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Where is everyone buying seeds now?
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Jesco
Member
Last year, I had 3 orders fail to show, never had the problem before. No shows were from Attitude, Linda and Seedsman (paid for insurance with Seedsman and the second attempt arrived).
Problem for me is some of the specific strains I want are Seedsman, which seems risky to deal with now
Problem for me is some of the specific strains I want are Seedsman, which seems risky to deal with now
its sooo hard to get seeds atm im looking at new seed banks that ship here is there any other seed banks that ship here fucken covid is causing havok
please list them so i can check em out
I don't even bother ordering seeds anymore from overseas. I suspect the recent issues have something to do with this:
Australia trials new technology to intercept mystery seeds sent in the mail
In world-first, agriculture department uses high-resolution X-ray machine to detect presence of seeds
This article is more than 10 months oldAustralia trials new technology to intercept mystery seeds sent in the mail
In world-first, agriculture department uses high-resolution X-ray machine to detect presence of seeds
A package from China containing seeds received by a US resident. People in Australia, the UK, New Zealand and Canada have also received a range of different seeds in the post as part of what is believed to be a scam to to bolster an online store’s orders and ratings. Photograph: Kevin E Schmidt/Quad-City Times/ZUMA Wire/REX/ShutterstockJosh Taylor
@joshgnosisSat 7 Nov 2020 19.00 GMT The Australian agriculture department is undertaking a world-first trial of new technology aimed at detecting seeds sent in the mail after 228 reports of Australians receiving mysterious seed packets from overseas.
People in Australia and a number of other countries, including the US, UK, New Zealand and Canada, began reporting packets of seeds they had not ordered in mid-July.
The US Department of Agriculture has suggested that the seeds may have been sent as part of what is called a “brushing scam”. The scam is aimed at boosting third-party sellers’ ratings in online stores such as Amazon or eBay by setting up a fake customer account using someone’s name and address found in a data breach. They then buy a product using that account and ship small items to the person’s address, and then leave a five-star review for that seller.
Sowing doubt: people around world receive mystery seed parcels
Ministerial briefing documents obtained by the Guardian show Australian authorities have reached the same verdict.
“Seeds are often sent in the mail as a result of an e-commerce practice called ‘brushing’ to bolster their store’s orders and ratings and to increase their visibility online,” the question time briefing document prepared by the Australian agriculture department states.
Unidentified seeds received in the mail. Photograph: Department of Agriculture
US reports suggest people in all 50 states have this year received seeds in the mail they did not order.
The Australian agriculture department’s head of biosecurity, Lee Cale, told the Guardian it was a similar story in Australia, with 228 reports of unsolicited seeds being sent in the mail since the beginning of July.
“It’s actually in every state, we’ve received reports from every state now,” she said.
Motherboard has reported – based on documents obtained from US state agriculture departments – that hundreds and maybe thousands of Americans had planted the seeds when they received them.
Cale said that is not the case in Australia.
“We very strongly communicate the fact that if people do get these things … we very strongly encourage people to not plant them. Also, don’t throw them out. But to contact us on that dedicated line, and we will go and pick those seeds up.
“And then we’ll either, if we can re-export them to the centre, send them back, but more often than not will destroy them.”
The seeds are being sent from China, Malaysia, Taiwan and Pakistan predominantly, Cale said. Australian scientists had not examined the seeds here to determine what they are, but in US reports, the seeds included rose, sweet potato, onion, cucumber, tomato, radish, peppergrass, alfalfa, corn, lettuce, hollyhock and spearmint.
X-ray machine trial technology used to detect seeds sent in the mail. Photograph: Department of Agriculture, Australia
The agriculture department is trying a number of different ways to stop the seeds reaching people in Australia: alerting the jurisdictions where the seeds are coming from to stop them being sent in the first place; raising the issue with the Universal Postal Union; training detector dogs to sniff out the seeds; and now with a $1m trial of new X-ray machine equipment.
The trial is of “a world first seed detection project using real-time video imagery, an auto-detection algorithm, and low-energy, high-resolution X-ray to detect the presence of seeds inside mail articles”, department briefing documents say.
Cale said the current x-ray machine technology used at the border made it difficult for the seeds to be picked up, but the trial with x-ray technology company Rapiscan in Brisbane had been showing results in its early stages.
“We’re preparing for those phase-two trials at the training facility in Brisbane, and then very quickly we want to actually integrate that technology into the Sydney gateway [and] into our operational processes,” she said.
Algorithm automatically detecting seeds. Photograph: Department of Agriculture, Australia
Cale didn’t put a timeline on when it would be rolled out nationally, but said the second phase of the trial would move “quite rapidly”. The size of the machines, being much smaller than the typical mail screening machines, would make them easier to deploy.
“These are much more mobile. The idea would be to deploy those around the mail facilities around Australia.”
In the meantime, the department has encouraged anyone who receives seeds in the mail to report them via www.awe.gov.au/report or to call 1800 798 636.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...y-to-intercept-mystery-seeds-sent-in-the-mail
Australia trials new technology to intercept mystery seeds sent in the mail
In world-first, agriculture department uses high-resolution X-ray machine to detect presence of seeds
This article is more than 10 months oldAustralia trials new technology to intercept mystery seeds sent in the mail
In world-first, agriculture department uses high-resolution X-ray machine to detect presence of seeds
A package from China containing seeds received by a US resident. People in Australia, the UK, New Zealand and Canada have also received a range of different seeds in the post as part of what is believed to be a scam to to bolster an online store’s orders and ratings. Photograph: Kevin E Schmidt/Quad-City Times/ZUMA Wire/REX/ShutterstockJosh Taylor
@joshgnosisSat 7 Nov 2020 19.00 GMT The Australian agriculture department is undertaking a world-first trial of new technology aimed at detecting seeds sent in the mail after 228 reports of Australians receiving mysterious seed packets from overseas.
People in Australia and a number of other countries, including the US, UK, New Zealand and Canada, began reporting packets of seeds they had not ordered in mid-July.
The US Department of Agriculture has suggested that the seeds may have been sent as part of what is called a “brushing scam”. The scam is aimed at boosting third-party sellers’ ratings in online stores such as Amazon or eBay by setting up a fake customer account using someone’s name and address found in a data breach. They then buy a product using that account and ship small items to the person’s address, and then leave a five-star review for that seller.
Sowing doubt: people around world receive mystery seed parcels
Ministerial briefing documents obtained by the Guardian show Australian authorities have reached the same verdict.
“Seeds are often sent in the mail as a result of an e-commerce practice called ‘brushing’ to bolster their store’s orders and ratings and to increase their visibility online,” the question time briefing document prepared by the Australian agriculture department states.
US reports suggest people in all 50 states have this year received seeds in the mail they did not order.
The Australian agriculture department’s head of biosecurity, Lee Cale, told the Guardian it was a similar story in Australia, with 228 reports of unsolicited seeds being sent in the mail since the beginning of July.
“It’s actually in every state, we’ve received reports from every state now,” she said.
Motherboard has reported – based on documents obtained from US state agriculture departments – that hundreds and maybe thousands of Americans had planted the seeds when they received them.
Cale said that is not the case in Australia.
“We very strongly communicate the fact that if people do get these things … we very strongly encourage people to not plant them. Also, don’t throw them out. But to contact us on that dedicated line, and we will go and pick those seeds up.
“And then we’ll either, if we can re-export them to the centre, send them back, but more often than not will destroy them.”
The seeds are being sent from China, Malaysia, Taiwan and Pakistan predominantly, Cale said. Australian scientists had not examined the seeds here to determine what they are, but in US reports, the seeds included rose, sweet potato, onion, cucumber, tomato, radish, peppergrass, alfalfa, corn, lettuce, hollyhock and spearmint.
The agriculture department is trying a number of different ways to stop the seeds reaching people in Australia: alerting the jurisdictions where the seeds are coming from to stop them being sent in the first place; raising the issue with the Universal Postal Union; training detector dogs to sniff out the seeds; and now with a $1m trial of new X-ray machine equipment.
The trial is of “a world first seed detection project using real-time video imagery, an auto-detection algorithm, and low-energy, high-resolution X-ray to detect the presence of seeds inside mail articles”, department briefing documents say.
Cale said the current x-ray machine technology used at the border made it difficult for the seeds to be picked up, but the trial with x-ray technology company Rapiscan in Brisbane had been showing results in its early stages.
“We’re preparing for those phase-two trials at the training facility in Brisbane, and then very quickly we want to actually integrate that technology into the Sydney gateway [and] into our operational processes,” she said.
Cale didn’t put a timeline on when it would be rolled out nationally, but said the second phase of the trial would move “quite rapidly”. The size of the machines, being much smaller than the typical mail screening machines, would make them easier to deploy.
“These are much more mobile. The idea would be to deploy those around the mail facilities around Australia.”
In the meantime, the department has encouraged anyone who receives seeds in the mail to report them via www.awe.gov.au/report or to call 1800 798 636.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...y-to-intercept-mystery-seeds-sent-in-the-mail
zaprjaques
Well-known member
Hey, just asking cause i've seen you recommending oaseeds a couple times, do yo know if theyre still in business?
I ordered like 3 months ago and wrote some emails, tried reaching out over whatsapp but no communication was possible....
They may be in business but I can't trade with them any longer. Hook up with Panickz here.
zaprjaques
Well-known member
Their IG is up and running.
But non existing customer service....
Apparently this has happened to a number of people recently...
Probably not the best seedbank to do business with. No matter where youre at.
But non existing customer service....
Apparently this has happened to a number of people recently...
Probably not the best seedbank to do business with. No matter where youre at.
Yea oaseeds is missing in action with me too no communication just take your money and nothing but I'm hopeful because they have the new stuff from ace released this year but it seems some CAn have problems with orders I just barely ordered last week
No confirmation of nothing but I did see them do a special and change discount in the last week and I get newsletters often so their definitely in business
They seem very shady o man I just went through this shit now again with oaseeds its my first time ordering from. Them
so I paid for sure now let's see because I want that ph23a5h I should be waiting for it now but instead auto zam and killera5 might be on the way
No confirmation of nothing but I did see them do a special and change discount in the last week and I get newsletters often so their definitely in business
They seem very shady o man I just went through this shit now again with oaseeds its my first time ordering from. Them
so I paid for sure now let's see because I want that ph23a5h I should be waiting for it now but instead auto zam and killera5 might be on the way
zaprjaques
Well-known member
After contacting them over whatsapp, the message function and another email adress i got the news that the zamal bliss i ordered was out of stock 2 months after they recieved my payment.
Still status in my account on the webpage is awaiting payment.
Changed my order to ACE Ethiopian and Nepal Annapurna regs and they said they already shipped but delivery was not possible so i had to confirm my address again. they said they will re attempt another delivery....
somethings going on....
Edit:
Maybe covid messed up their situation like it did for so many other businesses.
Many people seem to have their orders dealt with right away, some might get left behind from time to time...
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StickyBandit
Well-known member
zaprjaques
Well-known member
StickyBandit Yeah, i'm an old smoothie 
Well I went and looked at my orders and it says I have not ordered anything thats strange 
I swear I authorized a payment by text to the cc .....
I swear I authorized a payment by text to the cc .....
zaprjaques
Well-known member
eventually my order from oaseeds arrived.
and quite quick and responsive this time.
had to ask for the tracking number and got it right away, package came in just a few days.
*scratch my head*
and quite quick and responsive this time.
had to ask for the tracking number and got it right away, package came in just a few days.
*scratch my head*
Budahstick
New member
Here is an Aussie site I used recently.
https://www.mediseedman.com/
Waiting for some cooler weather before germination of beans sent.
Good to do business with.
https://www.mediseedman.com/
Waiting for some cooler weather before germination of beans sent.
Good to do business with.
rod58
Active member
Early november last year i ordered from Bernies and two days later it was sent . 50 days later my tracking number became obsolete , customs probably , so i contacted bernies and another order was sent but this time sent via the other side of the country and two weeks it arrived . can't say enough good things about bernies as this has happened before and they just keep trying !
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Whoscottgreen
EDITED BECAUSE OF BAD EXPERIENCE
Hi Aussies this might be helpful for you guys.
Sorry I edited this because I'd hate to be the cause of getting someone raided. One of the experiences I was told about turned out to be problematic (not long after package arrived) with the law (customs informed police).
Good luck with next spring Aussies, again sorry for not being able to contribute.
Hi Aussies this might be helpful for you guys.
Sorry I edited this because I'd hate to be the cause of getting someone raided. One of the experiences I was told about turned out to be problematic (not long after package arrived) with the law (customs informed police).
Good luck with next spring Aussies, again sorry for not being able to contribute.
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