By the way she's holding that cig,I'd say she's probably an anti-topper,you find out way too late.
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Twas a fine day among the oaktrees. Fixed a few machines and had to scrap a swather gearbox.
Took a few pics of the volunteer sour bubble and pulled some more males. Man some of them were huge too. Girls are going to make some nice big plants. Being from seed and not transplanting them makes a big difference on their size.
Blondy is doing a review on a new fishing reel and pole, and I got to test it out tonight. 6.6' medium light pole with a 1,000 series spinning reel with 6lb line. It did a great job reeling in this 4+lb bass. It made the drag sing a few times before I got it in. Plus a half dozen dink crappie. I could feel the lightest bite. A grate combo.
a perfect way to end the day.....
Took a few pics of the volunteer sour bubble and pulled some more males. Man some of them were huge too. Girls are going to make some nice big plants. Being from seed and not transplanting them makes a big difference on their size.
Blondy is doing a review on a new fishing reel and pole, and I got to test it out tonight. 6.6' medium light pole with a 1,000 series spinning reel with 6lb line. It did a great job reeling in this 4+lb bass. It made the drag sing a few times before I got it in. Plus a half dozen dink crappie. I could feel the lightest bite. A grate combo.
a perfect way to end the day.....
top , bottom , fun , Swedish , I don’t care
I’m more interested what sounds a little like espalier , boudoir
I meant plant anti- toppertop , bottom , fun , Swedish , I don’t care
I’m more interested what sounds a little like espalier , boudoir
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Goldhedge
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Something to consider...?The only downer lately is that Mrs Nirvana (Leah) has been getting dizzy spells - and has taken a whole course of meds for an ear infection - over the past 3 weeks - but still she's not feeling well - still feels dizzy and kinda weak - she tried to go do the gym today - but couldn't cope with the noise of the gym - so left without doing much - and she says that she tried to go back to work last week - but couldn't handle working in that very busy kitchen at the restaurant - so I dunno what to do to help her - she probably needs some scans for heart/brain to try and find the root of this problem -
Ménière's disease - Wikipedia
Interesting - I'll run it by the Mrs - and get her to ask the Doctor about it - thanks
for the link Goldhedge 
user2
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What is her diet like?
user2
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Anyway, some people wanted to see what low stress training is like instead of topping. I found an older pic, and I took one this morning. I'm not sure why this would be so hard to find in a search.
Yellow points to wire on main stem. Blue points to the main stems top area. You can see the plant reacts to the light now being thrown onto a sideways stem. New flowering sites grow upward from the nodes. Not "perfectly flat" but I didn't want perfectly flat. That would take more wires, and this result is good enough for me.
The yellow arrow points to the garden wire on the main stem, which is clamped to the edge of the grow nest. Move that main stem out into the very edge of the light, and let the exposed lower stems get the more intense light. No cutting necessary. This one has been ignored and no further training was done. Breaking apical dominance was good enough on this one for my situation. You could always fiddle around more and get it however you like. Flatter, wider. Using bending clips, more wires, it's all possible without cutting off a single bud site.
Yellow points to wire on main stem. Blue points to the main stems top area. You can see the plant reacts to the light now being thrown onto a sideways stem. New flowering sites grow upward from the nodes. Not "perfectly flat" but I didn't want perfectly flat. That would take more wires, and this result is good enough for me.
The yellow arrow points to the garden wire on the main stem, which is clamped to the edge of the grow nest. Move that main stem out into the very edge of the light, and let the exposed lower stems get the more intense light. No cutting necessary. This one has been ignored and no further training was done. Breaking apical dominance was good enough on this one for my situation. You could always fiddle around more and get it however you like. Flatter, wider. Using bending clips, more wires, it's all possible without cutting off a single bud site.
user2
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I can hear the next question. What are bending clips? Training clips. These little brown plastic things slip onto the stems to change its direction gently.
Here is another main stem with a wire. I have put a bending/training clip on it so it will now grow a little sideways, and the new growth from the sideways nodes will start to grow upward since it has more light exposure. if I did this on all the taller branches, the shorter branches would continue growing straight up making a more even canopy at the top.
This shape is more of what I want, sort of like a bouquet. I'm not trying to to a perfectly flat canopy or scrog. The choice is up to you, I'm just saying topping is not the only way. Plants I have topped produce less than others untopped so I just dont do it.
A bag of these clips is not very expensive. You can use them in multiple areas. Sometimes I use them to move fan leaves aside to let light and air into certain areas.
After terminal flowering you can release the wire. After the stems harden from the training clips, remove them and it stays bent.
Here is another main stem with a wire. I have put a bending/training clip on it so it will now grow a little sideways, and the new growth from the sideways nodes will start to grow upward since it has more light exposure. if I did this on all the taller branches, the shorter branches would continue growing straight up making a more even canopy at the top.
This shape is more of what I want, sort of like a bouquet. I'm not trying to to a perfectly flat canopy or scrog. The choice is up to you, I'm just saying topping is not the only way. Plants I have topped produce less than others untopped so I just dont do it.
A bag of these clips is not very expensive. You can use them in multiple areas. Sometimes I use them to move fan leaves aside to let light and air into certain areas.
After terminal flowering you can release the wire. After the stems harden from the training clips, remove them and it stays bent.
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cola
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The only downer lately is that Mrs Nirvana (Leah) has been getting dizzy spells - and has taken a whole course of meds for an ear infection - over the past 3 weeks - but still she's not feeling well - still feels dizzy and kinda weak - she tried to go do the gym today - but couldn't cope with the noise of the gym - so left without doing much - and she says that she tried to go back to work last week - but couldn't handle working in that very busy kitchen at the restaurant - so I dunno what to do to help her - she probably needs some scans for heart/brain to try and find the root of this problem -
Saddened to hear of Ms Nirvana's medical maladies. Must have been a not very good feeling to come home to. My first had the malady that I am going to post a link to. It was hard to diagnose & she ended up hospitalized for a bit.
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Meningitis Complications and Long-Term Effects
Meningitis has myriad long-term effects on various bodily systems that may occur if the infection is particularly severe or is not treated quickly.
Note To All --
Remember: @bigsur51 only has to walk past a place to have monster herb grow in his footprints. I have seen the pics of volunteer plants in the gutters around his spread. Johnny Fargin Herbalseed.
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Good morning venerable brothers and sisters of the sacred herb!
A gorgeous clear day here starting at 47F and predicted to reach 76F.
Breakfast out with Grayfox and NM at the Screen Door restaurant this morning and then I need to replace the photo switch that I keep putting off.
No contact from my cardiologist regarding my recent sleep test results. If I haven't heard from him by Monday, I will give him a call.
A gorgeous clear day here starting at 47F and predicted to reach 76F.
Breakfast out with Grayfox and NM at the Screen Door restaurant this morning and then I need to replace the photo switch that I keep putting off.
No contact from my cardiologist regarding my recent sleep test results. If I haven't heard from him by Monday, I will give him a call.
As the non-grower here, I haveta take my writer's pen up and point out that writing a book about something does not mean your knowledge of something cannot be written simply because some people knew about the book's subject long ago.
Using that logic, we should have no books on carving statuary, or historical events, or anything else already done.
Just sayin'. Go write a pamphlet for SAS readers.
Now you know how I feel when you guys discuss things like flipping and shit. I know flipping was 'splained to me... but I wonder if you turn the plant upside down and hold it in you hand to transfer it to a bigger pot?
And is that even flipping? Jeez. No. My packrat memory sez sumpin' about lights on and off. Oh well.
user2
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There should be articles out there already about low stress training. I would consider it "well known" and should be included as a mention in any growing guide. I just noticed plants I have topped produced less. They really dont like it. But each plant is unique. Maybe some like it. Mine just seemed depressed. With training they seem to do better, but I'm not scientific about it. Just look and make observations.
