Just a head's up for thse who might be able to capitalize on this.

[RobFromTX]

Of course cannabis doesn't actually provide energy (unless you eat lots of seeds).

Not energy but when you smoke a strain thats mostly sativa you can certainly tell the difference

Ive never eaten seeds but ive smoked a lot of them

 

[El Timbo]

Not energy but when you smoke a strain thats mostly sativa you can certainly tell the difference

Ive never eaten seeds but ive smoked a lot of them

Yes - destroyer was always one that got people moving and talking like idiots - even when they had no idea what they were smoking.

 

[RobFromTX]

Yes - destroyer was always one that got people moving and talking like idiots - even when they had no idea what they were smoking.

I really regret that i missed out on that one. Cannabiogens heyday was before i started growing but the pictures of it on the ultimate sativa thread speak for themselves

 

[El Timbo]

I really regret that i missed out on that one. Cannabiogens heyday was before i started growing but the pictures of it on the ultimate sativa thread speak for themselves

After a heavy meal with wine my ex said she was going for a siesta but took 2 tokes from a destroyer joint before she went (she didn't know what it was) - normally a Sunday siesta for her would be 2 solid hours of sleep but 10 minutes later she was back, cleaning the whole house, talking non stop.

 

[CityWeed]

Point blank: let some of these 'dispo' customers actually smoke REAL sativa like a nice pearl stem and all this nonsense about 'kinda sativa' WILL DISAPPEAR. No way pseudo seconal smokers would prefer that effect over actual sativa uplift.

I've vaporized the same cuts from dispo and from organic.

Hydroponic dispensary weed all smokes relatively the same. Like groggy shitweed with a bad/off flavor. Suntan lotion and sweaty feet when it's supposed to be fruity and sour.

Properly grown cannabis smokes more like Sativa, regardless of strain. You should be able to vaporize any indica Kush all night long. Get tired, vape more, get tired, vape more. That was an endless cycle of mine during the Kush era.

Dispensary weed doesn't re-energize you every 3 hours, and you've probably already smoked it all anyway, over a 3 hour long session, trying to keep the 10 minute chain high going.

 

[zaprjaques]

i imagine if a dispensary desperately wanted to promote true tropical varieties, they could invest in growing like 2 huge plants and give out tiny promotional samples with every purchase if buyers are interested. or like a dimebag at a discounted price.
this way they could gauge the interest in their area without a huge loss probably.

 

[Lebanizer]

... In an ideal world the dispensaries would have as many as possible of each variety, Sativas, Indicas, Hybrids and even Ruderallis so that people could try each strain over time and find which medicine is best for them.

In an ideal world, there would be none of the western strains and all of us would be having imports. Also no one would be growing indoor.

 

[Lebanizer]

i imagine if a dispensary desperately wanted to promote true tropical varieties, they could invest in growing like 2 huge plants and give out tiny promotional samples with every purchase if buyers are interested. or like a dimebag at a discounted price.
this way they could gauge the interest in their area without a huge loss probably.

Good idea, but that implies that they're really passionate about cannabis and not just in it for the money.

 

[Lolo94]

Oh I am glad they're still around although not so much for myself. I'm able to get by with the sativa dominent hybrids available. I am glad for those who may truly need it medically or those who have never experienced a good pure Sativa high.

I've long complained that there isn't the right emphasis on the legal market. To much emphasis on making money but not enough on the full range of medicinal value this plant offers. I don't know if that's what motivates these people preserving the old strains or if it's just a love of Sativas, it doesn't really matter in the end though it's just good they're out there doing what they do.

Aren't there available sativa dominant strains that are energetic and available at the dispensaries in California? I haven't been to a dispensary in quite a while but I often see them advertising Durban and various haze hybrids.
In the medical days (pre full legalization) in California, one Bay area dispensary had offered sativa clones and real sativa seeds for sale. I remember seeing haze and Willie Nelson clones and seeds from Billy Goat genetics such as Bangkok Betty and Chocolate Thai advertised. Unfortunately, by the time I got there the aforementioned strains were gone. They didn't update their seed and clone list regularly and what shown as there (at least what I wanted) was always sold out. At one point, I got so frustrated going there just to purchase select clones and getting skunked that I complained to a manager about their lack of good motivating weed. Crazy enough, I was given (at no charge) a personal (not offered for sale) cut of Red Congolese. I ended up making nice energetic hybrids crossed to a pure sativa with it. I recently gave away and traded most of these hybrids . Hopefully, they are comercially viable enough that the growers I gave them to can spread the seeds and buds around.

 

[CosmicGiggle]

Why not just turn skinny ugly buds into keif, and sell it as a new and novel item? First 'sativas' out to the public could be JUST sativa and with fair pricing for the extra time and effort. Take the 'pretty' out of the equation. Or...educate the public. Make a big thing out of the 'ugly buds blast', it'll catch on. ESPECIALLY if there's a 'warning' on the label.

I don't believe that the dispensaries want to sell strong 'sativa'. It isn't in their interest to put people into noids where consumers think they need to go to an emergency room.

So right Nanny and others! I just had my 1st experience with dispensary (THCA) weed last week. I'm not in a legal state and between grows. Ordered 4 mostly Sativa strains (flowers) and was very pleasantly surprised at the quality of the high.

Of course it was not at all like the Sativa's of my youth, but it is now medicine and was very good at 'taking the edge' off with no couch lock or come down, much like what I've gotten from alla the many Sativa strains I've grown from purchased seeds myself over the years.

I'm sure there will be a niche market for antique Sativas but where will they come from?
As far as I can tell, that ride has come and gone as no one has reported that type of reproducible high in years,

 

[Odius1]

Why not just turn skinny ugly buds into keif, and sell it as a new and novel item? First 'sativas' out to the public could be JUST sativa and with fair pricing for the extra time and effort. Take the 'pretty' out of the equation. Or...educate the public. Make a big thing out of the 'ugly buds blast', it'll catch on. ESPECIALLY if there's a 'warning' on the label.

I don't believe that the dispensaries want to sell strong 'sativa'. It isn't in their interest to put people into noids where consumers think they need to go to an emergency room.

New niche market... Ugly buds!

 

[zaprjaques]

Good idea, but that implies that they're really passionate about cannabis and not just in it for the money.

i remember the days when all that mattered was that I was passionate about any type of 20 bag i managed to score. and it didn't have to be cambodian breast milk sold by a midget holding a ballon while munching on a sugar cookie type of weed.

 

[Lolo94]

I think there should be an ugly bud contest, and only after the winner is declared, a chemical analysis should be done showing Thc %, terpenes ect.. There needs to be a public decorrelation of looks, Thc %, and effect.
I'm often perplexed by the term strong weed. A friend who is an avid strong narcotic weed smoker once complained to me that the weed I gave him was a little weak because he smoked it early evening and it kept him up past midnight. He said with his strong strains, he would have been out in a couple hours.

 

[zaprjaques]

 

[Wolverine97]

I dont think its a sativa "scam" as much as its a sativa "hybrid" kind of situation. I mean even popular strains like blue dream and sour diesel are merely indicas with just enough sativa to make them more appealing to patients looking for high potency strains with more of a sativa buzz.

I discussed this with a dispensary owner in Colorado when i told him that i grew sativa landraces. He said the reality is people want pretty weed when they go to a dispensary and that pure sativa bud wouldn't be able to compete with modern hybrids because the finished product didn't look as appealing to the eye and they wouldn't be able to make near as much profit selling it so the cost of dealing with it would become prohibitive. You calculate that with the fact that most sativas are a much bigger pain in the ass to grow and you have a real conflict of interest.

A really sad conversation to have when you find out just how for-profit this industry really is. These landraces have just as much potential as modern hybrids in helping patients with things like pain management and especially depression. I think you will find a day when these types of bud are much more available to the public but thats still a long way off

I disagree on the Blue Dream and Sour comment, especially the Blue Dream. If you've had the real Blue Dream (Santa Cruz cut), it's very, very sativa, with not too much indica in it. I have several growing right now, the leaves are very, very narrow, and it's a big stretchy plant. The effect is uplifting, and dreamy, very anti anxiety. I haven't had it in a while, and am very excited to have it again.

Mostly same goes for the Sour... but that one has so many versions it's hard to ensure we're talking about the same plant. But the original Sour Diesel (the lemon head candy flavored one) is very "up" in effect, and is definitely mostly sativa. I'm running the ECSD, and another "Sour Diesel" right now, and the ECSD in particular is a lanky stretchy monster of a plant.

Now, neither of those are "pure" NLD/Sativa's, but they're on the upper end of the sativa hybrid spectrum, for sure.

 

[RobFromTX]

I disagree on the Blue Dream and Sour comment, especially the Blue Dream. If you've had the real Blue Dream (Santa Cruz cut), it's very, very sativa, with not too much indica in it. I have several growing right now, the leaves are very, very narrow, and it's a big stretchy plant. The effect is uplifting, and dreamy, very anti anxiety. I haven't had it in a while, and am very excited to have it again.

Mostly same goes for the Sour... but that one has so many versions it's hard to ensure we're talking about the same plant. But the original Sour Diesel (the lemon head candy flavored one) is very "up" in effect, and is definitely mostly sativa. I'm running the ECSD, and another "Sour Diesel" right now, and the ECSD in particular is a lanky stretchy monster of a plant.

Now, neither of those are "pure" NLD/Sativa's, but they're on the upper end of the sativa hybrid spectrum, for sure.

This is the blue dream going around where im at. Not sure if its from California or Colorado because we get a lot of both but its a far cry from the sativa I grow. Now don't get me wrong where i live beggars cant be choosers especially when you're out of your own head stash. But this stuff is loaded with indica and it shows

 

[Worldatlas]

. I wasn't really so concerned with judging by looks back then though, more by smell and effect. I can't imagine someone passing on some of that bud because it wasn't purple or frosty enough. If I did I would tell them they were being foolish and didn't know what they were missing.

Depending on the place of origin.....those bricks once ya got into the middle were like cob cured buds if i remember right it was like the compacted flowers still cured inside the brick. Another awesome bonus from those was the PLETHORA of diff seeds one would get.....Ive seen everything from pea sized all black seeds to the USMC tiger stripe pattern almost on seeds. Truly miss those bricks!

 

[Wolverine97]

This is the blue dream going around where im at. Not sure if its from California or Colorado because we get a lot of both but its a far cry from the sativa I grow. Now don't get me wrong where i live beggars cant be choosers especially when you're out of your own head stash. But this stuff is loaded with indica and it shows

That looks like one of the indica versions that goes around. That's what most of the big producers run, but the real one is night and day to that. I'll try to dig up some pics... my current plants are still in veg. But I'll post those too, standby.

What's it taste like?

 

[Wolverine97]

Check out these threads on Blue Dream (Santa Cruz).

(((Blue 😴 Dream)))

Starting a log to chart the growth of this Santa Cruz Blue Dream

www.icmag.com

The one and only….Blue Dream

Straight out of Santa Cruz, this isn’t the dark heart nursery cut or an HSO seed pop. The real blue dream ladies and gentlemen

www.icmag.com

 

[Wolverine97]

This one needed a transplant last weekend, getting done today, but she's a bit pale.

Pressing I made... still looking through older pics.