my end of the conversation, but literally seeing double.

      You can probably guess what comes next.

      Well, with all that beer and tequila you now what comes next!

      I had to pee. The challenge was going to be getting up out of my seat, negotiating a very busy bar all the way to the back, then relieving myself, and then back - all while seeing double !! Done. Whew!

      I have also smoked opium and several versions of opiated hash.

      In most of these cases the opium drowned out the cannabis effects, and created a very real danger of overdose.

      There were exceptions though, if it was very mildly dosed the high blended well with the high of the hash. A body warming high that I have never gotten from cannabis alone.

      JUST DON'T SMOKE TOO MUCH.

      And NO it was not PCP. I've been there - what a horrible trip.
      That time I saw eight television sets, not one, and I did NOT handle myself nearly as gracefully.

      But that is another story... Xerb
      Thai stick in 1990? 1981 was the last thai stick I ever saw. As for "opiated" Thai stick, that was always the mytyh going around in the late 70's but it don't add up. Opium does not just light with direct flame, as for dipping it in some liquified opium, it still would not light. Opium is gooey and it would make no sense for farmers to spend money and time trying to put opium on the weed. An opium high is a basically half sleep, half awake nodding off, while Thai is electric up high. It's like night and day. I am an ex addict and have smoked opium and done a lot of heroin and can tell you many opiate people don't really smoke weed, and your average pot smoker would probably puke their guts out the first time they smoked opium.

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        When making morphine u get the other alkaloids as freebase. Those can be smoked in theory but a lot speaks against it. To solve them u would need some organic solvents that will dev wash away any resin and terps of the plant what will give u some terrible tasting organic mass. Most of the remaining stuff will be codeine what is dangerouse to smoke. U get the same histamin reaction when shooting. Worst case u get water in your lungs.

        Think this is a myth, best explaination is first time dank smoke imo.

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          Originally posted by vinrusso View Post
          I am an ex addict and have smoked opium and done a lot of heroin and can tell you many opiate people don't really smoke weed, and your average pot smoker would probably puke their guts out the first time they smoked opium.
          What would you say about the taste then mate, I would say it's strong and not pleasant although it may become so for habitual users?


          Peace

          S.S

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            Guys, during the early 1990s we had big tin cans full of Thai stick washing ashore all up and down the California Coast!

            During the eighties we started seeing bigger "Buddha Stick", I was never impressed with the quality.

            By the early eighties most the Thai weed we saw in Northern California was not as sticks, but in pounds and kilos.

            The buds were fatter, I'd wager they were already being hybridized, probably coming from Mexico?

            There were just so many pot smokers by then that they got gobbled up and we seldom saw them.

            The first ounce of Thai sticks I bought was in 1973. 28 sticks to the ounce.
            I paid $150. The going price for Thai sticks was $15 each back then.

            I could smoke half a small joint and be very high for 8 hours.

            Fare thee well, Xerb

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              Have you ever heard of lead dosed weed?

              There is a grower out there that has been dosing his grow with tetra-ethyl lead, thinking it will make his plants more potent...

              You can read all about it on one of the cannabis site here on the web.

              99.99 percent of the weed I smoke is organic and grown by me!

              I know friends that have introduced incredibly long lasting toxins to their grow site without ever thinking about it or realizing it!

              Beware there is a danger using anything from the petroleum industry for growing anything that will end up in your lungs.

              Just because it is safe for food doesn't mean it is safe for something you inhale.

              Sorry for preaching, Xerb

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                Street Drug Analysis - Have you KOME today?

                Does anybody remember "Street Drug Analysis" on 98.5 KOME Radio?

                Everyday at noon they would give you the results of their laboratory analysis of the samples people had sent in.

                You had to send in a sample, tell them what you thought it was, price, location where scored, and any other info you wanted to provide, $5 to cover the analysis, and a 10 digit number.

                About a week later you could call or listen in on the radio and they would give you the results.

                It was shocking to hear about all the shit stoners would do to come up with a marketable product.

                Many of the mushrooms of the day were store bought mushrooms sprayed with LSD.

                They never came across a sample of LSD with strychnine or speed, everybody used to complain "oh, it's too speedy". Well, as it turns out that is just the initial phase of the trip.

                Hard drugs were cut with all sorts of crap - surprising because mannitol, the preferred cutting agent was available at any head shop cheap.

                It was not uncommon to hear of pot and all sorts of white powders dosed with PCP.

                If that was so commonly done, is it a stretch to think that some unscrupulous characters might use opiates to increase the effect of the shit they were trying to sell?

                Sadly, I lost friends to these shady characters.

                Remember, this was the era of sniffing glue and paint, and smoking lethal doses of PCP - most was destroyed by the heat, so few died, they just lost their minds.

                Everybody should read the history of sniffing glue, people should know why this happened - a real pandemic - brought about by a totally irresponsible media.

                But that is a different story....

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                  Originally posted by vinrusso View Post
                  Thai stick in 1990? 1981 was the last thai stick I ever saw. As for "opiated" Thai stick, that was always the mytyh going around in the late 70's but it don't add up. Opium does not just light with direct flame, as for dipping it in some liquified opium, it still would not light. Opium is gooey and it would make no sense for farmers to spend money and time trying to put opium on the weed. An opium high is a basically half sleep, half awake nodding off, while Thai is electric up high. It's like night and day. I am an ex addict and have smoked opium and done a lot of heroin and can tell you many opiate people don't really smoke weed, and your average pot smoker would probably puke their guts out the first time they smoked opium.
                  Originally posted by xerb View Post
                  Does anybody remember "Street Drug Analysis" on 98.5 KOME Radio?

                  Everyday at noon they would give you the results of their laboratory analysis of the samples people had sent in.

                  You had to send in a sample, tell them what you thought it was, price, location where scored, and any other info you wanted to provide, $5 to cover the analysis, and a 10 digit number.

                  About a week later you could call or listen in on the radio and they would give you the results.

                  It was shocking to hear about all the shit stoners would do to come up with a marketable product.

                  Many of the mushrooms of the day were store bought mushrooms sprayed with LSD.

                  They never came across a sample of LSD with strychnine or speed, everybody used to complain "oh, it's too speedy". Well, as it turns out that is just the initial phase of the trip.

                  Hard drugs were cut with all sorts of crap - surprising because mannitol, the preferred cutting agent was available at any head shop cheap.

                  It was not uncommon to hear of pot and all sorts of white powders dosed with PCP.

                  If that was so commonly done, is it a stretch to think that some unscrupulous characters might use opiates to increase the effect of the shit they were trying to sell?

                  Sadly, I lost friends to these shady characters.

                  Remember, this was the era of sniffing glue and paint, and smoking lethal doses of PCP - most was destroyed by the heat, so few died, they just lost their minds.

                  Everybody should read the history of sniffing glue, people should know why this happened - a real pandemic - brought about by a totally irresponsible media.

                  But that is a different story....
                  There's just so much misinformation about drugs, this is perpetuated by immaculate ,conservative and biased scare tactics...completely counterproductive when it comes to harm reduction and real education...strychnine and amphetamine in acid is a fine example of this!

                  The crack scene IMO exploded because of BS media story's this also fuled the prohibition of coca as a plant!

                  Peace

                  S.s

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                    I doubt pot was getting laced with PCP. Too expensive to sell. LSD suffered from being impure I think rather than speed in it.

                    I had a friend who smoked a joint with some people he had just met while hitchhiking. Turns out the joint was laced with PCP and he ended up passing out in a ditch. I have no faith that anyone would sell you laced pot as the reward would be too little.

                    My boss used to sniff paint back in 80's or so. My coworker just last year overdosed on fentanyl laced heroin which he smoked. Fentanyl is cost effective for the seller so it does get added to heroin.

                    For opiated Thai stick, well possibly here or there, but cost effective? Probably not. This was a strain that was so far above most else at that time, that conclusions were drawn that were not right.

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                      In the late 90s my cousin stole a bud from her dad stash (my uncle) she have it to me for I think my 15th or 16th birthday. The bud looked almost like it had been fermented. It was dark like it had been pretty wet then dried enough to smoke. Any how, I was with another cousin one night who lived on his own. I pulled it out for a sesh. I packed a bong and took a hit. I couldn't even get through 1/4 of bong rip. It tasted like burnt plastic. Fucking horrible it was. But little did I know what I was about to encounter. I entered into a very pleasant dream like state that lasted almost 24 hours. Pure bliss. The time also passed very quickly. It was 8pm one minute and next minute 4am. I slept, woke up and still buzzed all day. I will never forget it. My cousin had the same experience and between us we couldn't finish one bong. I kept the bud and a week later shared it with some other friends. The same thing happened to all of us. About 8 of us, high as fuck for 24 hours. I have no idea what it was laced with as to this day I have never experienced that type of buzz from any drug and I've had my share of most of what's on the market

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                        Originally posted by CannaRed View Post
                        I'm outta rep but I actually lol'd on that.
                        Me too, then I got a chubby

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                          Originally posted by xerb View Post
                          Guys, during the early 1990s we had big tin cans full of Thai stick washing ashore all up and down the California Coast!

                          During the eighties we started seeing bigger "Buddha Stick", I was never impressed with the quality.

                          By the early eighties most the Thai weed we saw in Northern California was not as sticks, but in pounds and kilos.

                          The buds were fatter, I'd wager they were already being hybridized, probably coming from Mexico?

                          There were just so many pot smokers by then that they got gobbled up and we seldom saw them.

                          The first ounce of Thai sticks I bought was in 1973. 28 sticks to the ounce.
                          I paid $150. The going price for Thai sticks was $15 each back then.

                          I could smoke half a small joint and be very high for 8 hours.

                          Fare thee well, Xerb
                          thai stick in the 90s ,, hmmm sounds a bit unlikely since production was stopped a long while before that ,
                          the last bit of thai we saw in australia was 85 ,

                          i think that was even a bit of a stretch ,
                          it wasnt thai stick either , it was that golden , not on the stick stuff...

                          the other stuff we got after that was just compressed pot assumed to be from Laos , likely smuggled through thailand and then shipped out as Laos is a landlocked country ..

                          In 74 a kilo of thai sticks at the source was $3 USD ,
                          i figure there was quite a few sticks per kilo ,
                          they were making a killing with that stuff ,


                          then making up stories it was opiated to capitalize even further, just cant trust those drug dealers , they are quite profit driven wouldnt you say ?? lol ...

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                            I doubt I would be very high for 8 hours or even 4 hours off of Thai. I have never had anything last like that. 1 hour to be very high is the longest ever for me. I did not get to smoke Thai stick but had a bit of 'Thai' bud, not that super.

                            I had a Thai Stick in my possession 1978 until the police took it. Hope they smoked it.

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                              Nice of you to chime in mr mallard, hope all is well with you and yours!


                              Peace

                              S.S

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                                Not an expert on the subject of Thai sticks, but I fail to see the rational of throwing away opiates by mixing them with grass.

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