South Oz Hydro Shop Alert

[cornflake]

The legalisation attempts in the US will fail too, the drug companies will never allow a plant that until 1900, provided mankind with 90% of his medicines, to be legal for people to use.

Now we have pharmaceutical companies to sell us our medicine, and they like how much money they make. It'll never happen, all we're seeing in the US is people putting their names down on lists, for the MAN to use when he wants, when it suits his needs.

Sorry about that.

 

[resinfingers]

well said parallel,
it is hard for recreational smokers to find good bud these days. i have been smoking for ten years and have stopped buying shit, chemical tasting, over priced hydro buds. i have gone outdoor (worried about fines. etc indoor) organic with a few african sativas which are hard to conseal from unwanting eyes that have ripped them before. yet it is still hard to get a years smoke just off one plant let alone it turns hermy or male. ptfff to the government, they're starting to turn S.A. into a police state or something.
For any one that smokes bud knows that, they are not pyschos, they are not violent, they just enjoy the relaxing feeling you get from the thc, let alone new ideas and creativity, but i guess the government dont want that. it helps me sleep with my insomnia, and also lifts me up when im down. i can hold a full time job and never crashed my car. so fuck off to these dickheads with all this propoganda and laws.
i know what happens when you drink too much, you fight, you crash cars, you make a fool of yourself, your body feels like shit and its a rip off just for one night out.
Think its all about control and money these new laws, and if the cops had any balls they should start finding more rapists/murders/violent people and locking them up. I got sucker punched by a drunk man 2 months ago and got 12 stitches. non provoked attack, he thought i was someone else, anyway still got brusing to the eye and a scar for life and the cops still haven't done sweet fuck all because its my word against him and his mates, and they lied and said they wern't even there. i even had witnesses, and shit just drags on and now i get harrased by the same dickhead for reporting it.
anyway ill stop my whining, hope ya'll all have a good harvest this fall. pz

loose lips, sink ships.

 

[Parallel]

Just a little update. Word on the street is that anything that's reasonably decent is fetching $280 per oz.

Somebody said to me expect to pay up to $4200 per pound (16oz)

The market in S.A. doesn't reward the grower for quality. Basically there is a market price and it is blanket price for everything, seriously good to really bad. There is little inspiration (money???) in growing superb quality cannabis, other than it may move slightly quicker. This certainly contributes to lower quality cannabis in S.A.

 

[BENJI]

$220-$240 for an oz and $3200 maybe 100-220 more or less for lbs round this time,,, prices are slowly going down round the end of may you will see prices drop to 200-180 for an ounce and $2800-$2600 for lbs...

The market in S.A. is absolute rubbish if it hasnt had rock juice or super bud added then for sure its going to have some PGR (Plant Growth Regulator) added to make the buds go ROCK HARD and lose all resins, smell and taste cant stand it,, that and commercial growers who dont have the first clue about growing quality cannabis contribute to the lower grade CRAP that get's round in S.A...

 

[b00m]

The market in S.A. is absolute rubbish if it hasnt had rock juice or super bud added then for sure its going to have some PGR (Plant Growth Regulator) added to make the buds go ROCK HARD and lose all resins, smell and taste cant stand it,, that and commercial growers who dont have the first clue about growing quality cannabis contribute to the lower grade CRAP that get's round in S.A...

I wholeheartedly second Benji's statement, nothing but rock hard shit 3/4 of the time here in adelaide, fucking hate it, commercial crap by crap commercial growers, shit sucks balls.

Peace

 

[Abraham Lincoln]

$220-$240 for an oz and $3200 maybe 100-220 more or less for lbs round this time,,, prices are slowly going down round the end of may you will see prices drop to 200-180 for an ounce and $2800-$2600 for lbs...

Quick question. I've been to oz and had the sweet fortune of traversing most of the continent (except SA, and Tas) while I was there. One thing baffled me though, everything BUT ganja is weighed using the metric system! Ganja is weighed by the American system of measurements (8ths, ounces, pounds)! Why is that?
Oh and distances are measured in km's but every now and again while on the road, I'd see signs for a 6mile creek, or 9 mile road (throughout oz). I know this is off-topic but I'm just curious about the blend of both metric and American system of measurements in australia?

 

[Guest50138]

We went metric in 1976 (i think) and your right dope is sold by the once and pound but smaller amounts by the gram? just a left over from the old days I guess.most things are sold by meric measure but if you buy a gate they are still in feet and inchs? and those name 6 mile creek ect would have been names long ago before metric. Aus is a big place as you know i measure distance on the road by how many joints i will need.Cheers Oldman

 

[Hughesy]

No way man! Pot is going for premium Rates and will ever be. Like the Prices of Food its only going up. Things NEVER get cheaper apart from Electronics. They Day that commercial pot is Ever $180 an Oz BEN i will eat my SH!T.

 

[BENJI]

No way man! Pot is going for premium Rates and will ever be. Like the Prices of Food its only going up. Things NEVER get cheaper apart from Electronics. They Day that commercial pot is Ever $180 an Oz BEN i will eat my SH!T.

Obviously you dont have a clue when its comes to the outdoor market as soon as that shit gets chopped the prices drop dramaticaly 3400-3600 a pound to 2800-2600 a pound the smaller stuff ounces and that reflect the price of pounds so when the pound price drops so does the ounce price,,,Personaly i would never pay over 220 maybe 240 for an ounce but i cant remember the last time i bought weed, I grow it myself for personal use never had to buy it unless i see something special like the white widow i got last year but there is always exceptions when quality is involved...

16 ounces at $200 each equals $3200 a pound,,,Pound prices go up so does the ounce price and vise versa...

Hughsey i remember 10-15 years ago pounds were going for 4-5000 each so your post about prices going up is far from right then again its WHO you know not what you know when talking about prices..

 

[Parallel]

Over the last couple of years the outdoor has affected the market price less. I'm not saying that the price doesn't drop, but it doesn't stay down for very long at all. With the increased risk (due to laws) and power going up faster than groceries - 30% hike recently, I understand that the price should be higher than it used to be. Like I said in my earlier post though, there is no reward for growing spectacular pot in South Australia. Some of the turd that people have tried to pass off lately (I could never, ever sell shit like this - I would make hash outa it) @ $250 per oz is ridiculous. I move a little of my harvest to friends for around $200 per oz. The quality of my home grown ganja shits all over anything I've seen for sale in the last five years. Problem is, on the rare occasion that I have to buy some (not often let me assure you) - it's overpriced and like I said before..... the quality is crap. My friends literally get excited when I'm nearing the end of a crop.... cause they know that they're gonna get some killer shit.

 

[BENJI]

Actualy ill re-word what i said there is Summer prices and Winter prices,,Your right about the outdoor market not keeping the price down for long Parallel but what i should of said is the time of year and weather conditions affect prices, during winter when commercial growers rooms are running cooler they yield much more thus flooding the market with alot more product then in summer when its gets HOT and they yield much less therefore the price rises substantialy...

 

[Parallel]

yeah, you're right there as well. I love Winter. Nuff said.....lol

 

[Hughesy]

Don`t Know Anyone that wants to Buy Bush unless it is 150-200 for it.
The Coota is worth $280+.
Electricity prices on the Rise Just Watch the Premium go up accordingly.
Mark.My words.

 

[Parallel]

It certainly will Hughsy, like I said in one of my earlier posts...... the extra risk and extra cost is going to affect prices for sure. I also know what you mean when you suggest that paying more for better quality is worth it. I'd pay the extra and have something decent myself. When I get rid of a little of mine through mates I think to myself..... wow this shit is like 3-4 times better than anything else I've seen lately, yet it's worth no more at wholesale level. I'm not saying that people should pay 3-4 times more for my produce, if anything I just think that my gear makes most other peoples weed look like shwag. Of course there are some people out there who produce some awesome quality in S.A. ....... I'm willing to bet that most of these few people producing top notch quality are amongst us lurking on ICMag. lol.

Let us OverGrow the sad state that is South Australia. We were once mighty and well regarded around the world for our great cannabis and relaxed laws. The good days are gone my friends, and the best way for us to protest the new legislation is to OverGrow S.A. I encourage all South Australians to fight for their right to grow a little cannabis by doing so. I encourage people who partake in the occasional spliff to try to educate ignorant folks who still haven't got over "reefer madness" propaganda. I know that this is easier said than done, and I don't suggest doing this while you cultivate either. Education is the key, we need to educate as many people that we can...... it might take a long time....... but hopefully we get somewhere in the end!!!

Peace out friends.....!

 

[mullray]

The Feds are Going After PGRs -----

The Feds are Going After PGRs -----

The APVMA did a fax out to all Australian hydroponic stores warning them that non compliant products being sold through hydroponic stores are under watch and that retailers face a 165,000 fine per product they are found with. They are also going to randomly seize products from stores and test them. I have a PDF of this memo I could upload but can't figure out how to upload it. Looks like the Finks will have to figure out how to hide their poisons ---- me finks Can anyone explain to me how I upload the APMA memo??

 

[b00m]

.......

 

[Schlossi]

Dont you worry about that Mullray.Just lookout for #1.

 

[mullray]

Important Regulatory Information for Hydroponic Retailers

If you sell chemical products to the commercial
hydroponic industry or to the general public you
need to be aware of the laws that govern the sale
of such products.
Under the Agricultural and Veterinary Chemicals Code of
each jurisdiction (collectively, the ‘Agvet Codes’), it is an
offence to advertise or supply unregistered agricultural
chemical products. These offences carry fines of up to
$33,000 for an individual or $165,000 for a company.
Selling plant growth regulators or other
hydroponic chemicals in Australia
Agricultural chemical products that might typically be
supplied by a hydroponics store and fall under the definition
of an agricultural chemical product include:
plant growth regulators (PGRs) or products that
contain plant growth regulating chemicals, such
products can also be described as nutrients, growth
boosters, vitamins, hormones and bloom enhancers
algaecides
water treatments
insect repellents
disinfectants
sanitisers.
These types of products generally require registration with
the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority
(APVMA) as agricultural chemical products.
How do I know if a product is registered?
To check if a product is registered, you need to check the
label on the product. Labels on registered products carry an
APVMA or NRA approval number.
This number is typically found at the base of the rear label
panel on the main container. The approval number contains
the product number, the pack size identifier and the month
and year of initial registration. A typical example might be:
APVMA (or NRA): 54321/1kg/0909.

What if I am selling unregistered agricultural
chemical products?

It is important to note that as a hydroponic retailer, you have
a responsibility to ensure that only registered agricultural
chemical products are sold or supplied via your store. The
fines and penalties for supplying unregistered agricultural
chemical products are significant.
The supply of an unregistered chemical product is an
offence under section 78 of the Agvet Codes. Action that
could be taken by the APVMA if a hydroponic store is found
to be selling unregistered agricultural chemical products can
include compulsory product recalls, compulsory stop supply
notices and even criminal prosecution. Fines relating to the
supply of an unregistered chemical product can be $165,000
for each offence.
To ensure your store is not supplying unregistered
agricultural chemical products, it is suggested you review
your product range and discuss with your supplier why a
product of concern does not have an APVMA or NRA
approval number on the product’s label. If you are still
concerned you can contact APVMA Compliance for a
confidential discussion. Contact details are overleaf.
Authorised APVMA staff (Inspectors) conduct random
hydroponic retail store inspections and if you are found to be
supplying or selling unregistered agricultural chemical
products you may be subject to the regulatory actions
outlined above.

 

[Cone Head]

Just thought I'd let you all know. All shops in SA that have received a licence have an amnesty until May. You can still buy everything from such shops as usual. I heard about 6 shops were refused a licence and will have to stop trading due to owners criminal history or something. The other thing is, the requirement for I.D. only applies to customers physically purchasing within the sate of South Australia. Online orders interstate will not be affected.

And just so you know. 100 points of I.D will only be required for the following items:

(a) metal halide lights, high pressure sodium lights and mercury vapour lights of 400 watts or greater;

(b) ballast boxes designed or intended for use in association with a light of a kind referred to in (a);

(c) devices (including control gear, lamp mounts and reflectors) designed to amplify light or heat and capable of being used in association with a light of a kind referred to in (a);

(d) carbon filters designed to filter air within a room, or from 1 area of a building to another or to outside;

(e) units designed to contain plants and rotate around a light source so that the plants grow hydroponically while being exposed to a consistent degree of light or heat or both.

This was taken directly from the SAPOL website.

So things we need that will not be a problem:

250W HID's
CFL's
LED's
Fans, ducts etc
Nutrients
Mediums
Small timers
Pumps
All other odd's and ends

So basically, its just those key items surrounding HID lighting, and carbon filters that are restricted, and those weird rotisserie things. If you think outside the square, order from interstate or even just drive across the border to Vic and stock up, you'll be fine. The day to day stuff can still be purchased with anonymity. These laws will not stop anyone with enough incentive from growing. And now that Michael Atkinson, the man responsible for these laws is retiring from the front bench, no doubt a legal challenge to these laws could be successful. Will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Number1]

$220-$240 for an oz and $3200 maybe 100-220 more or less for lbs round this time,,, prices are slowly going down round the end of may you will see prices drop to 200-180 for an ounce and $2800-$2600 for lbs...

The market in S.A. is absolute rubbish if it hasnt had rock juice or super bud added then for sure its going to have some PGR (Plant Growth Regulator) added to make the buds go ROCK HARD and lose all resins, smell and taste cant stand it,, that and commercial growers who dont have the first clue about growing quality cannabis contribute to the lower grade CRAP that get's round in S.A...

Rock juice hulk and few other yes

The newer Sbud formula only stops stretch

If you are getting lack of resin with the 08 onwards sbud formulas its due to something else

You also dont get the rock hard buds like the original sbud formula anymore

This is the problem tho rockjuice really ads significant weight gains and in the end thats what some are all about

I haven't seen any decent buds come out of SA for alot of years now


Early to mid 90's and they were producing shit loads of some of the finest


Also thinking back to the old 10 plant rule its a shame how SA has turned out

So what about in another 5 years or so when LED lights get cheaper and a whole lot more efficient and become the growing norm they intend to then place those on the ban list ?

Will this make it also illegal to buy on line interstate ?

Thats going to be hard to enforce

Lets hope other states dont follow suite