We don't believe it was us... I'll never know for sure if it was my wrong doing but our germination rates for our current Mephisto Genetics stock that we tried running has been atrocious... I'm talking damn near 25% success rate. maybe worse maybe better ,who knows, either way, its horrible horrible horrible rates.. I was a bit devastated for real, I've never had so many seeds not pop, ever, even as a 16 year old who's not knowing what the fuck I'm doing, guerilla grow, bag seed in paper towels, plate in a drawer. I still always had 85%-100% indoor, averaged 95%-100%, was it just an epic string of luck? Has my green thumb died from the 18mo hiatus? Do I have green rust? I thought that was the reason.. thought it must happen to everybody at some point, can't be nonstop lavishness all the time..
Then we saw some seeds break the surface.. Glueberry OG auto (Dutch passion), Bloody Skunk Auto (Sweet Seeds), Polar Express Auto (Greenthumb Seeds), Tonic Ryder (World of Seeds), GSC Auto (Fast Buds), Beary White (Mephisto Genetics), Alien vs Triangle (Mephisto Genetics) and Chemdogging (Mephisto Genetics). So I was like ok, it's not me..? Bad luck?
However... during this time there were many failures. 7 The White Trains (Mephisto Genetics) failed to germ... 7... a whole fucking pack failed. My favorite strain as well lol... go figure.. its Top shelf meds for PTSD... it sucks that this happened. Note, last grow I also had trouble with The White Train... took 3 attempts for 1 plant. So 10 total failures with running The White Train, 1/10. This strain is Ghost Train Haze OG x Walter White (The White auto) and it's also been discontinued a while back, when I grew it out and smoked it, i was baffled as to why it was discontinued, it was ECSD, Chemdog, OG Kush, GDP, Piff, Headband, quality strain, elite world class, like whoah this has peaked my interest level of good, this doesn't happen often, like I wanna grow a photoperiod version of this to share with the world status type strain, anyway.. Back to the program, The second Beary White failed to germ, which has also been discontinued, noticing a trend? it also has their Walter White ( The White Auto) in it... curious if that's a culprit?
Out of 9 seeds with Walter White in it (7 THE white Train failed, 1 out of 2 Beary White failed), 8 seeds failed to crack the shell after 36hrs of soaking at 72F in darkness and failed to break surface when sown in soil with domes, lightly moistened as usual (95%-100% success with this method... usually). Same light as before, same fans, same everything. Both Beary White and the White Train had strange shaped, tiny seeds as well. When I saw the seeds, I got nervous, they were very wonky looking. We grew Sucker Punch (Bubba Kush Auto by Auto Seeds) and it had tiny seeds too but germed fine, they weren't all wonky looking though, just small.
We also had failure with Skywalker OG Auto (Mephisto genetics) 1 out of 3 germed.. fucking sad because Skywalker OG is one of my wife and I favorite strain. Its Skywalker OG x Triangle Kush Auto (Mephisto Genetics), TK auto is also discontinued but was the fiery'st of fire kooosh one could ask for, lol but it was discontinued. I wanted more seeds of it and was sad to see this. Much like the White Train, when we grew it and smoked the TK, we wondered why would they discontinue this..? This is legit the best kush we've ever had and in 10' we had damn near all the kush cali could grow lol, tried alotta kush that year. So failure with another strain that was bred to a now discontinued line.
Even tried their Alien Vs Triangle and watched it fail three times... 2/5 seeds popped. The two that made it had mutant seeds as I'd describe them. I had to use tweezers and separate the seed shell from the seedling, and the seeds were fused to the leaves, causing the seedlings to keep growing with the seed closed on the top of the seed. I literally had to do surgery on the seedlings to make them viable lol. I should've taken pictures.. never seen this before, it
was very strange.. I thought both would die for sure but I always have faith to the end and even then I've saved plants from death.Alien Vs Triangles genetics are Ripleys OG x Triangle Kush Auto. AvT was their staple strain forever. They recommended it to anyone who doubted autoflowers ability to compete with photoperiod quality flowers, frequently hit 22%-25% THC, monster yields, 4-6oz+ in soil.
After all the germination failures, I went to their website and I recently found out that it is now also discontinued like The White Train, Triangle Kush, Beary White and Deep Blue C.. the AvTs had shit vigor and took days to pop as well. When they finally popped, they were retarded. They're tall girls... but huge intermodal spacing and no satellite buds. For instance, Tonic Ryder has 17 tops sites, no topping, no LST, no monster cropping or super cropping, only leaf tucking and defoliation of lower sites (same technique for all plants). Glueberry OG has like 14-16 tops, GSC auto has like 16? Bloody Skunk 15? Polar Express 13, Beary white has like 9 lol, AvT has like 7..? Chemdogging is doing fine however... short indica looking plant, 12-16 tops. Nice plant.. as usual. Still failed to germ 1 outta 2...
Even tried 2 Triangle Kush Autos, both failed... to crack after 36 hours, tried these in rapid routers, 72F heating mat, some, etc.. perfect conditions for all germs after the initial direct failure failures, I thought I'd try some plus rooters.. Tonic Ryder and GSC auto broke surface in less that a day of being planted,
Even tried 2 SODK (Mephisto Genetics) both failed, SODK is Sour Orange Diesel x Triangle Kush auto...
Even tried Deep Blue C (Mephisto Genetics), a discontinued strain by them that is Chemdogging x UK Blues (a UK skunk). 0/2 rates...
So, The White Train [discontinued] and Beary White [discontinued] , Deep Blue C [discontinued], Alien Vs Triangle [discontinued].
CD had vigor up the wazoo. BW was awful runty seedling with no vigor at all. BW had a wet noodle stem for 2 weeks, starting looking like it had nutrient deficiencies or heat burn from the LED for those same 2 weeks, despite the CD being 100% fine and blasting off. CD literally became 4 times the size in a week. Same day age. No other plants had issues like the Beary White either. Strange.
Anyone else run in to this issue with Meph gear? First go around we were fucking stoked. Was Triangle Kush, chemdogging, SODK, The White Train, Ripleys OG. All great yields, all some of the best flower weve ever had. All resin like you're dry sifting everytime you grind it and terp bombs blowing off when the jars are opened. Vigor and greatness besides The White Train, but the one that popped was superb. Just find it odd. Other companies popped quicker and had no issues. I'm torn, I loved the MG flowers... fucking incredible but these seeds are too expensive and a bitch in a half to get especially now, with every seed bank only wanted cash or cryptocurrency. Feedback? Questions? Peace.
Then we saw some seeds break the surface.. Glueberry OG auto (Dutch passion), Bloody Skunk Auto (Sweet Seeds), Polar Express Auto (Greenthumb Seeds), Tonic Ryder (World of Seeds), GSC Auto (Fast Buds), Beary White (Mephisto Genetics), Alien vs Triangle (Mephisto Genetics) and Chemdogging (Mephisto Genetics). So I was like ok, it's not me..? Bad luck?
However... during this time there were many failures. 7 The White Trains (Mephisto Genetics) failed to germ... 7... a whole fucking pack failed. My favorite strain as well lol... go figure.. its Top shelf meds for PTSD... it sucks that this happened. Note, last grow I also had trouble with The White Train... took 3 attempts for 1 plant. So 10 total failures with running The White Train, 1/10. This strain is Ghost Train Haze OG x Walter White (The White auto) and it's also been discontinued a while back, when I grew it out and smoked it, i was baffled as to why it was discontinued, it was ECSD, Chemdog, OG Kush, GDP, Piff, Headband, quality strain, elite world class, like whoah this has peaked my interest level of good, this doesn't happen often, like I wanna grow a photoperiod version of this to share with the world status type strain, anyway.. Back to the program, The second Beary White failed to germ, which has also been discontinued, noticing a trend? it also has their Walter White ( The White Auto) in it... curious if that's a culprit?
Out of 9 seeds with Walter White in it (7 THE white Train failed, 1 out of 2 Beary White failed), 8 seeds failed to crack the shell after 36hrs of soaking at 72F in darkness and failed to break surface when sown in soil with domes, lightly moistened as usual (95%-100% success with this method... usually). Same light as before, same fans, same everything. Both Beary White and the White Train had strange shaped, tiny seeds as well. When I saw the seeds, I got nervous, they were very wonky looking. We grew Sucker Punch (Bubba Kush Auto by Auto Seeds) and it had tiny seeds too but germed fine, they weren't all wonky looking though, just small.
We also had failure with Skywalker OG Auto (Mephisto genetics) 1 out of 3 germed.. fucking sad because Skywalker OG is one of my wife and I favorite strain. Its Skywalker OG x Triangle Kush Auto (Mephisto Genetics), TK auto is also discontinued but was the fiery'st of fire kooosh one could ask for, lol but it was discontinued. I wanted more seeds of it and was sad to see this. Much like the White Train, when we grew it and smoked the TK, we wondered why would they discontinue this..? This is legit the best kush we've ever had and in 10' we had damn near all the kush cali could grow lol, tried alotta kush that year. So failure with another strain that was bred to a now discontinued line.
Even tried their Alien Vs Triangle and watched it fail three times... 2/5 seeds popped. The two that made it had mutant seeds as I'd describe them. I had to use tweezers and separate the seed shell from the seedling, and the seeds were fused to the leaves, causing the seedlings to keep growing with the seed closed on the top of the seed. I literally had to do surgery on the seedlings to make them viable lol. I should've taken pictures.. never seen this before, it
was very strange.. I thought both would die for sure but I always have faith to the end and even then I've saved plants from death.Alien Vs Triangles genetics are Ripleys OG x Triangle Kush Auto. AvT was their staple strain forever. They recommended it to anyone who doubted autoflowers ability to compete with photoperiod quality flowers, frequently hit 22%-25% THC, monster yields, 4-6oz+ in soil.
After all the germination failures, I went to their website and I recently found out that it is now also discontinued like The White Train, Triangle Kush, Beary White and Deep Blue C.. the AvTs had shit vigor and took days to pop as well. When they finally popped, they were retarded. They're tall girls... but huge intermodal spacing and no satellite buds. For instance, Tonic Ryder has 17 tops sites, no topping, no LST, no monster cropping or super cropping, only leaf tucking and defoliation of lower sites (same technique for all plants). Glueberry OG has like 14-16 tops, GSC auto has like 16? Bloody Skunk 15? Polar Express 13, Beary white has like 9 lol, AvT has like 7..? Chemdogging is doing fine however... short indica looking plant, 12-16 tops. Nice plant.. as usual. Still failed to germ 1 outta 2...
Even tried 2 Triangle Kush Autos, both failed... to crack after 36 hours, tried these in rapid routers, 72F heating mat, some, etc.. perfect conditions for all germs after the initial direct failure failures, I thought I'd try some plus rooters.. Tonic Ryder and GSC auto broke surface in less that a day of being planted,
Even tried 2 SODK (Mephisto Genetics) both failed, SODK is Sour Orange Diesel x Triangle Kush auto...
Even tried Deep Blue C (Mephisto Genetics), a discontinued strain by them that is Chemdogging x UK Blues (a UK skunk). 0/2 rates...
So, The White Train [discontinued] and Beary White [discontinued] , Deep Blue C [discontinued], Alien Vs Triangle [discontinued].
CD had vigor up the wazoo. BW was awful runty seedling with no vigor at all. BW had a wet noodle stem for 2 weeks, starting looking like it had nutrient deficiencies or heat burn from the LED for those same 2 weeks, despite the CD being 100% fine and blasting off. CD literally became 4 times the size in a week. Same day age. No other plants had issues like the Beary White either. Strange.
Anyone else run in to this issue with Meph gear? First go around we were fucking stoked. Was Triangle Kush, chemdogging, SODK, The White Train, Ripleys OG. All great yields, all some of the best flower weve ever had. All resin like you're dry sifting everytime you grind it and terp bombs blowing off when the jars are opened. Vigor and greatness besides The White Train, but the one that popped was superb. Just find it odd. Other companies popped quicker and had no issues. I'm torn, I loved the MG flowers... fucking incredible but these seeds are too expensive and a bitch in a half to get especially now, with every seed bank only wanted cash or cryptocurrency. Feedback? Questions? Peace.
