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Foomar - G13-Diesel x MBS, Northern Lights (1990 ish) x MBS, Casey Jones x MBS, Blockhead Haze x MBS, eyes lit up when i saw those crosses they all sounds great would love to see a og cross of mbs i think it would improve its overall structure of the og. When are u planning to do the exodus x MBS?? exodus with a dark purple black colour with a diesel taste yes plz!!

Jonnyb - that nightmare diesel sounds like the kind of nightmare i wanna have, would love to see a cross like that
 
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just thought ide give you an idea of what nightmare diesel is if you dont mind foomar..... that single bud had absolutely no stem, just the top knot of the cola and it weighed 9.5 grams dry! it is very dense, rock hard with thick stems to hold it up well! top single plant yield was 7 ounces from a 4ft plant
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
The northern lights is probably Sensi in origin , was thought to be NL#5 from sag? but the timeline does not fit , whatever it is its the most basic boreing plant possible with no dominant traits and has only been kept around this long as an outcross testbed , expressions are far more obvious useing her.

From previous results i would expect huge differences between say geisha x MBS and MBS x Geisha , good to grow them out alongside.

Have made a few (sandstorm x columbian) x MBS , a monster sat from Raco that needs downsizeing a bit for the conservatory and could do with a flavour tweek.

Pretty much everything that flowered over two months got pollinated on a few buds at least , some oddball ones for sure but all have hope.
Would make some strange freebies for the brave.

Two MBS males used were all tagged seperately , running the dark one first with the green as backup , main traits are desirable regardless of colour but i prefer attractive plants over max yield.



Never really liked the cheese , let it go twice when it did the rounds way back , was just called skunk back then and impressed few locals at the time , took a while to track the original down again and have three in early veg from a plant i gave away in 1995 ish , no loss of vigour as expected after 50 or more consecutive cloneings.

His plants in full flower look quite different to pictures online and my own dim memories , should have a good argument with the usual suspects in a couple of months time.

Hopeing it kills that bloody awfull smell and adds some quality , several locals have kept big budahs version and prefer it as i do , the extra odour control and paranoia is not worth it to me.



That nightmare is a stunner jonny , with that genetic mixture i would be happy with any expression that came out , good yielder too.

Thanks Squiggles , have reread them as memory loss has kicked in , happy with most but the early pics could certainly be better.
 

Joeski

Active member
Great work Foomar... if it was me id be dieing to test as many of those strains as possible.. all i can say is Northern Lights (1990 ish) x MBS sounds very interesting to me... always been a huge fan of NL since i was younger and a mate pulled off a monster season with about 20 NLs outdoors... best of luck for the your future grows
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Thanks Joeski , we had two NL clones , one was outstanding and one nothing special , my idiot brother binned the good one in a mixup , exceptionally stable but bland , has been usefull as a tester of males.

Managed to line up the two original with the promiseing F2 in the middle.
Standard conditions so a valid comparison.

This F2 is stubbornly green in the cold despite being the progeny of the dark girl on the right and a very coloured male.


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In detail , original green MBS , average yield , 65 days to finish from clone , stalls at lower temps.

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Original dark MBS , lower yield , 70+ days to finish from clone but stands the cold with ease.

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F2 green MBS , higher yield , 55 days to finish from clone , slightly better leaf/bud ratio and a little more frosty esp underleaves , getting cold and going strong.

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Not seen real sunlight for ages and the pics look crap taken under artificials , going to have to get some decent lights , hope cheap daylight spectrum cfls are enougth.

Am useing up a box of nasty chinese sodiums and binning them every six weeks , cost four quid each but strangely work fine on a digital ballast , just lose output faster and are a little yellow , cost effective till they are gone but will go back upmarket then.

Mate uses one of those retro white phillips ceramics in flower , was expensive but a very good quality of light that renders colours quite well , could drag out the old ballast as they dont like digitals.

He proudly brought it round to show me how white the light was and melted it in two minutes flat , he thought i still had magnetics and i assumed any new product would be digital , arguments continue as to who was the stupidest.

Probably the supplier who replaced it FOC.
 
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jonnybgood29

belive it or not fumar, it thows only two main phenos, both kind of strange. 1 is a sativa leafed pheno(my favorite) that grows more squat like an indica, and 2 an indica leaved pheno that can get way out of hand if not treated with respect very fast grower and major stretcher.... both great yielders and strong smoke, but the sat leaved one is slightly smoother with a citrus tang and will put you to slepp on three hits! two hits and youll be watcheing a movie 20 minutes after it ends!:laughing::jump:
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Hi jonny , both sound really good and would expect some stunning minor expressions to surface given the numbers and all good bud whilst finding them.

Two originals and two F2,s , little to choose apart from the darker genetic coloured ones yield lower but have stronger sharper flavours , all the green F2,s vary slghtly in yield and every flavour is unique so far , persisting well into a cure.

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Two have been distinct grapefruit , strange after selection for pineapple to be there in quantity and an unexpected treat.



Sorted the F2 seed from that tiny plant and have 500 or so good full term ones , threw ten that squished when pinch tested into soil and five came up , plenty of vigour in this line.

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Popped ten MBS (dark) x Casey Jones#3 male , expect some interesting variants and hope the casey does not dominate the subtle MBS flavours.
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
About a week left for this one but a cracking smoke even if taken now , headrush eye candy at this stage but much better left to mature.

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All the dark F2,s so far have had a distinct leaf margin and leaf aspect ratio , could spot the genetic dark expressions after a week in flower if this holds true , usefull if it is consistant but growing them all out anyway.

The green heavy yielders are the ones most would grow , just have a thing for cute plants as i spend a lot of time with them , yield not that important.
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Room is filling up with the batch of Antipodes girls , some nice variations comeing out , all past mid flower and no intersex expressed.


Most are green like these two , upcurled leaf edges on some and minor variation in leaf form , similar odour on all.

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One purple one , could pass for the mother but with MBS terpene mix at this stage.

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This one is unique so far , probably a minor expression , a lot of Deep Chunk showing and an acid smell , most trichomes of the batch if you look close and take the extensive underleaf coverage into account.

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Leaves are so dense and large on this one that it takes up twice the space , other expressions pack in tight with overlapping fan stems and are sogging well in two litres with pots touching.

Fifty four plants under a 600 with some additional twenty week hazes trained up the backwall , lit area is 10 x 6 feet , against all conventional wisdom they are happy enougth as long as they are moved and turned every day , and have one in three under the sweet spot.
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
Moderator
ICMag Supporter
Room is filling up with the batch of Antipodes girls , some nice variations comeing out , all past mid flower and no intersex expressed.


Most are green like these two , upcurled leaf edges on some and minor variation in leaf form , similar odour on all.

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One purple one , could pass for the mother but with MBS terpene mix at this stage.

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This one is unique so far , probably a minor expression , a lot of Deep Chunk showing and an acid smell , most trichomes of the batch if you look close and take the extensive underleaf coverage into account.

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Leaves are so dense and large on this one that it takes up twice the space , other expressions pack in tight with overlapping fan stems and are sogging well in two litres with pots touching.

Fifty four plants under a 600 with some additional twenty week hazes trained up the backwall , lit area is 10 x 6 feet , against all conventional wisdom they are happy enougth as long as they are moved and turned every day , and have one in three under the sweet spot.
Antipodes are looking great foomar ,
always a fan of that curled up leaf trait , very prominant in deep chunk , but ive also noticed it on some c99 ..
sure looks like a nice cross foomar , and dont doubt it will look even nicer as the harvest comes closer ..
haze up the walls hey ,, hehe looks like youve got all the meds for the head sorted man , good form ...
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Thanks Donald , they certainly show promise and one seems to be the reason for the cross , the dark girl has strong colours and an MBS odour , significantly higher yield than the mother.

This was the only one topped , due to a rampageing kitten atack in veg and it cloned well , the mother is sometimes a little difficult.

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The green ones have a more citrus smell , every one distinct , one is the strongest real grapefruit odour i have ever found includeing within grapefruit crosses.

None of the eight males of disparate origins have managed to dominate the blackberry genetic colour traits in any cross so far , all that colour go very dark and the greens stay green , no half measures , flavours usually dominated by the male parental line.
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Cuter by the day .

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Getting in close you can see the trichome stems starting to fill with purple.

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Hope this is a predator mite.

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foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Quite a vibrant green , low 50.s dark temps now and no colour or yellowing yet , keeping the roots warm from the veg cabinet underneath is working.

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Popped five more F2,s now at nine days , the bottom right just potted up is going to be a monster as they all broke soil the same day , record growth rate in this setup at five nodes.

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NE_GROWER_978

Senior Member
That MBS looks super killer foomar. i cant wait till mine are in full bloom. the purple coming out in those trichs is a very nice sight. would make some awesome looking oil / bubble :)
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Thanks NE_GROWER , thats actually an Antipodes but an original dark MBS looked as good at the chop.

The trichome stem colour seems to be a Blackberry marker trait , the genetic colour extends across all surfaces and structures even in a hot room.

Dry sift from the mother looks like crushed purple pills , bit of a burnt rubber aftertaste that the MBS should improve , other males have worked well.

If you dont make some F2,s of the MBS you will probably regret it when you start to smoke the bud , thankfully they reveg well and can be resurrected.
Very easy to clone a week into flower right up to chop day , nothing fussy with these and an easy grow.

A local nutcase is running eight original MBS green clones under a 400 on a 14/10 light cycle , he has no problems in mid flower but i would not mess around like this myself to shave a few days off an already acceptable flowertime.

Set the timer for 13/11 once by mistake and everything was fine for at least six months till i noticed , but two hours is really pushing your luck.
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
They really do root well , this F2 is an 8 inch sideshoot taken three weeks into flower , all seven days or less to this stage.

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On these bigger cuts have been cutting at 45 deg as usual then dipping in rooting powder and punching it into the stem with a blade tip or that nasty looking device , seems to consistantly improve amount and spread of roots.
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Room is looking its best now , gap between mites dieing off and mildew starting , everythings really healthy while it lasts.

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This one has the look of the mother.

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