Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[VinScentVanGro]

another lie

which i've already pointed out a couple times iirc

Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration | ACLU

www.aclu.org

How many judges tried to stop him??

 

[VinScentVanGro]

so you don't care about them being criminals or illegals, you admit you just want brown ppl the heck out?

People going to immigration hearings aren’t illegal?

 

[nepalnt21]

she's brave, i'll give her that... scrappy but she's missing the point that the gestapo aren't prioritizing criminals or illegals.. and i thought you didn't care whether they were illegal... also

Are illegal immigrants more likely to commit crimes than legal immigrants? - Criminal Immigration Lawyer in NY & NJ

The topic of immigration continues to spark intense debate, particularly regarding the crime rates associated with various immigrant groups. A pivotal

criminalimmigrationlaw.com

Conclusion​

In summary, the assertion that illegal immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than legal immigrants is not substantiated by empirical data. Both groups generally exhibit lower crime rates than native-born citizens. To effectively address the root causes of crime among immigrants, it is imperative to implement supportive policies that enhance access to resources and promote community integration. By fostering understanding and collaboration, we can create a safer and more inclusive society for everyone.

FAQs​

Are illegal immigrants more likely to commit violent crimes?

No, studies indicate that illegal immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes compared to native-born citizens, challenging the stereotype that associates immigration with increased violence.

What are the most common crimes committed by illegal immigrants?

The majority of offenses committed by illegal immigrants are non-violent, primarily related to immigration violations and minor infractions, rather than serious criminal activity.

 

[nepalnt21]

People going to immigration hearings aren’t illegal?

i'm guessing sometimes, but of they're illegal and want to stay... makes more sense for them to skip, right? does to me, but maybe you've got some data to support your implied assertion?

many of the ppl being kidnapped by icetapo HAD THEIR CASES DISMISSED BY A JUDGE, now why would the judge do that if they're illegals?

 

[VinScentVanGro]

she's brave, i'll give her that... scrappy but she's missing the point that

That….. grown men from her own race will abuse her to shut her up.

 

[nepalnt21]

Yeah…. That all happened after they shot tear gas into a peaceful crowd.

bullshit

 

[VinScentVanGro]

many of the ppl being kidnapped by icetapo HAD THEIR CASES DISMISSED BY A JUDGE, now why would the judge do that if they're illegals?

lol.

 

[VinScentVanGro]

bullshit

I’m sure you can find the video.

 

[nepalnt21]

That….. grown men from her own race will abuse her to shut her up.

"just get all the brown ppl out, regardless of their legal status"

 

[nepalnt21]

I’m sure you can find the video.

i did, they (the angry mob) were trying to smash through windows and shit into the capitol.

what you said was false.

aka "bullshit".

 

[VinScentVanGro]

"just get all the brown ppl out, regardless of their legal status"

If you knew any brown people or any immigrants they will all tell you. You’re either a citizen or you might get deported.

 

[nepalnt21]

or even if you're a citizen apparently,

Deportation of Americans from the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

but why go after legal immigrants? don't you think that might undermine public trust in our legal system? maybe make ppl refuse to show up to their hearings? maybe inspire them to never call the cops even if it's dire?

@VinScentVanGro

 

[Captain Red Eye]

undermine public trust in our legal system?

It's reasonable not to trust the existing legal system.

It's forcibly funded. It's agents have immunity from many of their bad actions.

It features prosecuting, fining and jailing people for victimless crimes.

A legal system that is extortion funded and then has the temerity to call itself, "the justice system" shouldn't exist.

Also, there is no lock step mindset of the individual that make up "the public" therefore no "public trust" or single mindset. There never will be, which is a decent reason to abandon the unjust legal system that attempts to say they "represent all the people". If all the people have varying ideas, no single system could represent them all. Flush the turd, don't polish it.

 

[nepalnt21]

It's reasonable not to trust the existing legal system.

It's forcibly funded. It's agents have immunity from many of their bad actions.

It features prosecuting, fining and jailing people for victimless crimes.

all true

A legal system that is extortion funded and then has the temerity to call itself, "the justice system" shouldn't exist.

what's a better idea? how do we get there?

Also, there is no lock step mindset of the individual that make up "the public" therefore no "public trust" or single mindset. There never will be, which is a decent reason to abandon the unjust legal system that attempts to say they "represent all the people". If all the people have varying ideas, no single system could represent them all.

i think this part undermines your point, everyone can never be completely happy at once, that's not a reason to abandon any and all states.

Flush the turd, don't polish it.

how? and please don't give me that "stop voting" silliness

 

[GOT_BUD?]

It’s hard when judges won’t let the president do what the people voted for. Nobody was complaining when Mr Sotero was going full blown fascist. View attachment 19216271

And they didn't have to resort to kidnapping people or calling in the national guard and the marines like a giant pussy would and did.

 

[nepalnt21]

^^^ yeah i thought we weren't supposed to use troops on american soil against americans...

anyway, also, @Captain Red Eye
to add to my post above... none of what you said is a good argument against my point.

 

[RobFromTX]

Nepalnt are you still growing those ethiopian x bangi haze? Im seeing way too much TDS and not enough TLC

 

[audiohi]

in 2013 alone St.obama deported 438,421 people . how many has trump deported?

It’s hard when judges won’t let the president do what the people voted for. Nobody was complaining when Mr Sotero was going full blown fascist. View attachment 19216271

Kinda like the tear gas at jan6th?

 

[Captain Red Eye]

all true


what's a better idea? how do we get there?


i think this part undermines your point, everyone can never be completely happy at once, that's not a reason to abandon any and all states.


how? and please don't give me that "stop voting" silliness

A better idea than extortion funding something is to fund things on a consensual basis where consumers have choices. For example grocery stores aren't extortion funded or coercive monopolies and that model works very well.

How to get there is to stop doing the thing that doesn't work (based in a forcible monopoly) and start doing the thing that does. (Based in free choices)

This is complicated by the populace largely being ignorant of the possible alternatives. That doesn't have to be the case, because it's held in place by the coercive monopoly now due to mercenary self-interest, lies and propaganda that makes it difficult, but not impossible to change it.

When people don't like a given grocery store or a given service supplier which operates in a competitive market people can "vote" with their feet.

We aren't "allowed" to do that now with many things due to the existence of the forcible monopoly.

A single forcible supplier of any kind of service that is forcibly funded is incapable of delivering justice in the same way a rapist is not who you would go to if you were seeking relationship counseling.

Voting to see which rapist is the least rapey isn't the same as free choice is it?

 

[audiohi]

And they didn't have to resort to kidnapping people or calling in the national guard and the marines like a giant pussy would and did.