Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[CosmicGiggle]

......... a second Civil War threat is extreme, but if that's what it's gonna take to divert trump from running 2024 and ruining things for the Reps, threaten away!

 

[GOT_BUD?]

What's really funny is MAGA thinks us liberals are unarmed.

 

[Zeez]

........ now he's calling for a demonstration/riot

'It's time!!! Protest, protest, protest!!!' Donald Trump calls for Americans to take to the streets after claiming he'll be arrested by Manhattan DA on Tuesday as prosecutors move to indict him over $130K hush money paid to porn star Stormy Daniels
The former president wrote a provocative post to his TruthSocial platform as he raged about the possibility he faces arrest by prosecutors in New York
He said 'it's time' and called on his supporters to stage demonstrations and 'save America'
Hours earlier, Trump said he'll be arrested on Tuesday over claims he broke the law by paying porn star Stormy Daniels to conceal and alleged affair

DailyMail.com https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-protest-claiming-hell-arrested-Tuesday.html

Interesting. I have not heard this development.

Maybe he thinks that NY cops will sit on their hands while his band of hooligans tare the place up. Last time they did have guns and explosives stashed for a larger confrontation.

 

[unclefishstick]

luckily his feckless minions have proven to be extremely bad at planning in the past...and didn't show up after the raid on tacky-lago

 

[Zeez]

It's a huge double standard of justice that he can drag this out so long and delay with 'special' hearings. I hope justice finally gets done with indisputable facts. It must be clear to most by now that the man has been cheating and stealing his entire life.

 

[Microbeman]

killing Americans is against their rules. they are free to kill all of the Mexican citizens they want in Mexico. killing American citizens in Mexico can -really- fuck them up. that's why they gave up the poor bastards that (they claim) were the shooters. we'll never know. it's not like those guys are gonna confess or anything...well, they MIGHT. i understand that Mexican LEO has a different set of rules they go by than we use in the US.

Yup and there are a number of kiddie cartel members acting out on their own until put in their place. Lately these kids have been pulling Mexicans over; walking and driving; to search them. Some may take a peso or two but they are mostly just trying to flex their muscle and see if anyone is stealing or slinging dope in the neighborhood. If a senior cartel member sees this, they kick their ass. There really is a tough rule to leave tourists and gringos alone and generally working people are respected. Thieves are given no mercy.

A while back El Mencho's ma was upset that some priests and tourists had been killed and made him issue a decree (even on the Internet) that it was hands off those individuals. He is head of the Jalisco Cartel, supposedly the most powerful in Mexico now.

 

[Zeez]

On another similar note, the International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for Putin. This is someone who our previous president characterized as his friend, a very good man, and someone he trusted very much. The fact is that both of these men are criminals who's only interests are self serving.

 

[Microbeman]

When I checked I found ths was a rehashing of an old story where the lawsuit was dropped in 2016. The woman claiming she was raped by both Trump and his buddy Epstein,at several parties Epstein held in his private Mansion back in the mid 90;s whuch was when the victim was only 13. She didn't have the money to pay for the lawsuit herself and trued t fule it under a clause they had in California (where she fled the suit) that wouldn't charge people who didn't have the money if they met ceryain other conditions. Unfortunately that clause she was trying to use only applied to civil cases but she filed in criminal court the type of court case aside she didn't meet the other conditions What u;tomately gpt the case thrown out though was that she lied about where she lived by giving the address of an abandoned home that was vacant since the last owners died years vefore the girl filed the case. After the case was thrown out in California she did try to refile the charges in New York but at that point the crime was past ut's statute of limitations and was withdrawn not long after back in 2016.

The victim was one od several women who came forward when Trump first ran for President, all of them claiming one form of sexual assault of another.I could find no story about this case that was more recent then when it was withdrawn in 2016. Which makes it look suspiciously like someone is trying toincriminate Trump again with these old charges. It's kind of unfortunate that the victim trued to beat the system with who would pay for it since she had a witness (also a minor at the time) that was hired by Epstein to help him recruit underaged girls for his sex parties. She was willing to testify for the victim that she witnessed at least two of the four seperate rapes Trump was accused of doing to this girl, one of which also involved another underaged girl at the same time. The victim also had a friend that was willing to testify how the victim told her of the rapes back when they happened. Between her and the gorl saying she witnessed two of the rapes, she had a relatively strong case so it was unfortunate that it was able to be thrown out on a technicality.

If you know of a more current case of Trump being charged for that crime I would appreciate a link since I couldn't find it. In theory the victim should be able to refile even though it's passed it's statute of limitations based on the same law passed recently in New York that allows women a one time exception to refile for old cases since the crime alledgedly happened in New York she should be eligable. That's the same new law that let the other woman who claims Trump raped her in a dressing room (E. Jean Carroll) be able to refile even though her incident was also beyond the statute of limitations.

If any of these claims are true they should be heard in court as rape is a very serious crime that those who commit it don't just suddenly get over and stop doing As it is more about asserting power over someone then it is about the sexual aspect. If either of these rape claims are true there is no telling how many other victims are out there that never came forward because as was calimed by this one girl who was a minor, Trump threatened that if she tried to report him or bring it to court he would have her and her family killed. Obviously she didn't take that to heart but how many other might have kept quiet because they believed the threats?

I posted the court documents a long time ago. Good luck with the search. The story is that she withdrew 'mysteriously' after Trump's goons threatened her family.

 

[Microbeman]

i wouldn't go to Mexico these days for any reason.

thought you were comin fer a drink

 

[Microbeman]

I posted the court documents a long time ago. Good luck with the search. The story is that she withdrew 'mysteriously' after Trump's goons threatened her family.

All I can find off hand

Doe v. Trump, 1:16-cv-07673 - CourtListener.com

Docket for Doe v. Trump, 1:16-cv-07673 — Brought to you by the RECAP Initiative and Free Law Project, a non-profit dedicated to creating high quality open legal information.

www.courtlistener.com

Woman who alleged she was raped by Donald Trump DROPS case

'Katie Johnson's' shocking allegations first emerged in a bombshell lawsuit filed in California in April this year - but now it has been dropped, DailyMail.com has learned.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[armedoldhippy]

thought you were comin fer a drink

i've got good moonshine, tequila, and some Jack on hand, no need to get shot ... i'd LOVE to visit Mexico, but not these days.

 

[armedoldhippy]

It must be clear to most by now that the man has been cheating and stealing his entire life.

unfortunately, to many MAGA/GOPers, that means he is a sharp "businessman" instead of the POS thug that he really is.

 

[armedoldhippy]

On another similar note, the International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for Putin. This is someone who our previous president characterized as his friend, a very good man, and someone he trusted very much. The fact is that both of these men are criminals who's only interests are self serving.

be cool to see them sharing a cell. Chump would "mysteriously" die within days (maybe overnight), and no one would miss him.

 

[HempKat]

I posted the court documents a long time ago. Good luck with the search. The story is that she withdrew 'mysteriously' after Trump's goons threatened her family.

Yeah I suspect it's all the same story and it just got recycled again more recently to remind people how much of a sleazeball Trump really is. I say that because either when she filed in NY in 2016 or when she filed earlier in California but the case got thrown out because she tried to manipulate the system to avoid legal fees, she acknowledged that by filing the case she was potentially putting her's an her family's lives in danger. Since according to what I found that threat was made at the time the rape happened and was made by Trump himself. Which was supported by a witness she had which was the girl who recruited her to Epstein's parties.

 

[HempKat]

According to Donald Trump via Truth Social, Tuesday is the day he's "being arrested" and his telling his followers to Protest and take the nation back.

Okay I just checked more recent reporting of all this (more recent meaning since after I last posted about this) The consensus seems to be that this is all something Trump is making up specifically to get his base riled up for when it does happen. They're also saying a arrest is highly unlikely because as far as everyone knows there is at least one more witness to be heard by the Grand Jury on Monday and no arrests will happen until after the Grand Jury is done with witnesses and wraps things up which is unlikely to happen in just 24 hours if the Monday witness is the last witness.

There is one reporter who claims his source told him Trump has been pushing his legal team to come up with ways to rile up the base because Trump thinks that will help him politically. It would appear that Trump and his lawyers cooked up the Tuesday date based on the reporting that the Grand Jury inviting Trump to come testify is a sign the Grand Jury is wrapping things up. This has led other groups such as the NYPD and the Secret Serivce to begin to plan out exactly how a Trump arrest would go down. Adding to the confusion is the report from several days ago where Trump's lawyers announced that Trump would be surrendering himself to the authorities. So you have these various reports combining together to create a bunch of confusion in the media and then Trump makes his post yesterday on his Social Media site announcing when it will happen. What kind of gets overlooked from the post though is that Trump claimed the Manhatten DA leaked the arrest date to the media which Trump and his lackies say the intercepted and are trying to use that claim to help paint this as all being politically motivated on the DA's part because he's supposed to be giving that kind of information to Trump's legal team and not to the media. Since then all those reporting on this have been looking for evidence of the leaked information from the DA stating the arrest will be on Tuesday and yet nobody is finding anything even remotely like that accept for from Trump's Truth Social post claiming all this stuff.

I hope for the sake of Trump's supporters that they don't just accept all this stuff as gospel truth because if Trump succeeds at whipping his base into another frenzy, as it appears he's trying to do and that leads to another Jan. 6th like moment, they will find a very different reponse to that sort of thing in NY then they found in DC. In no small part because of what happened in DC. Accept this time around it's looking like a much sloppier, less coordinated event then what was arranged in DC. So if Trump pulls it off all he'll be managing to do is to sacrifice any loyal followers who show up to "Fight to take back their Country" and they'll likely run into a much deadlier force in the NYPD and become cannon fodder all so that Trump can say something like, "See I tried to warn you all that this would happen if you arrest me."

 

[armedoldhippy]

Chump uses his "loyal subjects" much as Putin throws his soldiers into the teeth of better armed and motivated fighters that are waiting for them. two of a kind, and deserving of the same treatment.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Okay I just checked more recent reporting of all this (more recent meaning since after I last posted about this) The consensus seems to be that this is all something Trump is making up specifically to get his base riled up for when it does happen. They're also saying a arrest is highly unlikely because as far as everyone knows there is at least one more witness to be heard by the Grand Jury on Monday and no arrests will happen until after the Grand Jury is done with witnesses and wraps things up which is unlikely to happen in just 24 hours if the Monday witness is the last witness.

There is one reporter who claims his source told him Trump has been pushing his legal team to come up with ways to rile up the base because Trump thinks that will help him politically. It would appear that Trump and his lawyers cooked up the Tuesday date based on the reporting that the Grand Jury inviting Trump to come testify is a sign the Grand Jury is wrapping things up. This has led other groups such as the NYPD and the Secret Serivce to begin to plan out exactly how a Trump arrest would go down. Adding to the confusion is the report from several days ago where Trump's lawyers announced that Trump would be surrendering himself to the authorities. So you have these various reports combining together to create a bunch of confusion in the media and then Trump makes his post yesterday on his Social Media site announcing when it will happen. What kind of gets overlooked from the post though is that Trump claimed the Manhatten DA leaked the arrest date to the media which Trump and his lackies say the intercepted and are trying to use that claim to help paint this as all being politically motivated on the DA's part because he's supposed to be giving that kind of information to Trump's legal team and not to the media. Since then all those reporting on this have been looking for evidence of the leaked information from the DA stating the arrest will be on Tuesday and yet nobody is finding anything even remotely like that accept for from Trump's Truth Social post claiming all this stuff.

I hope for the sake of Trump's supporters that they don't just accept all this stuff as gospel truth because if Trump succeeds at whipping his base into another frenzy, as it appears he's trying to do and that leads to another Jan. 6th like moment, they will find a very different reponse to that sort of thing in NY then they found in DC. In no small part because of what happened in DC. Accept this time around it's looking like a much sloppier, less coordinated event then what was arranged in DC. So if Trump pulls it off all he'll be managing to do is to sacrifice any loyal followers who show up to "Fight to take back their Country" and they'll likely run into a much deadlier force in the NYPD and become cannon fodder all so that Trump can say something like, "See I tried to warn you all that this would happen if you arrest me."

We all know he's not going to get perp walked. He’s gonna turn himself in at the Manhattan DA’s office, get processed, get his DAT and then he’ll leave. It’ll be over before anyone knows anything. He needs to make this look like an injustice while making things go as smoothly as possible on the legal end.

 

[unclefishstick]

i can't wait to see the "patriot moat" around tacky-lago...i'm expecting a yuuuuge fail

 

[armedoldhippy]

because Trump thinks that will help him politically.

well sure! i mean, it worked out so well for him and the "faithful" the first time.
the more of his supporters that go to jail, the larger the margin of victory for the Democrats in 2024.

 

[audiohi]

i can't wait to see the "patriot moat" around tacky-lago...i'm expecting a yuuuuge fail

it's smart of them to keep that shit in florida