Grape punch...problem?

[Sleepy]

Hi,
Grape Punch in soil. 400W HPS.

Mid-flower. Soil i'm using is mixed by the garden shop, they won't tell me what's in it...last feed was 2 weeks ago...been giving R/O water since then.
soil pH 6.5. it shows best in the last pic. i'll try to put up a better pic later...

Leaves seem to be "rusting" in the veins. none of the other 7 plants in soil are doing this. any ideas?
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[Guest]

Hi Sleepy,

I have a Heavy Duty Fruity in early veg with the same problem. Gave it dose of micro-nutes last night and she looks a little better today. Verdicts still out though. Another day or two will tell.

 

[Guest]

Soil i'm using is mixed by the garden shop, they won't tell me what's in it ]

won't tell you whats in it? is there something magic about their dirt? Thats the sillyest thing I've read all day. I'd steer clear of folks like that, and mix your own so you KNOW what your plants are in. No idea about the rusty veins... never seen that. Lookin purdy resinous though .
peace,
~gm

 

[Sleepy]

Hi, goldmember!!!

yeah, its pretty wierd. i never minded, because it has great drainage, and everything i've put in this soil (MJ,tomato, pepper, all kinds of flowers...etc...) just take off and do very well in it.

maybe this plant is using up the nutes in the soil and needs a feeding??

peace.

 

[Guest]

you could always take a cutting off it and play mad scientist and do a little experimenting
I'm wondering what % of seeds are defects... err like retarded ya know?
Say you start 100 seeds...
Assume you get 50 females
out of those 50... 5 prospective mothers
45 girls left... 2 of'm look a bit strange, yet they've all been given the exact same conditions... maybe rusty veins, maybe slow growth.. whatever
Are these 2 oddballs the "retards" of the bunch?
Was the breeder smokin' crack while pollinating his 2 finest ladies and now we have a generation of "crack baby seeds"?
Its a mystery.. like which came fisrt.. the chicken or the egg...
Im baked, and I'm rambling... and I gotta go now.
peace,
~gm

I like this new forum...

 

[Bonzo]

HOLY CRAP, THATS F*%KIN' FUNNY GM, i read it 2 minutes ago and im still laughin' whoooo man!!! It is a good point though.........

peace, bONZ :friends:

 

[Bonzo]

Hey Sleepy please excuse me for not sayin' hi that is kinda strange they wont tell you whats in thier mix, what does BOG use?

peace, bONZ :friends:

 

[Sleepy]

more/better pix...

more/better pix...

here's a couple of better pictures.
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[Kenny Lingus]

I'd think she's a bit overfed and pH-stressed. She is a little to glossy-dark-green for my preference... Probably some build-up of salts there too. (I had some similar issue when using Canna Terra Flores for the first time.)

I suggest a real good flush/leach, adjusting the pH and then just keep an eye on her for the next two days.
-Could be an idea getting them trace elements into the mediuim aswell. Mg-deficiencies have occoured late in bloom at occasions... (I'm not too consistent when mixing my soil you see

Keep us posted then Sleepy

 

[Sleepy]

thanks, Kenny!!

i've been giving straight R/O water for a while...i'll give her a good flush.

 

[BushyOldGrower]

LOL, the breeder was baked!! Well at least I admit it...

Ah, yeah kenny a bit burned but I am not the best on the deficiencies. Could be iron or mg but doesnt look like mg deficiency to me.

Smoked some ECSD this morning with Mrs. BOG then read this and got a laugh from Goldmember...he must be smoking something good too.

Really now can the breeder be blamed for a couple bad bitches out of a bunch though? My contention is that seeds are imperfect by definition and that never are 100% perfect and of the best phenotype. That would be an ideal hard to accomplish as I have never seen seeds like that.

Some of the SB2 plants were just crappy with wilted looking leaves but the SB3 appears to have few of those if any so far. BOG

 

[guest3854]

Im with Goldmember , "won't tell ya what's in tha soil" is bullshit .
I agree with Kenny , over fertilized with ph imbalance .
Looks like possibly Manganese(mn) toxic. Desciption :"Young newer growth develops chlorotic dark orange to rusty brown moltting on leaves . tissue shows on young leaves before progressing to older leaves . Toxcity is compounded by low humitity . The additional traspiration causes more manganese to be drawn into foliage . An excess of mn causes a deficientcy of iron and zinc.
Did tha Toxic signs start with tha newer , or older growth ? Hope any of this helps ya .

 

[Sleepy]

BOG, i was not blaming anyone. my fault completely...

steel, yes you & kenny are correct. pH too high, and overfert. It started with the older growth, from the bottom up.

plant has been flushed and is recovering...

the rest of this plant's grow can be followed by clicking on the following link:

Grape Punch-Soil

Thanks for all of your inputs!