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Smokey Ramone

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Has anyone experimented with using an inert gas to store buds? I've got a can of Bloxygen - straight argon gas - for storing paint, it's heavier than air and displaces the oxygen in the can. There are some wine savers on Amazon which are an argon/co2/nitrogen blend to do the same with unfinished bottles of wine to keep them from oxidizing. Any thoughts?
 
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Haven't tried it, but I suspect using an inert atmosphere like Nitrogen (that's commonly used in the food industry) would help to prolong the shelf life.
 
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CosmicGiggle

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This is pretty old school but what I do is wrap the buds in a paper bag and put them in a glass jar with a tea candle on top of the bag, light the candle and tightly close the lid.

The candle quickly burns out as soon as it's used up alla the oxygen in the jar and the paper protects the buds from any soot.

It doesn't get any easier or cheaper than this and can be repeated every time you need to remove some buds. ;)
 
troutman

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CosmicGiggle said:
This is pretty old school but what I do is wrap the buds in a paper bag and put them in a glass jar with a tea candle on top of the bag, light the candle and tightly close the lid.

The candle quickly burns out as soon as it's used up alla the oxygen in the jar and the paper protects the buds from any soot.

It doesn't get any easier or cheaper than this and can be repeated every time you need to remove some buds. ;)
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Would be much safer to use oxygen absorbers. ;)

Look online for sources and below is just one source for them.
It may be possible to get them for less money elsewhere so do
your research.

When used with proper packaging and sealing, the oxygen in the packaging is greatly reduced. Our absorbers bring the oxygen level down reliably to .01% or less.
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https://www.sorbentsystems.com/o2absorbers.html
 
troutman

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After doing some research it seems the main compound in oxygen absorbers is a black iron oxide compound called Magnetite (Fe3O4).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_scavenger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetite

It reacts with reacts with oxygen to produce red oxide Hematite (Fe2O3) which is basically rust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hematite

They sell Magnetite Powder 500g (ferrous-ferric Oxide Fe3o4) online on places like Ebay and Amazon for cheap. ;)

I'll have to do more research so don't quote me just yet. :laughing:

Pure oxygen and heated steel wool experiment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkE1uVjrY0w

Chemistry lesson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0fzE0xR5xc
 
Cvh

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troutman said:
After doing some research it seems the main compound in oxygen absorbers is a black iron oxide compound called Magnetite (Fe3O4).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_scavenger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetite

It reacts with reacts with oxygen to produce red oxide Hematite (Fe2O3) which is basically rust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hematite

They sell Magnetite Powder 500g (ferrous-ferric Oxide Fe3o4) online on places like Ebay and Amazon for cheap. ;)

I'll have to do more research so don't quote me just yet. :laughing:

Pure oxygen and heated steel wool experiment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkE1uVjrY0w

Chemistry lesson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0fzE0xR5xc
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Very interesting Troutman. I wonder why these O2 absorbers aren't sold alongside those Boveda moisture packs.

Great job also on figuring out what's inside these packs.
Combined with some stoner creativity we should be able to make our packs for nickels. (How about an old film canister with holes poked into the lid filled with this magnetite? Makes it reusable too.)
 
troutman

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Cvh said:
Very interesting Troutman. I wonder why these O2 absorbers aren't sold alongside those Boveda moisture packs.

Great job also on figuring out what's inside these packs.
Combined with some stoner creativity we should be able to make our packs for nickels. (How about an old film canister with holes poked into the lid filled with this magnetite? Makes it reusable too.)
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You can get empty fabric pouches and fill them up I guess.

CosmicGiggle can use old socks to fill up. :woohoo:
 
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CosmicGiggle

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troutman said:
When your buds burn don't cry to me. :hide:
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Been doing this for 20yrs., I like to follow the KISS principle whenever possible, it's an old technique I learned as a lab tech and as far as I know alla the hospitals are still standing! :biggrin:
 
troutman

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What are Oxygen Absorbers?

For most products, an admixture of iron powder, sodium and activated carbon (charcoal) has proven quite effective.
Iron powder is the primary component, while sodium acts as an activator, causing the iron particles to rust, effectively
reducing the oxygen level in the surrounding atmosphere to approximately 0.01% when used appropriately.

How Oxygen Absorbers Work:

When an oxygen absorber is removed from its protective packaging, the moisture in the surrounding atmosphere
begins to mingle with the iron particles inside of the Oxygen Absorber sachet. As the oxygen molecules from the
moisture interact with the iron (Fe) particles, rust begins to develop. Typically, there must be at least 65% relative
humidity in the surrounding atmosphere before the rusting process can begin. To remedy this dilemma, sodium is
added to the mixture. The sodium acts as a catalyst, or activator, causing the iron powder to rust even with low
relative humidity. With the conversion of iron and oxygen into a single iron oxide substance, the presence of oxygen
in the surrounding atmosphere is dramatically reduced.

Source:

https://www.sorbentsystems.com/Oxyge...rber_Facts.pdf


It makes sense that without water iron won't rust very fast. Luckily, salt (sodium chloride) isn't hard to find.
 
Cvh

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troutman any ideas on what can be use that off gasses Co2? Preferable something that may already be present in the kitchen cabinet and is non-harmful?

I think that maybe a combination of Oxygen absorbers and a Co2 atmosphere may give the best preservation results.
 
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