WHO WAS FIRST TO SOG?

[Limeygreen]

Ourcee,
SOG, which refers to Sea Of Green is Cannabis specific.
Name the other crop that used small clones, kept under vegetative light hours, transplanted into high densities, under flowering light cycles from day one of being transplanted?
I can't think of one can you?

While there is some similarities, is it not correct to say the dutch method, or greenhouse method rather, or growing vegetables, tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, eggplants, is sea of green. You plant single or pinched plants in high densities, remove suckers, keep single or double heads. While you don't do the same veg/flowering cycles, you keep the plants producing and the high yield is the same goal but with a different type of reproducing plant. Sorry for lack of better technical terms, as I should know, but I think I explain it in the right way. I am not trying to prove anyone wrong, but rather trying to discuss the methods. Sorry to stray a bit off topic, I don't know who first used it for cannabis.

 

[ShroomDr]

while im sure someone would love to have the claim to fame of 'the first to SOG' i really think the title would be a crock anyway.

Monocropping with artificially dense planting has been around for thousands of years; to me, claiming to be the first to SOG, is like claiming to be the first person to think of applying fertilizer specifically to MJ. (Anslinger says it's just a weed)

Not trying to knock the question Sam, but i think someone would have to be a real self serving egotistical asshole to claim they invented SOG. (i picture a marc emery type person lol)

 

[smurfin'herb]

Marc Emery!!! LMFAO!! spot on mate.

 

[High Country]

Ourcee,
SOG, which refers to Sea Of Green is Cannabis specific.
Name the other crop that used small clones, kept under vegetative light hours, transplanted into high densities, under flowering light cycles from day one of being transplanted?
I can't think of one can you?
I know rice, wheat, fruit trees, and other crops are grown at high densities, but I can't think of one that is kept vegetative, transplanted, and flowered small immediately.
The advantage is twice the yield and no down time for the grow area, but I personally do not like the smaller buds and more manicuring per OZ.
It is not for me but I am interested in SOG history, so I am looking for info about Who and Where, and When it was first used for Cannabis.

-SamS

Hello Sam, I agree, the yields are larger per sq/ft of grow but I don't find the buds any smaller than other cultivation styles and I also find it easier to manicure a single cola plant.

My SOG, clones straight onto 12/12 white pistils top to bottom on a single cola.

 

[medmaker420]

Adam in the garden of eden of course

 

[DocLeaf]

Anyone know who was first to SOG? Regardless of what they called it.
Who?
Where?
When?
Any reference in print, in a book or magazine?


I have heard it was SSSC in Holland, but I knew people in Oregon doing it before the SSSC folks were doing it. I knew the SSSC folks very well.
Any help appreciated!!

-SamS

There was an A4 pull-out brochure in HighTimes Magazine c1996/7 that briefly explained the SOG method and also advertised their book 'Sea of Green; The Perpetual Harvest', High Times Press, 1998.

http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Green-Perpetual-Harvest-Hans/dp/0964785811

But we guess the method is much older...

..methods of intensive agriculture using short spacing and small plants (similar to the SOG method) have been practised for centuries by Vikings in Norway, Sweden, and Alaska - where the growing season is shorter.

Hope this helps

 

[Haps]

I vote for Ringo.

 

[grow nerd]

I didn't do it.

 

[rocky5]

another intresting point is,the myans used hydro techniques
floating gardens and sewage was irrigated into the water for food supposodley.
nothing to do with sog but still intresting.

 

[DocLeaf]

Interesting thread nice topic

Which came first,, 'SOG' or 'sea of green' ??

SOG = specific method specific to intensive cannabis cultivation

sea of green = a term used to describe cultigens of the same species grown intensively over a short period

Intensive systems of mono-culture, in small cold places sometimes work better than mono-cropping (single giant plants) and relying on them as a main crop. Cultivating several smaller, faster crops, (like mini veg). can often be just as productive and reliable as growing just a few larger fruits... so to speak

The 'who', 'what', 'where', 'why', 'when',, now that's the really interesting part of anything,, esp. this thread

peace n flowers

 

[Nicoli]

im guessing mother nature was the first.

 

[grow nerd]

im guessing mother nature was the first.

Cute answer, but doubtful.

 

[LilHoldem-NB]

Great info here fellas keep it commin.

 

[risasdemaria]

Michael Wolf Segal, "Farmer in the sky" author for Sinsemilla Tips Tom Alexander's magazine is the name u'r looking for

to each its own ;-)

regards

 

[farmerinthesky]

Setting the record straight

Setting the record straight

and they try to say weed affects your memory in a negative way?

nice recall sir!

My name is Wolf. I am the inventor of the Sea of Green Method. Those wishing to read the full story are invited to the bio for my podcast on iHeart, etc The Farmer in the Sky Radio Hour. It is named after the column I had in Sinsemilla Tips magazine from Summer '82 until October 26, 1989 when Operation Green Merchant put me on 13 1/2 years of involuntary sabbatical in the care and custody of the US Bureau of Prisons and the Oregon Department of Corrections.
My claim is supported by Adam Dunn, who asked his connections in the Netherlands about it, Nevil who received the method at the same time as he received the Northern Lights collection from Greg McA, George Van Paten (Jorge Cervantes), Tom Alexander (publisher of Sinsemilla Tips magazine.
The first book to mention it was my 1985 "Growing Indoors for Fun and Profit." I'd first written about it in Sinsemilla Tips a year or two earlier and I believe George/Jorge wrote about it in a High Times article in '84.
Years later I realized that what I had done was adapted the Lebanese Hash Plant growing techniques to indoor Cannabiculture.

 

[St. Phatty]

im guessing mother nature was the first.

I agree.

The ability of a weed-like plant to propagate when it's roots contact moist soil ...

it's a good survival strategy for a plant.


Blackberry does it all the time.


Admittedly, when nature does it, it's a branch here and a branch there.

I've seen growing tips drop to the ground after a chunk of a pot plant got eaten by a deer.

Obviously those growing tips are super vulnerable to the sun.

But in an environment like NorCal Coastal, during a time of 100% humidity - a broken off growing tip has a chance of rooting.


That's sort of like SOG.

It's not a perfect matrix of 10 x 10 or 4 x 4 like some of the sea of greens I've seen.


I was going to nominate Vic High @ BCGA.

I don't know if his grow-outs of 100 seeds were technically SOG, but they were damn impressive.

He crossed a bunch of classics with C99, and sold them under the * Queen name.

 

[SAMSEED]

wolf segal

 

[Dropped Cat]

Michael Wolf Segal aka the Farmer in the Sky.

i knew a guy in the late 70's that did indoor who flowered
single stalk cannabis, individual pots with hps street lamps converted.

No relation, just did what came to him. His mom helped with the
grow in their garage in south FL.


Good stuff.

 

[rolandomota]

I was going to say the hash makers but all that's been covered in the last posts

 

[CharlesU Farley]

Setting the record straight

Setting the record straight



My name is Wolf. I am the inventor of the Sea of Green Method. Those wishing to read the full story are invited to the bio for my podcast on iHeart, etc The Farmer in the Sky Radio Hour. It is named after the column I had in Sinsemilla Tips magazine from Summer '82 until October 26, 1989 when Operation Green Merchant put me on 13 1/2 years of involuntary sabbatical in the care and custody of the US Bureau of Prisons and the Oregon Department of Corrections.
My claim is supported by Adam Dunn, who asked his connections in the Netherlands about it, Nevil who received the method at the same time as he received the Northern Lights collection from Greg McA, George Van Paten (Jorge Cervantes), Tom Alexander (publisher of Sinsemilla Tips magazine.
The first book to mention it was my 1985 "Growing Indoors for Fun and Profit." I'd first written about it in Sinsemilla Tips a year or two earlier and I believe George/Jorge wrote about it in a High Times article in '84.
Years later I realized that what I had done was adapted the Lebanese Hash Plant growing techniques to indoor Cannabiculture.

This guy was the real deal, Wolf. Many people in the Usenet group adpc used this method, along with the screen 'o green, ScrOG. He's an_real_ OG of the PNW scene, worked with NL Seattle Greg.

Farmer In The Sky