PA sucks

[We Wait]

PA finally gets MMJ 20 years after CA passes their MMJ laws but it has totally different MMJ laws devised. For 5 years the previous Governor stalled deliberately for this only to happen. When the new Governor came to power we finally got a MMJ law on track. Big, pharma,private,prison and politicians interfered with the bill and stalled it for 10 months because it was hijacked and twisted by lobbyist and politicians for their own agenda until they were happy with it and it benefited them the most.


Why was Medical Marijuana Use Approved in Pennsylvania?

Money! Instead of giving us freedoms and releasing all the people in jail and dropping all the bullshit, they instead find a way to screw us even more.

Dollar signs are in their cold eyes and they have finally figured out a way to monopolize the same industry just not to long ago where entirely against and now only want it all for themselves and the state and they will own the market after waging a war against the pot head/hippie for almost 80 years now.

Big Pharma convinced all the politicians and lawmakers and lobbied for it in their best interest while keeping the old laws the same and basically really changing nothing that was truly needed for the people while acting like they are doing something great. Private Prison and big pharma both get everything they want.

When will the Medical Marijuana Program be Implemented in Pennsylvania?

After they have started to mass produce possibly chemical grown GMO only owned by them marijuana by stealing genetics and reworking them until they are vaping their legal version of it and only their version will ever be legal, everyone else goes to jail like before and nothing changes pretty much.

Who will be Able to Access Medical Marijuana?

Sick people who they are planning to take advantage of and make a ton of money off of course.

I would not qualify for anything currently listed but would I really want to. You can't grow it and are forced into some buy our GMO vapor capsule gimmicks that works in only our vaporizer gimmick. This is not like California where anybody can get a card on the fly for 50 bucks. It's much more difficult on the East coast which is stupid to begin with. The whole MMJ argument is absurd to begin with, it was really originally thought off as a tool to stop arresting us. Not something to be used against us later on down the road.

We are basically buying a 200.00 card to not be harassed by police while conning us into buying their overpriced crap. Those who can't afford a card or don't qualify still go to jail and why would we want a card to begin with, those who want to grow can't grow their own and have to buy their crap. This MMJ program is a scam when it does not allow smoking or home growing and it's really obvious.

What is the Process for Patients to Qualify for Medical Marijuana?
Why all the hoops to jump through? Sounds very controlling and unneeded.

How will Patients Apply for Medical Marijuana Identification Cards?

I do no think they will make it easy to get a card as ever possible, more like the opposite.

Where will Patients Obtain Medical Marijuana?

These 150 dispensaries are illegally owned. The state has created a state sanctioned monopoly on the plant of God. They have wronged all of us for a long time and now refuse to do what is right and instead of granting us all freedoms, they have found a way to capitalize on it. The rich get richer off cannabis because of there 80 years of prohibition waged upon us which set them up for it now,leaving us in financial shambles.

When will the Department begin Issuing Regulations for the Program?

The department has started working on temporary regulations in order to meet the 6-month publishing requirement under the statute and will be meeting with stakeholder groups, medical professionals and consumer groups to develop the application process for patients and caregivers to access medical marijuana.

Who will assist the Department in Making Changes to the Medical Marijuana Program in Pennsylvania?

The new law creates the Medical Marijuana Advisory Board within the Department of Health. Members include the Secretary of Health; the Physician General; State Police Commissioner; Chair of the State Board of Pharmacy; Commissioner of Professional & Occupational Affairs; President of the Pennsylvania Chiefs of Police Association; President of the Pennsylvania District Attorneys Association; members to be appointed by the Governor and the four legislative caucuses who are knowledgeable and experienced in issues relating to care and treatment of individuals with a serious medical condition, geriatric or pediatric or clinical research. One member appointed by the Governor shall be a patient, a family or household member of a patient or a patient advocate.

All the above professions are involved why? What's really screwed up is the people above mentioned are the ones who need professional help. Waging a war upon it's own citizens like this for so long over the cannabis plant and then now stealing it. They are the one's who need assigned counselors for help for doing this and continuing to.

An amendment by Rep. John Lawrence, R-Chester, forbids state public officials and employees (lawmakers, the governor, judges and cabinet secretaries, among others) from having a financial stake in a licensed medical marijuana organization. The prohibition also is leveled against their immediate family members as defined under the state Ethics Act.

When you compare the 2 above paragraphs together you can see many contradictions. These corrupt people should not be writing laws pertaining to this issue or have anything at all to do with marijuana in any way at all after what they have done all these years. They in fact should come on tv and publicly make a statement to drop all the bullshit and grant us our freedoms back.
They are in clear violation of their own new laws that they have wrote above and of course they are because as everyone can see they are all associated with the filthy false cold beast court system that they have set up and call the PA justice and probation system. They where supposed to do the right thing and remove prohibition in all current old age forms against the cannabis plant and people but instead they have now choose to weed out and jail all illegal growers in competition through law enforcement(what's new) who really where never illegal growers and smokers to begin with while setting up these fake shops. Sickening.

What else will the Medical Marijuana Program do for Pennsylvania?

Sounds more like what else can it do for the local PD and our politician and lobbyist buddies. When you read the paragraph included, I mean it can't get any more obvious.

How can Pennsylvania Make Medical Marijuana Legal when it is not approved by the Federal Government?

The federal government cannot force states to criminalize conduct that is illegal under federal law, nor can the federal government force state and local police to enforce federal laws.There are no known cases in any of the 23 states that have authorized the use of medical marijuana of the federal government prosecuting an individual for a small amount of marijuana.

But that is exactly what the Fed's have done for the last 80 years and continue to force. That last sentence is a lie also and this is not legal medical marijuana. This capitalization by big pharma and private prison.
So if it is not the Feds doing it anymore(arresting us) it is now the my own State behind it doing and continuing this un needlessly. In fact it's truly always been the state as much as it was the Feds and are both guilty as charged.

I have lived in PA my whole life. PA should be ashamed of themselves but they are not because they really just suck and not just the cops. They have been waging a war on me and others my whole life. They took everything from me and many others to and now they want to act like nothing ever happened and they did nothing wrong while capitalizing upon it, not even giving everyone one apology let alone giving me my business back or freedom.

http://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/l...ania-dispensary-regulations-drafted/92884158/

The release marks another step toward implementing Act 16, establishing a comprehensive medical marijuana program in Pennsylvania.

The department said it is still on track with its initial goal of having medical marijuana available to qualified patients in the state 18 to 24 months after Gov. Tom Wolf signed the bill into law in April.

The temporary regulations, which are open for public feedback until Friday, Nov. 4, outline plans for, among other things, an electronic tracking system, security and staffing for dispensaries in the state.

Some tidbits from the regulations:

A dispensary can't give a patient or caregiver more than a 30-day supply of medical marijuana until the patient has exhausted all but a seven-day supply.
A licensed practitioner or pharmacist must be present at the dispensary during all operating hours, but they may not treat or certify a patient on site.
A dispensary may not be within 1,000 feet of a school or day care center, at the same site as a grower/processor facility, inside the same building as a retail business or in the same space as another practitioner or physician.
A dispensary can't advertise or provide medical marijuana for free, as part of a promotional giveaway or coupon program.
Labels for packaged medical marijuana may not contain "any cartoon, color scheme, image, graphic or feature that might make the package attractive to children."
A dispensary must have a comprehensive security and surveillance system and record all visits in and out of rooms containing medical marijuana.
Vehicles permitted to transport medical marijuana can't have any markings that would indicate they are being used to transport medical marijuana, nor may delivery team members wear any clothing or symbols that indicate they may possess the substance.
All dispensaries must use the same electronic tracking system chosen by the department.

Jodie Schaefer, owner of a vape shop and tobacco shop in Doylestown, has been working with a team of six in anticipation of submitting an application for a dispensary license when they become available.

She said the temporary regulations are about what her team expected, based on their research into other states' regulations, and she likes the department's plan for a standardized electronic tracking system.
Jodie Schafer, a vape shop owner in Doylestown, listensBuy Photo

(Photo: The York Dispatch)

Chris Goldstein, spokesman for cannabis advocacy group Philly NORML, said the requirements for so much security seemed "a little bizarre."

Schaefer agreed that the security requirements might be a little excessive, but she trusts the department.

"It's going to be more costly, but it will make sure patients are safe," she said.

Goldstein praised the department for its expedience during the process thus far, but he said the law itself makes him wonder whether patient's access to the medicine is the priority.

YORK DISPATCH

BLOG: State speeding up grower process

Unlike other states with medical marijuana programs, Pennsylvania's proposed regulations don't require applicants to reside in the state, allow corporations or publicly traded companies to apply and allow owners of the licenses to transfer them for profit, much like liquor licenses, Goldstein said.

All these regulations are subject to change before full implementation, but Goldstein said it appears Pennsylvania is more intent right now on creating an industry than serving a patient population.

"Every person or corporation looking to get into this industry needs to be asked how much they're planning to charge patients," he said, pointing out that insurance doesn't cover the purchase of medical marijuana.

Schaefer said it's still too early to determine pricing but, like Goldstein, she's worried large corporations could be allowed to enter the cannabis industry in Pennsylvania.

She said she doesn't foresee that happening for several years, though, because the department has shown its focus is on patient advocacy.

Schaefer pointed out that the department has approved 103 Safe Harbor applications, which allow parents of children with qualifying conditions to legally transport medical marijuana from another state back to Pennsylvania.

 

[rolandomota]

Maine mass. and dc for the win in the east just move to one of these places i know its easy to say and hard to do but thats what you should do. Your just a few hours away from freedom

 

[We Wait]

rolandmata: You avoided just about my entire reply to just to give me some crappy advice. GTFOH!

They are the one's who need to move, off the planet that is.

 

[cryptop]

I agree for the most part, the original SB3 was fantastic.... unlimited grow+extractor+dispensary licenses that were $5k/each, long list of conditions, no specifications on products (flower vs extract etc), no restrictions on outdoor.


If you carefully read through the small bits of news released about the program, check out the companies who have ALREADY said they're getting licenses and have started building their million dollar facilities from the ground up.... funny how that works out, as license APPLICATIONS don't even start until february.

But overall, why would you expect anything else than this in PA lol? It's the most bureaucratic, incompetent state for just about any type of regulation. Not surprising that the only small business owners who will be able to find a niche in PA are the dab rig salesmen who blatantly sell slabs from rec states.

 

[We Wait]

I agree for the most part, the original SB3 was fantastic.... unlimited grow+extractor+dispensary licenses that were $5k/each, long list of conditions, no specifications on products (flower vs extract etc), no restrictions on outdoor.


If you carefully read through the small bits of news released about the program, check out the companies who have ALREADY said they're getting licenses and have started building their million dollar facilities from the ground up.... funny how that works out, as license APPLICATIONS don't even start until february.

But overall, why would you expect anything else than this in PA lol? It's the most bureaucratic, incompetent state for just about any type of regulation. Not surprising that the only small business owners who will be able to find a niche in PA are the dab rig salesmen who blatantly sell slabs from rec states.

Yea, well they can all go suck it and so can you.

 

[BakedBandit]

You sure sound like a whiny little kid that sucks, and sounds like you are committed to staying in the perfect sucky state for you. Maybe try to fix your typing. Your ranting posts will be much more readable, sort of.

 

[cryptop]

Yea, well they can all go suck it and so can you.

So what's your plan to improve the PA market?

 

[Chunkypigs]

So what's your plan to improve the PA market?

who care's? the PA market seems pretty dope already...

In late October, lines to get into one Philadelphia cannabis party stretched around the block.

Two thousand people bought tickets to the sold out event, according to an event organizer who asked to remain anonymous because of the underground nature of the business. Inside, table after table was laden with every conceivable marijuana product, from e-pens to extracts to edibles. Smoking was encouraged.
These kinds of events have more in common with a visit to Reading Terminal Market than to your local drug dealer.
“We’re very passionate here about weed,” says Mark Prinzinger, founder of Highjinx, Philadelphia’s first marijuana marketing company.
Within the past six months, the local cannabis economy has blown up. New businesses are sprouting to meet a huge need, with or without legal clearance. It’s at once underground and above board, as befits the emerging vertical. With medical or recreational laws now on the books in 28 states, the U.S. is on the brink of a major economic shift. The country’s pot purveyors and consumers are caught in a gray area between city, state and federal laws. Pennsylvania’s Medical Marijuana Program became law this past April. The flowers and leaves of the plant will not be for legal sale in the state, and products must be processed into pills, oil, tincture, liquid and topical forms.
As it stands now, only 3 parcels of land in Philadelphia meet all qualifications for Pennsylvania dispensaries. Frank Ianuzzi, legislative director for Councilman Derek Green, says local lawmakers are working on getting exceptions for the city to allow for 10,000 possible parcels.
That’s why, for most of these businesses, you can’t search Google for locations and other identifying information. But there are plenty of pictures if you know the right hashtags. Check out AutoHDFilms’ Instagram account, run by photographer Christian Velasquez, a cannabis activist and unofficial documentarian of the movement.
“The most dangerous part about cannabis is being caught with it. That’s what really fuels my activism,” says Velasquez. “I want to show that people who smoke weed are good, peaceful, kind people. I want to end all the stigma.”
All the edibles

If you’re looking for weed-infused foie gras, chef David Ansill, who ran several of his own fine dining restaurants and has cooked at many others (most recently at Washington Square West’s Pinefish), has created Pot Luck. The monthly dinner runs $100 a person. Here’s a peek:
On the other end of the spectrum, you can, of course, get medicated cheesesteaks here in Philadelphia. Buy them from the chefs at Inphused Philly for a few dollars more than your standard wiz wit. New customers are referral only. The owner, who requested anonymity, delivers medicated candies and lollipops free of charge to people with MS and other chronic illnesses.
“The stoners pay the bills,” the owner said. “I can’t take a dollar from a sick person.”
Then there’s Bakt Guds, which has been operating out of a secret location since summer 2016. It all started last year when the founder hosted a medicated birthday party, and friends wanted more.

Weed parties that are 'swanky, not sketchy.'​

According to the founder (who also asked for anonymity), he and his wife began baking regularly, and just about any Friday night, you can find the Get Bakt Crew in a chill spot decorated with twinkling lights. Bakt Guds supports the founder’s family of four. A first generation college grad, the African-American owner initially considered Bakt Guds a side business, but he’s been able to quit his 9-to-5 job altogether and focus on the enterprise full time.
The first event drew 15 people and now about 40 to 75 show up every week.
“We cater to a group of Black professionals,” he says. His demographic is people with kids who need to find an alternative to smoking. “We are doing it in a swanky way that’s pretty appealing. It’s not sketchy.”
Businesses meet and combine efforts. Inphused Philly teamed up with Bakt Guds over the summer and each increased its customer base. Both look forward to opening brick and mortar locations.
‘Not just stoners’

Highjinx markets all things weed, but no customers are in Philadelphia yet. Prinzinger says he works with companies in legalized states such as Colorado, Oregon and California. “We didn’t initially target cannabis companies, but because of the work we do, a bunch of cannabis companies came to us.” Founded in June 2016, Highjinx now employs 18 at its Eraserhood location, with plans to expand exponentially. He envisions 100 employees by next year.

Mark Prinzinger, weed marketer. (Courtesy photo)

A recent posting for a Highjinx art director position garnered 4,000 resumes, according to Prinzinger. “A lot of people have the misconception that we are just stoners. Realistically speaking, that’s not what we do. Everyone here enjoys cannabis. But you won’t see us hotboxing in the bathroom,” says Prinzinger, who operates within a strict set of guidelines.
Its guerilla marketing strategy has led to connections with “literally hundreds of celebrities,” according to Prinzinger. Rap stars like Gucci Mane, MGK and The Game are paid to boost a product on Snapchat and at live appearances.
When asked about standard digital marketing practices like AdWords, SEO and Instagram, Prinzinger just laughs. “We want to be three years ahead of everyone else.” Some of Highjinx’s clients don’t even have websites.
Incubating the industry

As the culture (and the law) shifts in favor of marijuana, there’s some serious money to be made, in ways you might not consider. For example, Greenhouse Ventures currently mentors three fledgling companies. The Philly-based incubator was founded by Tyler Dautrich and Kevin Provost, backed by advisors like Lindy Snider, daughter of Flyers owner Ed Snider, and David Dinenberg of cannabis company financing firm KIND Financial (also backed by Lindy Snider). Greenhouse takes an average of 5 percent common stock equity from accelerator members and doesn’t invest in its companies. One graduate is the Releaf App, a D.C.-based company that tracks the effects of medical marijuana.
Greenhouse isn’t about the lifestyle. It is a pure economics play. If you’ve witnessed the pent up need in the marketplace, you don’t have to seek out stats to justify an investment in the cannabis industry. But in case you’re wondering, Arcview’s State of Legal Marijuana Markets 2016 report projects the industry to grow to $7.1 billion by the end of 2016, a 26 percent increase over 2015.
Dautrich, Provost and team support companies with ancillary ties to the industry. On Friday, Dec. 9, Greenhouse hosted its second Innovation in the Cannabis Industry conference of 2016. The first, in April during Philly Tech Week, sold out. Tickets were $250 each.
Not a crime but not quite legal

Dautrich loves Philadelphia’s strong cannabis activist community. It has the effect, he says, of equalizing and normalizing the business of marijuana.
In 2014, then-Councilman (now Mayor) Jim Kenney was instrumental in decriminalizing marijuana in Philadelphia, making it the largest city in America to do so. Now, possession garners a $25 ticket, and if you’re caught smoking, it’s $100.
According to those in the cannabis activism community, the cops don’t see handing out pot tickets as a worthwhile activity. The Philadelphia Police did not respond to a request for an interview.
Across the U.S., punishment for marijuana possession, sale and use falls disproportionately to the African American community. If you’re a convicted felon, you are barred from operating a legitimate cannabis business once pot becomes legal. A Black man who went to jail for dealing pot cannot operate a dispensary. Legalization turns out to have racial overtones. That has seemed to translate to a pretty white group of entrepreneurs.
By contrast, Philadelphia’s underground cannabis community is diverse, according to N.A. Poe, the activist who helped, along with Chris Goldstein of PhillyNORML, to push decriminalization through.
In search of ‘real cannabis freedom’

Poe (a pseudonym) is well known in activist circles. He was instrumental in the Occupy Philly effort and his march on City Hall during the DNC featured a 51-foot-long joint. He co-hosted a “pop-up weed garden” in October on the Art Museum steps.
“We are using that gray area of decriminalization to create our own structure without asking the government for permission. We call Philly ‘the cannabis experiment,'” says Poe.
Poe contends that corporate and government players can try to run parallel with the thriving underground market, but they’ll have to catch up. “What are they doing for people in the meantime? We are helping people.”

Poe: “We call Philly ‘the cannabis experiment.'” (Courtesy photo)

The Delaware Valley’s poster child for medical marijuana is Tuffy, a nine-year-old girl whose epilepsy symptoms have virtually disappeared through the use of medical marijuana. Poe seeks money on her behalf through a GoFundMe campaign that’s raised nearly $4,000.
Poe imagines that in the next year, medical marijuana won’t be as accessible or affordable as corporate entities and the government promise. “The underground economy, the cannabis community, will dictate terms,” says Poe. “We’re seeking real cannabis freedom, not a 5 to 7 million dollar project to sell sick people cannabis pills. We have to do what’s best for our community.”
As an activist and leader, Poe considers underground gatherings a way to entice people into political action. “Our patients need medical marijuana. Once the regulations come in and people aren’t getting what they need, we can call on the thousands of people who have been to the parties to come to City Hall.”
To move the conversation forward, the first step is to speak openly. After years of secretive, back alley use, cannabis is suddenly mainstream. Poe draws comparisons to the LGBT movement.
“We’ve established ourselves as personalities,” he says.” That gives us a face, and we make it clear that we’re not going anywhere.” Normalization, says Poe, starts with socialization.

 

[We Wait]

You sure sound like a whiny little kid that sucks, and sounds like you are committed to staying in the perfect sucky state for you. Maybe try to fix your typing. Your ranting posts will be much more readable, sort of.

If you would take the time to read my first post, you would see that this is far from the case and that I am not just some whiny little kid who sucks. The fact is, it is you, the oppressors, persecutors and thieves who suck and the ones who point fingers at me and accuse who suck. The entire USA has been givin an ample amount of time to change their ways, so be it.

I am here to preach the destruction against the 3 cities of PA and the rest of the USA. In the day that no man noweth, these 3 cities shall fall.

 

[~star~crash~]

If you would take the time to read my first post, you would see that this is far from the case and that I am not just some whiny little kid who sucks. The fact is, it is you, the oppressors, persecutors and thieves who suck and the ones who point fingers at me and accuse who suck. The entire USA has been givin an ample amount of time to change their ways, so be it.

I am here to preach the destruction against the 3 cities of PA and the rest of the USA. In the day that no man noweth, these 3 cities shall fall.

you are clearly out of your mind...please seek help

peace 2 u...

 

[We Wait]

you are clearly out of your mind...please seek help

peace 2 u...

Merry Christmas to you also.

 

[soserthc1]

@chuckypigs solid post above ^^^^^

 

[BakedBandit]

Haha, yeah , what a wack job. Hope that guy don't have guns! His only response to anyone is that they suck, pretty funny actually. I enjoy flipping the script on douchebags like him.

 

[BakedBandit]

I did waste my time reading your whole ramblings ranting bullshit post. Found it to be repetitive and annoying to read with all the poor typing. Also, very whiny. The worst was your responses to the first two other posters. What an awesome guy you are! Cry on brother! Nobody's gonna feel sorry for a loser like you that is just spitting venom at everybody for no reason.

 

[I wood]

Or just discretely grow your own.

 

[TheFuzz]

Pa does suck. Its one of the top 5 corrupt state in the union. They are doing this mostly for personal gain..make money off the terminally ill while still locking up people like us but I do agree..guys a whack job.. Pa sucks.. You...you and you suck hahaha