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MBS test grow .......

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Kindly given a while ago , everything over ran and finally have the space.
As others have found , the shells are a bit tougth and will benefit from some help , only managed four from ten and will do better with the second batch.

Once they broke soil they move pretty fast , two tall ones just showed as female under 20/4 cycle , just topped as i really want a clone and not willing to risk mid flower sideshoots on plants that smell this good already.

Size is a reflection of variable germination time more than expression , all show similar cute leaf deformities and have a distinctive look amongst many others , very long fan stems another visible trait , girls are hollow stemmed and very square in section.

Information on the Antipodes cross starts at post 77

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moonunit

Member
Hi m8, great to see you here. Don has nothing but great things to say about your growing and evaluation/testing skills and from what i have seen so do i.
I am still yet to puff the mbs myself, have a small test a few weeks away, but thus far i am very very happy, more yield on some expressions than i thought would be aswell. Cant wait to see how they go for you and your thoughts on the line m8, again good to see you here and ty for taking the time and space to test these out for us.
much respect
moonunit
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Thanks for the kind words , its a pleasure to try something different and this is looking to be good.

Clone showing good roots after five days in the bubbler , this is impressive and a record for this cutting type in plain rain water.

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foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
The two topped girls have recovered well and clones are safely rooted , left them in flower so will yield a bit low but a lot sooner.

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Donald Mallard

el duck
Moderator
ICMag Supporter
Hey foomar ,, nice to see youve gotten some room to run them ,
as moon mentioned i look foward to your usual decisive descriptions ..
have you noticed any odour to them as yet??

Reflecting a little on a previous grow ,, i notice many think the sky is going to fall in with crosses folks may use to feminised seeds , the blackberry , c99 cross you grew was one of them ,, and i noticed the sky didnt fall down , hehehehe ..
thanks muchly for your input foomar ...
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Hi Donald , one has a faint generic skunk odour and one is almost diesel and smells quite strong.

The Blackberry cross gave three wonderfull distinct expressions that have been rock solid stable under varied conditions and have also been free of intersex in a dozen of my own crosses.

Have a casey x NYCD from Kinderfeld which was femmed and still a keeper , no problems here or with its crosses , not all femmed are bad but i test them hard for stability before passing out clones or working with them.
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Filling out and starting to form buds despite being topped at the worst time , good test of stability however.

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This one has shown as male at nine nodes after a few days 12/12 , similar in vigour to the first two girls , will be topped and cloned and tested out.

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This is the last of the first batch , unsexed at eight nodes and less than a foot high under identical conditions it seems to be another more compact expression of the first one with a diesel smell , could be more manageable for tight spaces.

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foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Very visible changes daily in the buds , leaves remain distinctive and the plants obvious in a room full of everything.

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Last of the four looks to be a male now , much shorter internode than the first one and an almost diesel odour , must be cloned.

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moonunit

Member
Hi m8, looking very nice thusfar. I am just finishing up a small test batch and i must say i am very very happy. I stressed the heck out em and only got a couple of very very late nannas on a couple of plants. Stresses included dark period interuptions, heat and light intensity. Lots of variablity on specific traits, as per design i like to add variabilty to the traits that encompas what i would call personal taste, whilst providing stabilty in other traits i deem essential to the line. That way everyones tastes are covered and the line remains distinct.
The diesel smelling ones are the zoid coming through. I would call the sour aroma ( it has a sweet and sour trait in the line, depending on what gen you look in, but the sour is the dominent one) of the zoid sort of a combination of fuel, mint and vegemite lol. Very weird smell but so nice. I have a female mbs zoid expression a few weeks away, as its the longest flowering expression of the mbs i have seen thusfar. I am very eager to smoke it though as it looks and smells like a 50/50 indy sat hybrid zoidfuel with a hint of fruit, i think this one will be a winner for sure.
Alot of affie gym socks kind of intermeadiate expressions will pop up, but they are dam nice aswell. Im yet to see a bad phenotype that i wouldnt want to puff and have already found some exceptional phenotypical expressions. The yield and vigor are abit more than i expected once flowering on the mbs aswell, so another bonus :)
Anyways m8 looking very very nice, cant wait to see em flowered out and to hear your opinion on the puff.
much respect
moonunit
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Thanks moonunit , these two have good vigour and have had some stress , no intersex parts or pre structures found , clean to the bottom.

The leaf structure is easily spotted in the room , dull satin surface and thick edges are distinctive and not noted before , look like they were cut from felt and artificial.

Buds are filling out rapidly , fed nothing and not looking likely to need anything , i like efficient plants and these are not fussy.

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Smell is almost sour diesel with a strong fruit , compact male very similar and nearly as strong.

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This one is going to be a looker by the end.

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foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Untopped these would have been huge , impressive vigour that is missing in so many crosses and a high yield potential , males forming a queue.

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This compact bushy male has an almost diesel smell , top cloned fast and easy , front runner for now but everything being kept.

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foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
This is nine days in the bubbler and well into flower , backup to the top cutting to be safe , stability indicator as she revegs.

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moonunit

Member
Lovely :) , here on out is where the mbs really gets vigorous, in the production of trics and weight :)
much respect
moonunit
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Looking better by the day , this one is starting to show a little colour and a real hint of diesel when fondled.

Dark cycle temps will be in the low 50,s or worse by the finish , i keep the roots warm so this should be a real beauty at the end.

Missed a watering and these and others were in total collapse , the MBS recovered with a loss of fans but are otherwise fine , another cross has gone fullblown intersex from this stress.

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This less branching one is more mouldy socks and decay , in a good way.

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Lower buds are stable in the gloom , quite low light levels as tightly packed in a huge tangled scrog of sorts.

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moonunit

Member
Hi foomar m8, looking great. Looks like you have a sativa z99 phenotype and an intermiediate affie type( the mouldy gym socks is a good description of it), but it smokes and taste lovely and not of mouldy gym socks. We have seen some late nanna's, but no other intersex reguardless of stress, and the late nannas did no damage and where very managable.
From here on out is where they will really distinquish themselves, packing on weight and trics.
much respect
moonunit
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
Thanks for the comments , these really are gaining bulk at a faster rate than usual for their type , one is going to be very dark soon as leaf margins blacken.

Two variations side by side.

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Love the look and structure of this one.

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This one looks pretty good too , will probably not show colour but possibly the keeper.

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Good trichome coverage in low nutes regime , equivalent to average UK soil outdoors , would take a lot more K if desired , prefer a less forced product myself and yield is not important.

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Follow up clones going into properly fed soil and an ebb and flow later , reckon both will yield very heavy if pushed .
 

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