Wild Skunk

[zamalito]

I was just wondering if you guyse ever plan on bringing this strain back. I remembered reading that it was an f1 that was 50% columbian 50% acapulco/afghan (the same as skunk 1). Is that true?

 

[muddy waters]

i wish someone would bring back the original big thicket hog-nosed skunk from southeast texas aka the rooter skunk aka texas skunk aka the gulf coast badger skunk aka that ol' conepat.

unfortunately, no one preserved the genetics so its classic skunkiness--and it was a true, old-fashioned, never hybridized full blooded skunk--is gone forever.

http://www.handsontheland.org/classroom/01/handson/Animals/Mammals/Hog_Nose_Skunk/hog_nose_skunk.htm

 

[NuggyBuds]

Alas... we've lost the skunkyness. even skunk they sell now ain't so skunky anymore.

 

[Kashgar]

Ciao Zamalito,

wild Sk is the partly stabilized Sk as brought by Clarke and Watson to Amsterdam in the mid 80's.

Peace.

 

[Guest]

oh, the good old road kill skunk. smells just like a real polecats ass. I was very young but I still remember that unbelievable odor. I am sure some oakie from miskogie has some still growing in the woods somewhere. I understand somewhat the argument about the smell creeping through brick walls getting people busted. but you would think someone would have put some of those seeds away instead of discontinuing the genetic line,WHAT A LOSS. maybe one day we will get lucky and either find one in some hybrid or seedline(hope). just my .02, cyrus.....

 

[Kashgar]

The skunky smell lives in the old wild skunk seeds.
I know these seeds have been preserved by several dedicated breeders, so nothing is really lost…

Here are some pics of a Cultivators Choice “sweet“ Skunk#1 selected from 30 seeds(CC Skunk#1 being the exact same cross than TFD The Pure).
It was the most indica dominant and one of the only five true females I got from 12 different girls.
The taste and effect are indeed interesting but the number of females exibiting male flowers sucks for real...and they do produce seeds…
It is sad TFD restricted themselves to offer the same old cross made in 1984 rather than an improved version without “hermie “ tendancies.
I’m not an antiquities collector…

Hope this helps the true connoisseurs.
Peace.

 

[bergerbuddy]

I'm growing the pure at first it looked like it was male... and IT WAS.. then the female flowers started showing, and male flowers stopped... now 3 wks in.. it appears like its flowering nicely... I suppose it will produce some seeding.. but it hasn't produced any viable bananas yet... How likley will it be that this plant is substantailly fine.. and will have nice bud... versus looking like something thats been in a field with males all around it.... I also have other plants in the vicintiy?

 

[Kashgar]

According to my experience, the male flowers appear during the last three weeks of flowering indoor….
The seeds produced were not at all mature but more like erzatz: small underdevelopped white pods. This is still not pleasant to smoke and much labor intensive to sort them out.
I also grew TFD The Pure several years ago with the same result. I don’t have pics of them but still have the breeder pack they came from.
At the same time than The Pure, I had good results with TFD RMC.
Peace.

 

[Guest]

It is sad TFD restricted themselves to offer the same old cross made in 1984 rather than an improved version without “hermie “ tendancies.

Maybe, but also maybe it is cool to have the line in that early unspoilt form too, gives others something to work with. Would be Interested to hear your views on the quality of high and the smell's of the plants.

Also would you say these are lines from the Skunk2? or is 'wild Skunk' something else Kashgar?

Peace, hhf

 

[Kashgar]

or is 'wild Skunk' something else Kashgar?

Q,
It is the old Californian Skunk#1...

Now please avoid to use the infos you gather on the net to help you put on the market some fake wild skunk seeds, the same way as you are doing with your fake haze seeds without pedigree...
If your pure sativa is good no need to use a already well established strain name.It will become famous by itself.
You re not doing a good thing for the community when you act like that.
And if you re really interested as you often proclaim about Skunk#1 genetics why not try to grow the different version and see by yourself.

Paz.

 

[Guest]

the same way as you are doing with your fake haze seeds without pedigree...

These lines come from before your friends hacked them to pieces, from before they had even heard the word 'Haze', they where called 'Haze' then, they will be called 'Haze' now. Really glad you don't like that..

It is not I or any one else that has these lines that needs to substantiate pedigrees of these Haze lines, its your friends with their statements of 'Nevil collecting Hazes personally from the brothers' lol..these lines meet with all of the old descriptions of the pure Hazes.

Now please avoid to use the infos you gather on the net to help you put on the market some fake wild skunk seeds,

roflmao, you are in FDM's forum trolling their work just as MNS are planning to release some old wild skunk lines, lol, did you 'improve' those?

You re not doing a good thing for the community when you act like that.

Kash, you do nothing useful for any community with your pathetic trolling and spamming of MNS work. Never have and never will..

hhf

 

[Kashgar]

'Nevil collecting Hazes personally from the brothers'

Please can you provide a link to that quote?

Kash, you do nothing useful for any community with your pathetic trolling and spamming of MNS work. Never have and never will..

I m just a grower sharing his experience and knowledge.
If this is the definition of a troll according to you, then i m proud of this appellation.
I never ever sold one seed in my life, but I have grown all the major seed players since 1992.
Can you say the same?

 

[Kashgar]

Also did you forget Oldtimer1(the father of your fake haze seeds) was claiming to have been involved also with the developement of the Californian skunk#1?

I was involved in contributing genetics in the early days towards the breeding of what later became skunk#1, but I don’t like what it has become now.

link: http://uk420.com/boards/lofiversion/index.php/t22714.htm

So according to you Oldtimer1 is in fact the originator of Skunk#1 and Haze?
This is interesting...lol

 

[Kashgar]

A last quote of interest:

I was at the first High times Cannabis Cup and can assure you that Neville did not buy any Original Haze seeds.He had gotten them well before the event. And he did get a clone from me because he did not want to grow a few hundred Original Haze seeds to pick out a keeper.

The problem with that quote is that everybody knows the Haze used by Neville are 2 particular males and not a single female clone.
You know what? I think Neville finally germinated the "few hundred Original Haze seeds" he got.

Paz.

 

[Guest]

If this is the definition of a troll according to you, then i m proud of this appellation.

Your comments and mannerisms are that of a troll, 100% for sure, no doubts. Pleased you find happiness in that lol

Also did you forget Oldtimer1(the father of your fake haze seeds) was claiming to have been involved also with the developement of the Californian skunk#1?

Trying hard again to discredit those way out of your league? I did not forget those words at all, I spent many hours discussing them with OT, many more contemplating them, I have and do grow those genes, there is no doubt in my mind what they are.

I have absolutely no reason to doubt OT1, any of his words, why do you, so tell me, tell us all, what is fake about OT1s Haze lines?

So according to you Oldtimer1 is in fact the originator of Skunk#1 and Haze?

How could it be according to me troll? those are OT1's words your quoting..lol

Why do you doubt him, got some evidence to support anything, or you just doing the usual MNS shit of throwing as much shit as possible and hoping some will stick, your trolling me and twisting OT1's words...what's your problem. Apart from the obvious..

The problem with that quote is that everybody knows the Haze used by Neville are 2 particular males and not a single female clone.
You know what?

rofl, no one knows it, just because you and Hempy keep saying it, it does not make it fact. This is the one male that Sam gave him right? and the other that he got according to your friends directly from the Haze brothers in California. That is what your trying to say from your quote of KIA4S above is it?

SamS says that clone was not a selected one and was destined for the bin, his words. The other statement is just total and utter bullshit. Want to elaborate?

I think Neville finally germinated the "few hundred Original Haze seeds" he got.

Yeh, Yeh, Yeh...blah, Blah, Blah...just like all the old skunk lines eh? never seen any P1s from your friends, ever just words, its just all empty statements, show it, prove it. We would all love to see the pure Haze you guys have.

Nevil got these from where? the Haze brothers, lol or Sam?...back to your usual troll, troll, troll, then more Spamming of MNS seeds...way to go Kash, came back in to see if you had posted anything of substance for once. But no, the usual crap..''MNS have the only Hazes in the world'' the original everythings..lol.

Anyway, im dying to hear how OT1s haze line is fake and everything Nevil touches is the original despite all coming from SamS who you slate.

hhf

 

[Kashgar]

Quote:
So according to you Oldtimer1 is in fact the originator of Skunk#1 and Haze?



How could it be according to me troll? those are OT1's words your quoting..lol

Why do you doubt him, got some evidence to support anything, or you just doing the usual MNS shit of throwing as much shit as possible and hoping some will stick, your trolling me and twisting OT1's words...what's your problem.

Sorry but I am not an historical revisionist like you are.
To my knowledge the Haze we all know was created by the Haze brothers and Skunk#1 by Sam.
I'm done with you...
Paz.

 

[Kashgar]

This is the one male Sam game him right?

Wrong, Sam gave Neville a female cutting...

I gave my worst Original Haze clone because I did not trust Neville, and I was right. Although he promised to not make pure Haze seeds a year later he did. It was my worst and headed for the trash but he begged me to give it to him anyway so I did, and I did tell him it was my worst and headed for the trash. He said he would only use it to make his own Haze Hybrids, then I would not of cared.I only gave him one female but he also had some pure Original Haze seeds so he also could of had a male, I do not know for sure.

Hope this helps.
Peace.

 

[Guest]

Originally Posted by Sam_Skunkman aka Knowsitall4sure at cannabisworld.com
I gave my worst Original Haze clone because I did not trust Neville, and I was right. Although he promised to not make pure Haze seeds a year later he did. It was my worst and headed for the trash but he begged me to give it to him anyway so I did, and I did tell him it was my worst and headed for the trash. He said he would only use it to make his own Haze Hybrids, then I would not of cared.I only gave him one female but he also had some pure Original Haze seeds so he also could of had a male, I do not know for sure.


Hope this helps.
Peace.

Helps explain the obvious bottleneck and severe lack of selection in those lines i suppose.

That is obvious, what is not obvious is how you going to support your statement above about OT1's 'fake Haze' lines. We are all waiting...after you.

hhf

Also did you forget Oldtimer1(the father of your fake haze seeds) was claiming to have been involved also with the developement of the Californian skunk#1?

 

[Kashgar]

Maybe if you really want this to go further you should begin a new thread somewhere else?
I m not going to bother TFD with your stories...

Anyways it is to the revisionist to proove his points.
Please expose your arguments in a new thread(or invite Oldtimer1 to do it) and maybe then I will answer why I know Ot1 is a joke.
I already answered a lot of your questions in the present thread so now this is up to you...

 

[zamalito]

I've heard neville called a lot of things but being 100% honest about the origins of his lines is not one of them. Look at the g13 story, come on.... some secret university of mississippi cutting? Yeah right. This thread was about the tfd's wild skunk line, which was available only 3 or 4 years ago. Then hf asked a legitimate uninsulting question about the wild skunk and was attacked on a totally different topic. I'm sorry kashgar but if you have a problem with ot1's haze line it's your responsibility to start a thread saying its not what he says it is. The ot1 haze is a beautiful strain and I'd rather have two packs of it than 10,000 neville's haze seeds. I haven't seen hf post anything about the ot1 haze for 2-3 months. I know for a fact that hf believes ot1's story of his haze and is trying very hard to prove his beliefs. Is that really a reason to attack someone on an unrelated thread? I've been growing about as long as you kashgar. Though dutch genetics werent available to me until the late 90's I have grown all three brands of neville's haze and IMO none meet my criteria for breeding stock .
To me the only one of them that compares to a good mexican highland colombian, thai or south indian is tfd's.