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Imports? Unfortunately that will probably remain a dream.

First off . . . it is very unlikely that any legal country will allow imported products from a country where said product is illegal. So unless Jamaica, Lebanon, Afghanistan et al legalize recreational cannabis, they will never be able to legally export. I think that this was even defined in Canada’s legislation regs and it probably will be in every country that follows.

One of the arguments the pro-cannabis people always use is that legal cannabis will be a boon to local growers and local companies. Well, we know that this is only true for those that can afford to play and you can be sure that they - and their legislative 'partners' - will go out of their way to exclude any imported products from the marketplace. If you look through the legal Canadian offerings you will see stuff called Lebanese and Afghan and Moroccan and all of them were grown in Canada . . . in the style of . . . or using seeds reputed to be from . . . or just fake names altogether.

And even more depressing, if you read the imported hash thread, the growers in Morocco are ditching local strains and they are using new genetics for faster/quicker/better yields . . . so the days of old and the products of old are gone. Forever.
Go to the "Real Seed Company) for them
 

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Yeah just get the seeds grow them out and make dry ice kief with them. Their climate could influence it. Well wine is imported, why wouldn't cannabis be. We should start calling it hemp guys! THCA hemp is actually a pretty good name for medical cannabis, and its federally legal already. But as soon as its dried down, the delta 9 THC will increase past the threshold.
 

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Imports? Unfortunately that will probably remain a dream.

First off . . . it is very unlikely that any legal country will allow imported products from a country where said product is illegal. So unless Jamaica, Lebanon, Afghanistan et al legalize recreational cannabis, they will never be able to legally export. I think that this was even defined in Canada’s legislation regs and it probably will be in every country that follows.

One of the arguments the pro-cannabis people always use is that legal cannabis will be a boon to local growers and local companies. Well, we know that this is only true for those that can afford to play and you can be sure that they - and their legislative 'partners' - will go out of their way to exclude any imported products from the marketplace. If you look through the legal Canadian offerings you will see stuff called Lebanese and Afghan and Moroccan and all of them were grown in Canada . . . in the style of . . . or using seeds reputed to be from . . . or just fake names altogether.

And even more depressing, if you read the imported hash thread, the growers in Morocco are ditching local strains and they are using new genetics for faster/quicker/better yields . . . so the days of old and the products of old are gone. Forever.
Federal legalization is still just a dream. If it was to happen other countries would legalize and at that point it would be no different than importing alcohol.

Also lots of seed companies have the old school strains and I imagine there's a lot of people in those countries that prefer growing the old school native Sativa's. Just look at some of the haze and landrace sativa threads around here. Dudes are still growing them massive long flowering lower yielding plants and just love doing it. Lots of original Afghan genetics available Sensi Seeds still has it. Thai, Oaxacan, most of the popular sativa is available in seed somewhere. I've even seen a few from Africa, just never seen Moroccan seeds.
 

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I'm thinking federal legalization may come around after THC has been legalized already through the hemp industry.

But they want to do it carefully and with political gain wherever possible so its going to be a while. happy 4:20 by the way! :smoke:
Yeah, they legalized everything but Delta 9 THC, which is pretty crazy, most of the dispensary weed I see is less than .3 Delta 9 THC and just pretty high THCA. Really makes me wonder if all weed is actually low in Delta 9 until you heat it up, be nice to see some of the old strains tested Skunk #1, Haze and Northern lights.

Hopefully it remains legal, but I've been hearing a lot of complaints coming from the big guys with dispensaries. Also several states have fully outlawed hemp products because of it. Actually a little worse than I thought looks like most of the recreational states and I'm pretty sure I heard Texas and Tennessee were banning it too.

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Its interesting the prohibitionits such as Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita wait until late in the process to really bring out their points for discussion. Indiana SB 478 Craft Hemp passed both the Senate and the House as well as 5 committees before being derailed in the final conference committee which was tasked with finalizing the language of the bill. The fact is the prohibitionists are having a difficult time getting support, so they have to wait and use last minute tactics to derail the efforts. There are 9400 hemp retailers in the state and its likely the state doesn't have the ability or resources to enforce a ban against all the stores and consumers in the hemp market.

The prohibitionists are losing power. Hemp continues to be legal for another year or 2 until a bill gets passed in Indiana, despite the opinion by Attorney General Todd Rokita that hemp derived cannabinoids are illegal in the state which is absurd because the law has the same language from the 2018 Farm Bill definition of hemp, less than 0.3% delta 9 THC.

The prohibitionists probably want to avoid having a large pushback of support for full cannabis reform, so they are playing their cards conservatively. 85% of Indiana residents support cannabis reform in annual survey from Ball State University.
 

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Rokita and other prohibitionists would like to change the definition of hemp, of which they know little about.

Currently any product which is made from hemp which has tested at 0.3 % delta 9 THC is legal. The product itself doesn't have to be tested if derived from hemp.


Attorney General Rokita called on lawmakers to classify any product exceeding 0.3% total THC by dry weight, including synthetics, as marijuana to close the loophole and ensure clarity for law enforcement.


Read the full letter from Attorney General Rokita here.


A headshot of Attorney General Rokita is available for download.

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Yeah they known they don't have the support to pass their oppressive laws, so they throw it out at the end when there's no time to discuss the points.


The opposition points he was making was brought out in committee and on the floor, but I think it was partially the supporting representatives' fault for not refuting those points more thoroughly so they can be brought to light.

It was almost as if the supporters were covering up the complete truth about hemp and the implications of the bill. They should have brought up personal liberty, but they grazed over it with remarks about the market.

When one representative brought up the point that consumers could take the products to become intoxicated, the supporter rep. said you could but most people are using them as wellness products and being moderate in their use. Kind of shortening the conversation by not discussing adults right to use the products at their discression freely.
 
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Is the information and research publicly available which the HHS and FDA used to determine cannabis has medical value and should be moved to Schedule 3?

Is the DEA the only ones with access to this information? The public should be able to view all the information used as a basis for the reschedule recommendation so its open to public scrutiny and review.

I don't like this closed doors DEA administrative court business. Looks shady and corrupt.
 

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Indiana always has a bill but it gets sent back down for more debate. with no disaster relief or fed medicaid support upcoming they may look at the money going to the border of other states in a different light.
 

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The hemp bill almost became law, it passed the senate then the house, but stalled and died in the conference committee when they couldn't agree on the language. Better to leave it with the federally legal hemp wording than change the definition of hemp. Would have allowed marijuana/medical cannabis/thc rich hemp to be legal and regulated with age restricitons through the legal loophole allowing THCA hemp.
 

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Yeah its common sense, shouldn't sell them to children, but the 2018 farm bill didn't restrict hemp access so there is no legal requirement at the moment from what I understand.
 

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Still waiting for them to start researching, but they have to make that decision first then wait until the research center is built. Will be plenty of time to wreck more patients' lives and take their kids and property. They're from the government and they're here to help. Our rulers are good for nothing wicked men with their foot caught in a snare of deceit and confusion.

God will get it sorted out in His time. Be careful out there.
 

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