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    thanks but there is no roundup in my direct neighborhood, i checked the roots on one of them and noticed nothing particular. for sure i think of a fungus / bacteria or even a virus maybe...


    Originally posted by Teddybrae View Post
    Last year too? Then the problem may be environmental.


    I doubt the problem is overfeeding because the plants aren't dark green, no tip scorch, etc.


    Just a hunch ... have you got termites in yr garden? In any case pull one of those plants and look at the roots. You may see chewed roots.

    It may also be Nematodes which can be fixed by watering thru Molasses at One table spoon per gallon (4.5 litres). Nematode affected roots have lumps on them.
    Possible chemical spray drift. Roundup sprayed next door on an unfriendly breeze will do this.

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      Thanks for your replies. Good to see that noone immediately said broad mites or similar.
      If it is soil or genetics I am fine with it. I have taken a cutting of it to observe some more.
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        Looks like broccoli!

        At first i thought this was stress from using Azamax and Capt Jack's Dead Bug spray, but now im wondering. It seems to move from plant to plant, and goes away afyer about a week. This particular plant has been affected for almost 2 weeks now. Does anyone know what is causing these twisted tops? What are my remedy options?

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          Never seen anything like this. When did you spray? Was it hot? If the twisting moves from plant to plant I 'd say the issue was environmental. Have you looked into what is Azamax? What's in it? And what's in Captn Jacks?



          Originally posted by Teh_Baker View Post
          At first i thought this was stress from using Azamax and Capt Jack's Dead Bug spray, but now im wondering. It seems to move from plant to plant, and goes away afyer about a week. This particular plant has been affected for almost 2 weeks now. Does anyone know what is causing these twisted tops? What are my remedy options?
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            I'd check the roots first

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              Originally posted by Teddybrae View Post
              Never seen anything like this. When did you spray? Was it hot? If the twisting moves from plant to plant I 'd say the issue was environmental. Have you looked into what is Azamax? What's in it? And what's in Captn Jacks?
              Azamax: Azadirachtin A&B
              Cap'n Jack's: Spinosad

              I alternate sprays and spray once every 2 weeks. Always spray at sundown so there are no direct sun rays beeming on the plants, however temps are often still 80+ degrees. The last spray before the picture was taken was 1 week.
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                I guess you must need to spray this stuff or you wouldn't be doing it. All I can suggest is changing your times to spray in the morning when it's cooler. 80+ shouldn't be too hot. But not sure the spray is the problem anyway ... I give up!

                Originally posted by Teh_Baker View Post
                Azamax: Azadirachtin A&B
                Cap'n Jack's: Spinosad

                I alternate sprays and spray once every 2 weeks. Always spray at sundown so there are no direct sun rays beeming on the plants, however temps are often still 80+ degrees. The last spray before the picture was taken was 1 week.

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                  Originally posted by Teddybrae View Post
                  I guess you must need to spray this stuff or you wouldn't be doing it. All I can suggest is changing your times to spray in the morning when it's cooler. 80+ shouldn't be too hot. But not sure the spray is the problem anyway ... I give up!
                  Spraying in the morning is just not possible in my situation. I am at work at 5am and dont get home until 3.
                  I was mostly afraid it is cause by mites. I have never had to deal with them, but I know some of my neighbors have had issues in the past. The other plants that had similar twistiness no longer show the same signs. Perhaps it could just be some genetic mutation.

                  If it were your plant, would you just cut the effected tops off, or let them go and see what happens?
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                    I would let them live on. Hopeful, I guess ... maybe they'll come good. If Nature decides the tops must die, you won't be in any worse position than if you'd topped them. Let it be, as Lennon said.
                    Perhaps though you could dilute yr spray by half and spray them twice, a couple of days apart?



                    Originally posted by Teh_Baker View Post
                    Spraying in the morning is just not possible in my situation. I am at work at 5am and dont get home until 3.
                    I was mostly afraid it is cause by mites. I have never had to deal with them, but I know some of my neighbors have had issues in the past. The other plants that had similar twistiness no longer show the same signs. Perhaps it could just be some genetic mutation.

                    If it were your plant, would you just cut the effected tops off, or let them go and see what happens?

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                      Another grower i know in person, swears it is broad mites. Even though i dont have the wet/waxy looking leaves, i have been afraid of this. He recommends i use castile soap with any essential oil as a foliar spray to get rid of the issue. I have some on order. Will report results once i see some.
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                        Any idea what is up with this one? Started as spots and the brown/purple color has spread since.
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                          The plants were transplanted into new containers 2 weeks ago. The leaves are dark green with claws from 10 days. I can't see the mites.
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                              I think it's a blockage of iron and phosphorus caused by too much calcium. someone
                              will confirm?

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                                Originally posted by [k2] View Post
                                I think it's a blockage of iron and phosphorus caused by too much calcium. someone
                                will confirm?
                                could be lots of reasons to me looks like bleaching from cheap leds raise your lights further see how she takes it and maybe some type of slat or toxic build up. give it some clean water for few days
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