More Cartel violance

Hammerhead

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I was pretty shocked when I herd of this. They really need help getting this under controll.. This is the worst repost I have read so far.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...ocId=CNG.b969947e3b77f22abb01eefd55bf92b6.451

49 headless bodies dumped on north Mexico highway
By OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ, Associated Press–2 days ago
MONTERREY, Mexico (AP) — Forty-nine bodies with their heads, hands and feet hacked off were found Sunday dumped on a northern Mexico highway leading to the Texas border in what appeared to be the latest carnage in an escalating war between Mexico's two dominant drug cartels.
Local and federal authorities discovered the bodies before dawn scattered in a pool of blood at the entrance to the town of San Juan, on a highway leading from the metropolis of Monterrey to the border city of Reynosa. A white stone arch welcoming visitors was spray-painted with black letters: "100% Zeta."
Nuevo Leon state security spokesman Jorge Domene said at a news conference that the 43 men and six women would be hard to identify because of the lack of heads, hands and feet. The bodies were being taken to a Monterrey auditorium for DNA tests.
The victims could have been killed as long as two days ago at another location, then transported to San Juan, a town in the municipality of Cadereyta, about 105 miles (175 kilometers) west-southwest of McAllen, Texas, and 75 miles (125 kilometers) southwest of the Roma, Texas, border crossing, state Attorney General Adrian de la Garza said.
Only one couple looking for their missing daughter visited the morgue in Monterrey where autopsies were being performed on the mutilated bodies Sunday, a state police investigator said.
The officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case, said none of the six female bodies matched the missing daughter's description. He said some of the bodies were badly decomposed and some had their whole arms or lower legs missing.
De la Garza said he did not rule out the possibility that the victims were U.S.-bound migrants.
But it seemed more likely that the killings were the latest salvo in a gruesome game of tit-for-tat in fighting among brutal drug gangs.
"This is the most definitive of all the cartel wars," said Raul Benitez Manaut, a security expert at Mexico's National Autonomous University.
Mass body dumpings have increased around Mexico the last six months as the fearsome Zetas gang goes head to head with the powerful Sinaloa Cartel, led by fugitive drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, and its allies.
Under President Felipe Calderon's nearly six-year assault on organized crime, the two cartels have become the largest in the country and are battling over strategic transport routes and territory, including along the northern border with the U.S. and in the Gulf coast state of Veracruz.
In less than a month, the mutilated bodies of 14 men were left in a van in downtown Nuevo Laredo, 23 people were found hanged or decapitated in the same border city and 18 dismembered bodied were left near Mexico's second-largest city, Guadalajara. Nuevo Laredo, like Monterrey, is considered Zeta territory, while Guadalajara has long been controlled by gangs loyal to Sinaloa.
The Zetas are a transient gang without real territory or a secure stream of income, unlike Sinaloa with its lucrative cocaine trade and control of smuggling routes and territory, Benitez said. But the Zetas are heavily armed while Sinaloa has a weak enforcement arm, he said. The Zetas, founded by deserters from Mexico's elite special forces, started out as assassins for the Gulf Cartel before those two gangs had a bloody split in early 2010.
The government's success in killing or arresting cartel leaders has fractured some of the big gangs into weaker, quarreling bands that in many cases are lining up with either the Zetas or Sinaloa. At least one of the two cartels is present in nearly all of Mexico's 32 states.
A year ago this month, more than two dozen people — most of them Zetas — were killed when they tried to infiltrate the Sinaloa's territory in the Pacific Coast state of Nayarit.
But their war started in earnest last fall in Veracruz, a strategic smuggling state with a giant gulf port.
A drug gang allied with Sinaloa left 35 bodies on a main boulevard in the city of Veracruz in September, and police found 32 other bodies, apparently killed by the same gang, a few days after that. The goal apparently was to take over territory that had been dominated by the Zetas.
Twenty-six bodies were found in November in Guadalajara, another territory being disputed by the Zetas and Sinaloa.
Drug violence has killed more than 47,500 people since Calderon launched a stepped-up offensive when he took office in December 2006.
Mexico is now in the midst of presidential race to replace Calderon, who by law can't run for re-election. Drug violence seems to be escalating, but none of the major candidates, Enrique Pena Nieto, Josefina Vazquez Mota or Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, has referred to the body dumpings directly. All three say they will stop the violence and make Mexico a more secure place, but offer few details on how their plans would differ from Calderon's.
Benitez said the wave of violence has nothing to do with the presidential election.
"It has the dynamic of a war between cartels," he said.
Associated Press writer Galia Garcia-Palafox in Mexico City contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
 
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Don Treadonme

Shit is real bad. So which gang does the CIA pose as? Not the zetas. The old guard I imagine ..fuck...we are fucking fucked man....I don't think people get what is really going on here...sad...
 
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Space Ghost

The CIA and DEA are just competing cartels to the big-big boys... Measure you gains, measure your losses, adjust tactics accordingly...
 
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Iron_Lion

Shocking? not really.

Obama and Att. General Eric Holder supplied all of those cartel crazies with guns and grenade's what did they think was going to happen lol.
 

Snoopster

Active member
If there were 12,000 Americans dying each year over drug violence, you know we would be having a real conversation about how fucked the War On Drugs is.

Legalizing weed nationally would take away 60% of the cartel's income. That would be a start.
 

Harry Gypsna

Dirty hippy Bastard
If there were 12,000 Americans dying each year over drug violence, you know we would be having a real conversation about how fucked the War On Drugs is.
I doubt it...they're perfectly happy for people to get beaten to death or raped and given aids in jail
Now if you'd said 1200 upper class ivy league muckity mucks.......
 

yesum

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Best I can do is grow my own and not give any cartel a dime of my money. 'Take a bite out of crime' like McGruff the crime dog says.
 

OrganicBuds

Active member
almost 50,000 dead since 2006, but remember, the board is safe.

Also, Obama said the fence is "almost complete." Is 5% almost complete to anybody else? How about I pay 5% of my taxes.
 
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Don Treadonme

Best I can do is grow my own and not give any cartel a dime of my money. 'Take a bite out of crime' like McGruff the crime dog says.

Ya but if everyone did that how would they be able to afford to buy guns and explosives from the US Justice Dept?
 
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longearedfriend

113,423,047 (2010)
Mexico, Population

average it at 113 000 000

12 000 dead a year

that's 0.01 % of the population a year

that's nothing

and most of the people who are involved, it's because they are police or are involved in the trade or are blocking the trade

and if we'd look at the number of people who are starving or living in shit in mexico, it would probably be bigger than 0.01%

cartel is small problem... or not exactly the root of the problems..

honestly, I don't think mexico can do anything about it...
 
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supermanlives

Well-known member
113,423,047 (2010)
Mexico, Population

average it at 113 000 000

12 000 dead a year

that's 0.01 % of the population a year

that's nothing

and most of the people who are involved, it's because they are police or are involved in the trade or are blocking the trade

and if we'd look at the number of people who are starving or living in shit in mexico, it would probably be bigger than 0.01%

cartel is small problem... or not exactly the root of the problems..

honestly, I don't think mexico can do anything about it...
those cartels kill whole families lots of innocent peeps die not just drug dealers. you really dont have a clue. i know a guy that lost most of his family..
 

Infinitesimal

my strength is a number, and my soul lies in every
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"cartels" or any other criminal drug organization only do these types things because they feel the need to either A to keep themselves protected from cages or assassination, and or B to acquire new wholesale and retail locations.

all of which could be avoided if it weren't for these individuals and organizations being forced into a corner by the laws and enforcement of them. they could open wholesale and retail locations like any other business, and they wouldn't need to assassinate and Tourorize their competitors or government officials.

its the unjust enforcement of unconstitutional "laws", acts of congress of which they possess no true jurisdiction to pass over non 14th amendment citizens, that causes this whole issue. with the war on drugs being the tip of the spear in this instance.

if the cannabis busts weren't used to justify the war on drugs... then there would never be enough hard drug users in the nation maybe the world to justify the spending of treasury dollars to fund said failed, unconstitutional prohibitive policy.


peace,
Infi
 

Infinitesimal

my strength is a number, and my soul lies in every
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Important! there are many layers to this guys spoken word, but there are definitely aspects that pertain to the war on drugs and why humans commit crimes in general.

peace,
Infi
 
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longearedfriend

hard to understand what the guy is saying ^^

if he simply spoke I would get his message across more accurately

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superman: so why do cartels kill innocent family ?
 

stc9357

Member
Innocent families are killed because they oppose the cartel, have a family member in the cartel, alert the authorities to cartel activities the same reason people get killed by gangs in the US. You don't have to be involved in cartel activities to get impacted.
 
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