Pure Energy ......

[foomar]

Day 53 and brittle fan leaf atachment means most have fallen off moveing them in a crowded room , most were pretty yellowed so no great loss and most of the remaining mites went with them , predators struggling to keep up in a heatwave.

Considerable variation in odour and fine detail but near identical in form and stretch , group shot and left to right from that.

The fast finishing slightly freaky one is showing some interesting traits , cute looking budlets low down developeing upturned frosted leaves with good trich coverage underneath.
This plant does not like high nutrient levels and the basic soil was a little too rich and has led to some leaf tip burning , the normal four look like they could handle a good dose.

 

[DoobieDuck]

Geez Foo..I'm glad I stopped in. The smile on my face just kept getting bigger and bigger as I scrolled down through the pix..nice job Bro..DD

 

[bloyd]

Beautiful plants foomar. I am really upset I missed these but so it goes. fjällhöga really seems to have great abilities when it comes to parent selection.

 

[foomar]

Thanks for the kind comments , cant really go wrong with fjällhöga,s work.

One of the freaks has turned out to be one of the best representations of a true hermaphrodite i have seen , guess most modern weed would end up like this if left to nature.

Some shoots are entirely male or female , some are a mixture and some alternateing along the stem.

Great fun.

 

[foomar]

Had to take the norms a week early at 65 days , mites resurged in persistant high temps and not wanting to use any chems on these took the tops and nuked whats left for a hoped for reveg on three from four.

Fast dried samples have good flavour and a very sharp high , yield on two is high and one is very close to a mentalist Venomhead clone still in the local loop.

One had a poor leaf to bud ratio , as it offered nothing special in any other respect was abandoned.

None of the normal four show any male structures on dissection , all but one of the mutants are intersexed to some degree but rewarding in their own way and of interest i hope , could have been easily culled in early veg by more sensible growers , no issues with normal plants and two real potential keepers.

Made some seed mainly on the spear type Blockhead expression for my own use with a normal male from the pack and the usual suspects , some fine traits here worth useing , those Blockhead males are showing their worth in everything fjällhöga has used them on so far and really looking forward to flowering the Jolly Bud.

 

[foomar]

This mutant leaved one remains stable , has a most evocative smell that i cannot place from childhood , maybe a perfume or suchlike.

Clone still looks normal and will run this again if the odour persists.

 

[unclefishstick]

loved the whole run foomar,cant wait to see whats in store with the jolly bud

 

[foomar]

Thanks Uncle , initial smoke suggests the Jolly Bud will have to be something special to top this cross , mentalist stuff.

As the promiseing freak nears the end there are male flower structures developeing on the higher buds all over , too risky unless it smokes incredibly well , a shame as the smell is distinctly different.

And shes really cute,

 

[fjällhöga]

well done foomar !
i hope you found something unique in Pure Energy , i would like to thank you very much for doing this picture perfect testing and i hope you want to continue that way

 

[foomar]

Thanks fjällhöga , was a shame i had to take them a little early but have never seen mites explode in population this fast before , odd scout to webs in a week and resistant to anything safe that late in.

Cuts of the best three have survived and will get some proper chop day pics next run , first samples are really good with a very clean high and a tart taste , there is a deeper flavour developeing which should come out with a short cure.

If it lasts that long.

 

[foomar]

Despite looking as if male flowers were about to burst out all over , it is still safe twelve days later and may yet finish properly , odd smell persists , cat responds strongly to it and she is a pretty good judge and eats the nicest smelling given the slightest chance.

If the clones run stable this is probably the highest yielding expression of the pack , would never have expected this given the way it vegged from seed.

Give the freaks a chance sometimes pays off.

 

[foomar]

With three weeks cure it smokes smooth and its fruity enougth to count as two of your five a day , favourite is lemon/chemical with a soaring high and a tongue tingleing aftertaste.

Short and sweet high for me and a nice flavour mix within the three , clones look to run 65 - 70 days and high yield trained and an interesting and rewarding grow.

Well worth a shot if available.

 

[foomar]

Both these pictures are from the same plant on adjacent stems , very different in all aspects , it will be interesting to see if they run true from clones taken from labelled branches.

 

[foomar]

Most growers would have culled this one early and missed a headstash special.

Normal half smells like a floral sour bubble , freaky half smells intensely sweet and almost sickley , a mate said it looked like two plants grafted together , quite odd and struggling to explain it.

Hope i left enougth for a reveg , late flower clones took well so should be OK.

 

[bloyd]

Very interesting.. Never seen pronounced differences on a single plant. Still kicking myself for missing these at auction woke up 5 minutes late. Will be interesting to see how the reveg turns out. Do you plan on taking clones from different parts of the plants and checking for differences?

 

[bloyd]

So I am reading a thread over at mrnice forums and come across this very knowledgeable post by a member there who I believe is also a member here talking about leaf mutation/crinkle/variagation in dj lines and he (AgD) mentions that mixoploidy is common in dj's line (what we are seeing with your pure energy plant?) and how this can be a positive thing (spectacular plants to be had in the krinkled mutants) He also speculates as to the cause of the mutation in dj's lines. Very interesting stuff.

Hello all,
Just a little heads up for anyone confused enough to believe that that the variegation and crinkle traits within Dj's blue lines are viral in origin, a few simple tests will set you straight. Go buy or borrow lab type microscope, mount leaf specimen underside up and look at the stomata openings in areas of the leaf with normal growth and then take a look at the stomata on areas of mutated tissue. Notice anything? Now go grab a book on plant genetics or advanced propagation and read up on chimeral variegation(no not the Chimera Virus from Resident Evil you silly stoners) and polyploidism. If you still aren't set straight on this issue now, there is just one more test to preform. Go get one of those awful diseased virus carrying DJ Short plants that you are scared of. Careful now, you don't want to catch this virulent disease yourself better be safe and put a bio-hazard suit on. Ok, now that you have taken the proper precautions grab the most twisted variegated diseased leaf you can find and squeeze the leaf petiole till a small drop of sap appears at the cut end. Now get one of your non DJ plants and wound the stem somewhere just a few inches down from the apical meristem, apply diseased plant sap to wound. There all done stand back and wait for your healthy plant to become twisted and variegated as the virus takes over, just don't hold your breath. I have spent well over 1000hrs of lab time removing viral pathogens from just about every member of the genus Brassica and a few other agricultural crops using just about every current technique known. I have also seen just about every viral, bacterial, or fungal pathogen of vascular plants that occurs in North America either in person or in technical manuals. I have also been playing with 8 of DJ Shorts seed lines for the past 9 years with well over two hundred of his seeds germinated and many many more that I have made from in-crosses and out-crosses of his lines. From my light dabbling in plant genetics and micro-propagation I am more inclined to form the hypothesis that DJ Shorts lines where at one point treated with a spindle toxin such as colchicine or oryzalin that allowed the production of polyploid tissue that is carried on through sexual propagation leading to offspring with differing amounts and types of polyploidism(this is called a mixoploid look it up!) within the same plant specimen. DJ even states that this is what he believes may have happened(minus the mixoploid part that's all me). While this can lead to a number of terminal genetic flaws such as sterility and growth retardation, it can also lead to increased aromatic compounds, stronger cell walls and many other desirable traits. It's up to you to make the selections you find appealing! For real fun and excitement take a cutting from each branch of your favorite mutant Blueberry, Flo, Vanilluna, OTM or whichever one you are lucky enough to have that show a different expressions and flower them out and be amazed by the diversity you can find in just one seed! Now you can decide whether to believe kylebroflovski's conjecture, my technical blather, or you can wake up and start making your own hypothesis about what the world is doing around you. So I hope you all enjoyed my first post. DJ if you read this hope to see ya again soon, and I won't forget about the veggie seeds I promised to bring you! AgD

 

[foomar]

Both these pictures are from the same plant on adjacent stems , very different in all aspects , it will be interesting to see if they run true from clones taken from labelled branches.

Hi Bloyd , the cuts have rooted and started to reveg , no intersex traits expressed so far or in flower , looked very dodgy though by the end and would have by harvest +14.

Thats a fascinating quote there , have seen many freaks in Blueberry originals and crosses over the years and grown out most of them unless awfull , male and female , and most end well and are often keepers despite vegging issues.
Very few male freaks and they were less pronounced in visible traits.

I dont buy into the virus theory , have tried to deliberately infect clean plants as described in the quote with zero results , cucumber mosaic virus in the greenhouse was easily transferred to canna by simply rubbing leaves together.
I have never seen a single case of transfer despite everything touching in veg and flower , reckon if you get a virus it probably came from a garden centre or suchlike and is not TMV at all.

I was told this Blueberry was virused by some god like members , cannot be transferred to other plants however , definately genetic and the clones ran true , unfortunately it would not flower under any light schedule and became a curiosity rather than a seedline , seed made on stem preflowers was sterile so also a lethal mutation in this case.

 

[danny karey]

Another Kick f'n ass Foomar thread!!! Dude, you never dissapoint!!

Love all the detail with descriptions and pics, top knotch as usual!!

Great job to mountain high as well, looks like another amazing cross!

Keep up the good work guys, very inspiring!

Danny

 

[fjällhöga]

Another Kick f'n ass Foomar thread!!! Dude, you never dissapoint!!

exactly what he said

thx alot danny nice to see you here !

 

[FIREofKALI]

killer cross, i bet its some unique smoke...killer work foomar!