Thanks, Wonderful garden 40DS. thanks for sharing.Hey everyone,
here’s a few for you Tommy Tucker
fantastic Side. Iots of work keeping those girls in check. I’ve tried to grow sativas here but with no luck, the Golden Tiger from Ace, in particular. The Malowie leaners didn’t do too bad and finished in June, the first month of winter here. The Thai leaners never finished and I was hoping they might go all the way through winter and finish up the following year but that didn’t happen despite the best micro climate they could of possibly have been in.
Anyway I’m looking forward to following along with your season and hoping the very best for you. View attachment 19130397 View attachment 19130392
Both these plants are 1.5 meters tall, or five feet, they’ve grown one foot, 300mm in a week The other single leader plants have too and are now all around 1.1-1.2 meters. The second plant is the one l cleaned out last week and I thought id do a side by side experiment to see if the one l don’t clean out grows bigger and healthier because it has no wound sites and more leaf surface area for foliar feedings.
The triple leader plants are also doing well and are all around a meter tall and starting to be pulled through the support cage. I like the way they’re growing into a uniform structure and not to big. View attachment 19130393 View attachment 19130396 Here’s another picture of a tri-leader behind the volunteer plant. I’m estimating her at 1.6 meters. It’s a bit harder to give an exact height because she’s not caged; the weld mesh is 100x100mm, or four by four inches. View attachment 19130398 And another experiment into multiple planting for maximum production. Leaning the cages over in an attempt to maximise bud sites, airflow and sun. View attachment 19130400 Cheers,
40.
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40degsouth
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Side,
I meant to ask what the names of the strains you’re growing are?? Any South African landraces in the mix.
I meant to ask what the names of the strains you’re growing are?? Any South African landraces in the mix.
I have always grown donated, collected or bag seeds Sativa's over the years, last year I tried some feminised seeds from 2 x well known seed banks. To say I ran into issues I have never run into before is an under statement. I had mould, powdery mildew and serious worm issues, it was just an overall disappointing grow. So Im back to growing from my old collection of seeds that I have acquired over years. I have no idea what Sativa surprises I'm in for. I plant a bunch then cull all the males and Indica leaning seedlings, choose the best looking 8 plants (that's what's legal to grow here) and run from there. Last year being the exception most years I get a least 2 incredible surprises. Some pics of the girls showing promise.
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Happy Tuesday all.......
1st pic is of an Angulate tortoise, it is endemic to southern Africa they are very territorial this chap has been living in my garden for about 15 years. If another male comes off the mountain and enters 'his" property the fight is on. Their fight consists of slamming into each other, the aim being to tip your opponent over on his back, you can hear the noise of their shells colliding from a fair distance.
2nd pic is of a Juvenile Cape cobra who thought my garden was the perfect place to live, but unfortunately he had to be relocated as my dogs don't like snakes. Took me 15 days to catch him humanely, here he is in a 5gal bucket ready for relocation. He is really pissed off as they will only display their hoods when threatened or angry.
I must say both of these animals are in prime condition.
1st pic is of an Angulate tortoise, it is endemic to southern Africa they are very territorial this chap has been living in my garden for about 15 years. If another male comes off the mountain and enters 'his" property the fight is on. Their fight consists of slamming into each other, the aim being to tip your opponent over on his back, you can hear the noise of their shells colliding from a fair distance.
2nd pic is of a Juvenile Cape cobra who thought my garden was the perfect place to live, but unfortunately he had to be relocated as my dogs don't like snakes. Took me 15 days to catch him humanely, here he is in a 5gal bucket ready for relocation. He is really pissed off as they will only display their hoods when threatened or angry.
I must say both of these animals are in prime condition.
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40degsouth
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I’ve always wanted a tortoise Side, ever since I was a little boy. In particular the Giant Galapagos Tortoise but I would of been happy with one of those little yellow and black Asian ones too
The plants have only grown 100mm since the last update but they’ve definitely grown a lot wider. They’ve all decided to put their energies into lateral development which l find interesting. I was hoping that I could push some of them to 2 meters tall before stretch which is about four weeks away now.
To give you all a bit of an idea the seed plant this cut came from was about seven feet tall and ten feet wide, so I’d like to see her like that again.
Here’s one of the bigger ones 1.6 meters tall.
We had a bit of a thunder storm last night with some wind. The only plant to lean over was the phosphorus deficient plant.She’s back upright now and almost ready to start pulling through the support cage.
And the volunteer plant. This one’s close to six feet now. I might have to pull this one over to allow light into the plant behind it.
And the bud rot caterpillars have shown up; it won’t be long until l start adding BT to the foliar mixes.
Cheers,
40.
The plants have only grown 100mm since the last update but they’ve definitely grown a lot wider. They’ve all decided to put their energies into lateral development which l find interesting. I was hoping that I could push some of them to 2 meters tall before stretch which is about four weeks away now.
To give you all a bit of an idea the seed plant this cut came from was about seven feet tall and ten feet wide, so I’d like to see her like that again.
Here’s one of the bigger ones 1.6 meters tall.
Cheers,
40.
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40dS, Wonderfull pictures of your plants, thanks for sharing. Yes as kids we all had or wanted a tortoise. But with education and hindsight we now know having a reptile as a pet in a glass tank or cage is tantamount to keeping an animal in solitary confinement.I’ve always wanted a tortoise Side, ever since I was a little boy. In particular the Giant Galapagos Tortoise but I would of been happy with one of those little yellow and black Asian ones too
The plants have only grown 100mm since the last update but they’ve definitely grown a lot wider. They’ve all decided to put their energies into lateral development which l find interesting. I was hoping that I could push some of them to 2 meters tall before stretch which is about four weeks away now.
To give you all a bit of an idea the seed plant this cut came from was about seven feet tall and ten feet wide, so I’d like to see her like that again.
Here’s one of the bigger ones 1.6 meters tall. View attachment 19133261 We had a bit of a thunder storm last night with some wind. The only plant to lean over was the phosphorus deficient plant.She’s back upright now and almost ready to start pulling through the support cage. View attachment 19133262 And the volunteer plant. This one’s close to six feet now. I might have to pull this one over to allow light into the plant behind it. View attachment 19133263 And the bud rot caterpillars have shown up; it won’t be long until l start adding BT to the foliar mixes.
Cheers,
40.
Maroc Marko
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Hello, I'm new to this forum. Last year I grew quite a number of autoflowering and photoperiod plants outdoor, following the new cannabis law in Germany. I have experience in guerilla growing in the lowlands (ClShα climate here) from about twenty years ago, so when I started growing again I used two gardens and four guerilla spots to acommodate all the plants, trying to see more clearly in this jungle of varieties in the webshops. See some of my photoperiod plants from 2024:
40degsouth
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Hey everyone, hope you’re all well.
Yeah Side, l do like my animals wild. I didn’t really understand just how effected animals can be by confinement until some friends rescued a sulphur crested cockatoo from a deceased estate, that had been in a cage for decades. This bird was scared of heights and couldn’t fly, so would hop along the ground to get around and every time I’d turn up would come hopping along and screeching with joy and of course I’d have to pick It up and put it on my shoulder.
They didn’t know what gender it was, at first and so called it George but when I turned up it fell in love with me and just wanted to be near me all the time.
Every time, after I’d leave, the bird would lay an egg so George had to be renamed Gladis it was a big shock for everyone the first time and a really special connection.
Nice plants Maroc Marco, looking forward to seeing some more of your pictures.
The plants haven’t grown much taller over the past five days but have grown wider and I’ve noticed the laterals are becoming solid, rather than hollow. I’ve been pulling laterals through the cage and you might notice they are becoming wider.
First picture is of the deficient plant that has bounced back but still not as wide as her sister’s. She’s still one of the tallest in the garden however.
Next is of the volunteer plant next to its tri-leader mother. This plant is so close to 2 meters tall l may as well just call it that. I haven’t pulled it over and probably won’t now, we’ll just see how tall it can get.
And another of the tri-leaders starting to get wider.
One of the big girls, she’s 1.6 meters tall.
Cheers 40.
Yeah Side, l do like my animals wild. I didn’t really understand just how effected animals can be by confinement until some friends rescued a sulphur crested cockatoo from a deceased estate, that had been in a cage for decades. This bird was scared of heights and couldn’t fly, so would hop along the ground to get around and every time I’d turn up would come hopping along and screeching with joy and of course I’d have to pick It up and put it on my shoulder.
They didn’t know what gender it was, at first and so called it George but when I turned up it fell in love with me and just wanted to be near me all the time.
Every time, after I’d leave, the bird would lay an egg so George had to be renamed Gladis it was a big shock for everyone the first time and a really special connection.
Nice plants Maroc Marco, looking forward to seeing some more of your pictures.
The plants haven’t grown much taller over the past five days but have grown wider and I’ve noticed the laterals are becoming solid, rather than hollow. I’ve been pulling laterals through the cage and you might notice they are becoming wider.
First picture is of the deficient plant that has bounced back but still not as wide as her sister’s. She’s still one of the tallest in the garden however.
Next is of the volunteer plant next to its tri-leader mother. This plant is so close to 2 meters tall l may as well just call it that. I haven’t pulled it over and probably won’t now, we’ll just see how tall it can get.
One of the big girls, she’s 1.6 meters tall.
Cheers 40.
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Happy Wednesday all.
40DS Wonderfull story, love hearing stuff like that, and your garden is looking great. Keep the pics coming.
This morning while working in my cannabis garden I watched a large Spider wasp kill a very big garden spider. While the fight between the Garden Spider and spider wasp was going on I noticed a Girdled Lizard watching the commotion, and just when the Wasp had finished killing the spider the Girdled Lizard ran out chased the wasp away and had himself a wonderful breakfast.
The girls are still stretching must be at least 11ft tall by now.
Have a wonderful day all.........
40DS Wonderfull story, love hearing stuff like that, and your garden is looking great. Keep the pics coming.
This morning while working in my cannabis garden I watched a large Spider wasp kill a very big garden spider. While the fight between the Garden Spider and spider wasp was going on I noticed a Girdled Lizard watching the commotion, and just when the Wasp had finished killing the spider the Girdled Lizard ran out chased the wasp away and had himself a wonderful breakfast.
The girls are still stretching must be at least 11ft tall by now.
Have a wonderful day all.........
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Hope this garden update finds you all in good spirits..
Our South Easter wind has just blown through my garden at about 50mph. I had a main stem snap just below the top laterals and 2 laterals on 2 other plants, so a little damage to 3 plants. For the main stem snap I cut her just cut below the snapped area and packed her with fresh Aloe Ferox sap. First 2 pictures are the damage.The next are pictures of the first aid I applied to the slightly damaged girls last 2 pictures of the Aloe Ferox leaf and the Sap.
Have a wonderful day all.
Side.
Our South Easter wind has just blown through my garden at about 50mph. I had a main stem snap just below the top laterals and 2 laterals on 2 other plants, so a little damage to 3 plants. For the main stem snap I cut her just cut below the snapped area and packed her with fresh Aloe Ferox sap. First 2 pictures are the damage.The next are pictures of the first aid I applied to the slightly damaged girls last 2 pictures of the Aloe Ferox leaf and the Sap.
Have a wonderful day all.
Side.
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40degsouth
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Interesting technique with the aloe leaf Side, l haven’t seen that one before. Do you find the wound site creates a point for fungal infections later in the season?? This is one of the reasons why the big plant growers, stopped pruning out the insides of plants, preferring to focus on pushing plant health through nutrition, until harvest.
Anyway I’ve taken a few pictures of the volunteer plant from different angles, she hasn’t started to stretch yet but the Blackdogs have, even though I’ve upped the calcium nitrate from 139 to 250 grams per 200 litres, or 44 gallons with every feeding this year. I thought this would push them another week or ten days, at least but not this year.
The volunteer’s over two meters and the tri leader’s about 1.4.
So preflowers have also started on the Blackdogs and node spacing is beginning to tighten, sure signs flowering isn’t far away.
Here’s a picture of the smaller of the tri-lateral plants, the biggest is 1.6 meters tall.
And finally two of the tallest of the plants in the garden, six feet, or 1.8 meters. The first picture is the plant l cleaned out a few weeks ago for the side by side, to see if a plant with more foliage grows bigger and healthier due to its ability to incorporate more nutrients through its leaves.
So far I can’t say as there’s much difference. I could do a follow up clean out of unneeded stretcher material that really should of been done before stretch so l probably won’t bother.
Cheers,
40.
Anyway I’ve taken a few pictures of the volunteer plant from different angles, she hasn’t started to stretch yet but the Blackdogs have, even though I’ve upped the calcium nitrate from 139 to 250 grams per 200 litres, or 44 gallons with every feeding this year. I thought this would push them another week or ten days, at least but not this year.
The volunteer’s over two meters and the tri leader’s about 1.4.
And finally two of the tallest of the plants in the garden, six feet, or 1.8 meters. The first picture is the plant l cleaned out a few weeks ago for the side by side, to see if a plant with more foliage grows bigger and healthier due to its ability to incorporate more nutrients through its leaves.
So far I can’t say as there’s much difference. I could do a follow up clean out of unneeded stretcher material that really should of been done before stretch so l probably won’t bother.
40.
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40,
Yes I used the Aloe Ferox sap as my go to tree wound "antibiotic". I works really well and helps prevent, any stem rot entering at the wounded area. Below is a pic of a lower lateral that completely ripped off about 4 weeks ago and you can see how quickly it's healed.
Have a good one....
Side
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40degsouth
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Nice technique Side. Do you scratch the internal juice out and rub it into the wound or does it just transfer across 
I’ve had some good results with these 1.8 meter,100mm squares, weld mesh. Comes in a 30 meter roll and I cut them into 30 squares for a three foot wide cage or 20 for a little tighter support out of the blocks.
I’ve also found one, one meter, steel picket is enough for a plant shorter than ten feet; two for more. A little bit of pig wire over the top really gives a lot of extra support when the plants grow 12 plus feet.
Of course you can pull the cage up a couple of feet a cheat a bit.
This is the big plant that wasn’t cleaned out and is slightly falling behind, in height, to its sister that was by about 100mm and here she is
The volunteer plant is stretching hard and is well over two meters. We’ve had a bit of wind and one of her laterals has let go, so that’s the end of that experiment; I’ll tie her up soon so it doesn’t happen again. She does have a leaf or two with 11 fingers now too.
Here’s the same plant that started out with the phosphorus deficiency. She’s as tall as some of the smaller plants now at about 1.6-7 meters but definitely no where near as wide. She’s also decided to lean over in the wind again so l think I’ll just leave her because we’re running out of time now.
And l thought this was a good picture to illustrate just how much the laterals can stretch on the the Blackdogs. Some of the lower laterals are nearly as tall as the plants themselves now.
It’s been really hot here lately and the plants are starting to drink now. Stretch has nearly been on for a week and some of the plants have grown 300mm in five days.
P.S. these shots were taken a few days ago at their last feeding.
Cheers,
40
I’ve had some good results with these 1.8 meter,100mm squares, weld mesh. Comes in a 30 meter roll and I cut them into 30 squares for a three foot wide cage or 20 for a little tighter support out of the blocks.
I’ve also found one, one meter, steel picket is enough for a plant shorter than ten feet; two for more. A little bit of pig wire over the top really gives a lot of extra support when the plants grow 12 plus feet.
Of course you can pull the cage up a couple of feet a cheat a bit.
P.S. these shots were taken a few days ago at their last feeding.
Cheers,
40
Funkentelechy
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That's some great looking soil 40degsouth!
I squash a Aloe Ferox leaf and apply big gob of the leaf sap into the wound then take a piece of a fIlleted leaf and place the leaf over the wound as in the pic.Nice technique Side. Do you scratch the internal juice out and rub it into the wound or does it just transfer across
40degsouth
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Heyyy….Pipeline. Yeah, l forgot the most growth I’ve got out of a plant but it would of been a blue dream or blueberry headband from HSO; those girls got massive here. Although having said that Schrews Ancient Og f5’s got just as big. 
Hi Funkentelechy. Thanks, yeah the soil’s pumping. I’ve always said a good soil moves when you sit and watch it. You can’t scratch anywhere on the beds and not find a worm from about November through to the end of March.
Obviously I’ve posted a lot of information up about the soil here over the years but if there’s something specific you’d like to know please feel free to ask
And Side, thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it. It’s a really wonderful technique and as great organic techniques usually are, so very simple. I love it.
Have you tried other alloe species or is the particular one you use the one to use for a specific reason??
Cheers everyone,
40
Hi Funkentelechy. Thanks, yeah the soil’s pumping. I’ve always said a good soil moves when you sit and watch it. You can’t scratch anywhere on the beds and not find a worm from about November through to the end of March.
Obviously I’ve posted a lot of information up about the soil here over the years but if there’s something specific you’d like to know please feel free to ask
And Side, thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it. It’s a really wonderful technique and as great organic techniques usually are, so very simple. I love it.
Have you tried other alloe species or is the particular one you use the one to use for a specific reason??
Cheers everyone,
40
40ds,
I have both Aloe vera and Aloe ferox growing in my garden but I use Aloe Ferox, due to the below.
A lot of people world wide rave about the topical healing properties of Aloe Vera. Aloe Vera is also used by many organic cannabis growers as a supplemental top dress or if dry packaged or liquidised as a soil drench.
We in South Africa have a sister plant called Aloe Ferox which is much higher in aloin, amino acids, calcium, iron and all the other beneficial chemicals, so in my mind it must be better than Aloe vera, due to the higher quantities. (I understand more is not always better but in this instance there is no doubting one is better)
Aloe vera and aloe ferox are both aloe plants with similar uses in skin care, but aloe ferox has much more aloin and amino acids. Aloe ferox is native to South Africa, while aloe vera is cultivated worldwide.
Plant structure:
Aloe ferox: Has spines on its leaves, a firmer inner gel and a larger quantity of sap.
Aloe vera: Has no spines and a softer inner gel
Chemical composition:
Aloin: Aloe ferox has 20 times more aloin than aloe vera.
Amino acids: Aloe ferox has twice as many amino acids as aloe vera
Iron and calcium: Aloe ferox has more iron and calcium than aloe vera
Growing environment:
Aloe ferox: Grows wild in South Africa, especially in the Western where I live.
Aloe vera: Cultivated and farmed worldwide
Uses:
Skin care: Aloe ferox is ideal for skin care because it penetrates the skin to the deepest layer and stimulates cellular regeneration and repair
Wound healing: Aloe ferox has moisturizing and anti-inflammatory effects that help wounds heal.
Atopic dermatitis: Aloe ferox can be used as a safe alternative to antihistamines and topical corticosteroids to treat atopic dermatitis.
Blood pressure: Aloe ferox can help reduce blood pressure
Weight loss: Aloe ferox can help reduce body weight, BMI, LDLc, and FBG
Have a good one.
Side
I have both Aloe vera and Aloe ferox growing in my garden but I use Aloe Ferox, due to the below.
A lot of people world wide rave about the topical healing properties of Aloe Vera. Aloe Vera is also used by many organic cannabis growers as a supplemental top dress or if dry packaged or liquidised as a soil drench.
We in South Africa have a sister plant called Aloe Ferox which is much higher in aloin, amino acids, calcium, iron and all the other beneficial chemicals, so in my mind it must be better than Aloe vera, due to the higher quantities. (I understand more is not always better but in this instance there is no doubting one is better)
Aloe vera and aloe ferox are both aloe plants with similar uses in skin care, but aloe ferox has much more aloin and amino acids. Aloe ferox is native to South Africa, while aloe vera is cultivated worldwide.
Plant structure:
Aloe ferox: Has spines on its leaves, a firmer inner gel and a larger quantity of sap.
Aloe vera: Has no spines and a softer inner gel
Chemical composition:
Aloin: Aloe ferox has 20 times more aloin than aloe vera.
Amino acids: Aloe ferox has twice as many amino acids as aloe vera
Iron and calcium: Aloe ferox has more iron and calcium than aloe vera
Growing environment:
Aloe ferox: Grows wild in South Africa, especially in the Western where I live.
Aloe vera: Cultivated and farmed worldwide
Uses:
Skin care: Aloe ferox is ideal for skin care because it penetrates the skin to the deepest layer and stimulates cellular regeneration and repair
Wound healing: Aloe ferox has moisturizing and anti-inflammatory effects that help wounds heal.
Atopic dermatitis: Aloe ferox can be used as a safe alternative to antihistamines and topical corticosteroids to treat atopic dermatitis.
Blood pressure: Aloe ferox can help reduce blood pressure
Weight loss: Aloe ferox can help reduce body weight, BMI, LDLc, and FBG
Have a good one.
Side
40degsouth
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Thanks for the detailed response Side, excellent information. I believe l have seen this particular aloe growing here but I’m going to start researching it and get propagating. I think we all need this in our lives.
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