The DEA to move cannabis from Schedule I to Schedule III
- Thread starter CharlesU Farley
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Now that's something we can all agree on!!!
xtsho
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You can believe whatever flavor of the month is floating around the internet but that doesn't make it true.
Bayer and Johnson and Johnson are not going to form some monopoly growing cannabis and force you and I to purchase product from them.
phunkeeboodah
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good for them, and good for affirmative action : )
They would jump into an industry where they can refine and/or synthesize a product, control the market, and overcharge both consumers and insurance companies. There will be more VASTLY more profit than you believe.
See above
Federal law supercedes state. Federal inaction is due to one president pulling fed funding for enforcement from states w legal, and two presidents not fukn w it.
Studies will absolutely find one, probably many, results that you describe. I disagree, however, on your economic outlook. They DO care. Rec growers will affect their profit. American capitalism requires zero compromise and monopoly. This ain't the 50s anymore.
In my 40 plus years of canna activism I've only seen one positive move. That was prop 215. That's it. I don't count count Obama pulling fed funding cuz that just kicked the can down the road. Both donnie and Joe COULD have done something about it, for REAL, and reaped the benefit that would have come w it, but they haven't either. They know the US cartel ain't gonna be fucked w at this point in history.
CharlesU Farley
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Them who gots the money, makes the rules... always has been, always will be. And fucking lawyers do their dirty work for 'em and make it all "legal".New boss is same as the old boss.
As I said in a post a long time ago, if I was in your situation, I'd want to take a flamethrower to the whole fucking lot of them.
But there's absolutely no way that rescheduling from Sch 1 to Sch 3 is a _bad_ thing, especially when it's the _DEA_ that is the one pushing for it.
Sub24ox7
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It’s schedule 2 so there is pharmaceutical cocaine. But the most restrictive category.
xtsho
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I don't see anything changing for the negative. The legal states will continue doing what they've been doing with the exception of the cannabis industry being able to access banking and other services that have not been available to them.
I don't see this wide ranging plot that many of you do. How would it work? There was a thriving black market before state legalization and a decision by the federal government not to intervene. In the very unlikely event that these mega-corporations somehow take over an industry where all the big players are already going bankrupt or losing money the black market would just return and the penalties would be less severe.
There isn't enough profit cultivating and selling recreational cannabis for these companies to even bother with it. They make billions off of one drug brought to market. The biggest cannabis operators in the US are bleeding close to a billion dollars a year combined. They'll just buy some of the 3 million pounds of surplus from Oregon or even larger amounts of oversupply from other states for basically nothing and have all the weed they need to study, isolate specific things, extract, and sell it as a medical product. They work in labs not fields. There is more than enough cannabis sitting in warehouses to keep them supplied for years.
They have no interest in interfering with the recreational laws or stopping any of the state laws making it legal to grow and smoke. There are more people that don't smoke cannabis than do by a very large margin. They have plenty of customers for some medication derived from cannabis and prescribed by a doctor to make more money than wasting time growing and controlling the recreational market.
People have been waiting for a relaxation of the Federal Cannabis Drug Classification for years and now that it looks like it's going to happen and also at the same time some bipartisan decriminalization legislation is working it's way through Congress people seem to have nothing but doom and gloom. It's like people were dreaming for this day and now when it comes they call it a nightmare.
BeardogDaVe
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Hate it or love it DEA and the FEDs are only doing this because it benefits them monetarily and or control over the people and the people have proven we like weed!! Its definitely not just because its time to let the potheads have a win not trying to burst bubbles but there's gonna be alot to this we don't see yet and probably not for the good ! Certainly not to losen control and lose money especially not to Joe smo and his home grow or chad and his 100 light warehouses its gonna be frat buddies and their kickbacks and greased palms.
Descheduling as an option is a bit of an understatement.
The idea that some people can put words on paper (controlled drug schedule) and claim THAT is somehow a thing that gives them a right to use offensive force against OTHER people for using a plant in ways the magical paper says is illegal, is absurd. Yet...here we are, in fucking Absurdistan prohibition land, just a hop, skip and a jump from chattel slavery, where SOMEBODY else controls your body.
Freedom of choice for the peaceful individual is the only option. There should be NO SCHEDULE. None, zero, zilch!
If I don't have the right to tell you what you can or cannot ingest, and I certainly don't, it is impossible for me to delegate that nonexistent right to control you to a body politic or a bureaucracy. Literally, impossible. It's also literally impossible for a group of people (US tax serfs) to delegate the aggregate of allllll of their zero individual right, which still amounts to zero to a body politic or a bureaucratic agency.
Don't fall for their bullshit, only YOU have any real right to decide what you ingest or not.
Anything less, has the seed of domination and control, which are elements of slavery. Fuck that.
From one of Nixons cabinet, John Ehrlichman.
That sounds like NJ, where only corporations get monopoly on growing and selling, after paying bribes to get a handful of licenses with hefty price tags. Still 5 years for growing anything.
I had to print that out.
xtsho
Well-known member
Can you please explain how the DEA and the Feds are going to make money if cannabis is rescheduled to a class 3 drug? Not some outlandish claims that are not based in reality but something based in fact.
Thanks
Discorilla
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DEA and Feds will find a way to cite you for violations. Same way that people selling Painkillers get arrested.
Legalization in many of the states led to cops pulling you over and giving out DUIs for the smell of weed alone. They've been ceizing cash on the medical side, too. Unless decriminalization happens, the badges will continue to find ways to lock people up over it.
Legalization in many of the states led to cops pulling you over and giving out DUIs for the smell of weed alone. They've been ceizing cash on the medical side, too. Unless decriminalization happens, the badges will continue to find ways to lock people up over it.
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Also, even though they removed the 208 or whatever, it doesn't mean that they cannot implement a new scheme.
